Robert Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 Dorada was incredible in front of a shit crowd who didn't deserve that performance but the Negro trios match was amazing. They started out 100mph, sped up, did everything... and kept going. My favorite match so far this year. This was that yearly CMLL show where everything happens to set up the rest of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I'm all in on that trios too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 It's so weird to see CMLL utilizing the rare pro wrestling concept known as "booking." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecubsfan Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 so H2L so far is 1) ? (probably women) 2) ? 3) Mascara Dorada, Dragon Lee, Mistico, Valiente vs Kamaitachi, Rajin, Fuijin, Okumura 4) Rush versus Maximo, hair vs hair 5) ? (probably Caristico + amigos) 6) Volador versus Negro Casas, hair vs hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I'm not going to nitpick that card by any means, but I probably would have preferred some differentiation between the two big matches, be Rush/Mascara vs Maximo/Marco mask/hair vs hair/hair or Rush vs Maximo for the heavyweight title. Cubs, any idea when's Shocker coming back? Are they ever going to do anything with the tag titles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Shocker had surgery so ? Pencil in porky, panther, neibla in some match. It would be nice if one of the matches was puma/tiger v gmjr/t.panther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecubsfan Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Shocker said he'll back May, if I recall right. There's been no mention of the tag titles, though they sure would look nice in the Maximo/Marco vs Mascara/Rush feud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I agree w Matt that Rush should beat Maximo for the heavyweight title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Another crazy question. Given how quickly this hair match came about and the fact that they could have drawn it out more and quite often do, are we sure this isn't like the Sombra situation where CMLL knew something we didn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share Posted February 25, 2016 Well the last time CMLL randomly broke up a stable & had a guy expected to win a match end up losing it we all know what happened. So if Rush loses, I guess so. (I'm thinking no this time though for a couple reasons) Honestly it won't matter what they add to the card, I already love it just based on those 3 matches and knowing the inevitable Caristico match is getting on there. Volador Jr./Rush seems like a lock for the Anniversary Show, maybe Rush goes out the same way Sombra did. I'm not sure that singles hair match allows CMLL to charge the prices they want though so I wonder if Caristico/Atlantis somehow get mixed in. CMLL seems comfortable knowing they can name their price if Atlantis is on top and I don't think Caristico came back to not be involved in a major way at the Anniversary *. (* -> Unless ELITE ends up running their own major show but right now that doesn't look possible.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 1.) I really like watching Ultimo Guerrero and Rey Bucanero tag. They obviously have a lot of fun and do a bunch of things that they were doing back in 2001. I bet I have more nostalgia for it than people who watched them team year after year after year. 2.) I wish I could go back in time and keep Dr. Wagner, Jr. away from Caristico so he didn't pick up his bad habits of playing to the crowd instead of selling while getting pummeled by multiple people during a beat down. 3.) How can you not feel bad for Mistico II? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Dragn Lee vs Kamaitachi was as crazy and spectacular as expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 It was fucking bananas, once again. Great show from top to bottom. Even the new guys looked good out there with Halcon and Bala. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Dos Leyendas will be $10 ippv. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Bringing out all the masked rudos (including Ripper/Reaper and his snake) to promote some play(?) with a ghost, for a bunch of photo ops, was the weirdest thing I saw all day. The rudo team of Kamaitachi, Cavernario, and Negro Casas is the best thing possible, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIK Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I'm going through and watching all of the Dragon Lee vs Kamaitachi singles matches, are there any tags involving the 2 opposite each other I should really go out of my way to see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Yes, but cant think of dates off hand. They will be on opposite sides of a mex vs japan atomicos on Dos Leyendas next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 I had a blast watching tonight. You can count on CMLL for good wrestling most of the time but when they combine good wrestling with stuff actually happening it makes for a much better overall product. Even the crappiest match tonight had something happen at the end which sets up next week and is a fresh match-up with lots of possible outcomes (UG vs Ciber).My favorite match was Volador/Negro. Negro is an absolute legend. What 56 year old tries a super frankensteiner and takes a sunset flip bomb to the floor? THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU OLD MAN? Loved the shots of both Casas' daughter & Volador's son. Mexico vs Japan was a good match & Rush/Maximo told a great story. They really put Rush over huge not even giving Maximo a win (Rush got DQ'ed in first fall). That's rare for CMLL as even in matches like Casas/Parka or Maximo/Kamaitachi where the outcome is never in doubt they tend to do the generic 50/50 match going 3 falls.The only disapointment I'd say was the opener where they really worked an awful match considering what their goal was & then Soberano came out of the match injured. I wouldn't say the work was bad, although it wasn't close to great. It was just the total package came off bad as they went too long which annoyed the crowd & were doing nearfalls/big drama selling in a match that just needed to be in and out with lots of exciting spots.Things are happening in Mexico. If you follow the news in addition to just the results you better strap yourselves in for an exciting upcoming week or two. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Two new podcast episodes discussing cmll dos leyendas, elite and aaa news and more. Dr lucha http://tinyurl.com/winter27 fredo esparza http://tinyurl.com/winter28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 CMLL Puebla was excellent tonight, capped off by a very good Caristico/Ultimo Guerrero main event in front of a jam packed crowd. I thought it was the best the Japanese kids have looked so far & they even built up a Mascara Dorada/Cavernario match for next Monday or 4/3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 We did an interview with Hechicero about doing Fantasticamania earlier this year. https://winterpalacepodcast.squarespace.com/interviews/2016/3/22/hechicero-in-japan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Caristico vs Ultimo Guerrero was great! If it happened in LU, I think people would be going nuts over it with the dives and the big moves. The finish was kinda surprising but I think I get what they were going for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 I wouldn't go that far. Seemed like pretty standard "big match" stuff from both of them. Anything stand out in particular for you? That is to say, it was a very good match but I wouldn't put it up with the best of LU. I liked Caristico's match against Rush better than this and preferred UG's hair match vs. Escorpion as well. Thanks for the link! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 I meant more in the sense that very few people talk about CMLL on here so it's a really good match that will likely be forgotten in comparison to LU. I wouldn't say this is a MOTYC or anything but I think part of why I enjoyed it so much is that it's been a long time since they've had a singles match so all their standard big match stuff felt fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Solar / BT v Casas / BP from Elite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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