Dolfan in NYC Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Okay, so it's now Phase 6... Let's see where this year takes us.
Curt McGirt Posted January 2 Posted January 2 I'm gonna pretend Dolfan saw my post at the very end of the last thread and that's why he locked it. 1 3
Technico Support Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Cyclops straight shirt-cockin’ it, Winnie the Pooh/Donald Duck style. 5
Casey Posted January 6 Posted January 6 X-Men HD trailer will be posted online soon, if the past few weeks are anything to go by. Like clockwork, the last(?) teaser for Doomsday has leaked. Spoiler It’s Shuri and King M’Baku meeting The Thing in the desert. Some shots of Namor and Namora, too.
Log Posted January 6 Posted January 6 So, are the X-Men debuting in Doomsday or is there something before that?
Casey Posted January 6 Posted January 6 19 minutes ago, Log said: So, are the X-Men debuting in Doomsday or is there something before that? It’s just the Fox X-Men. Nobody will get a whiff of the actual MCU X-Men until after Secret Wars. 1
JLSigman Posted January 6 Posted January 6 27 minutes ago, Log said: So, are the X-Men debuting in Doomsday or is there something before that? I seriously doubt it'll be more than what's in the trailer - they'll be on screen long enough for their universe to die.
Matt D Posted January 6 Posted January 6 My gut still says that the pandemic is what did Marvel in. It created delays on everything and killed momentum at the worst time for them. Phase... what? IV? was about the grief and trauma over the blip (that's what it was called right?) and the events of Endgame and that could have possibly hit and resonated with people thinking about the pandemic, but the movies weren't quite aimed that way and no one wanted that in the early days of the pandemic. Everything just took too long. Thunderbolts came together but not as well as if it came out a year or two earlier. They had a rebuilding phase introducing new and legacy characters and it took twice as long as it needed to without enough "Avengers" at the end. We're four years off of Hawkeye and Ms. Marvel now with no Young Avengers movie. Obviously Kang was a huge misstep but everything about Doomsday feels like a panic hotshot. Like reforming the NWO in January 1999. 2 1
Technico Support Posted January 6 Posted January 6 2 hours ago, Matt D said: My gut still says that the pandemic is what did Marvel in. It created delays on everything and killed momentum at the worst time for them. Phase... what? IV? was about the grief and trauma over the blip (that's what it was called right?) and the events of Endgame and that could have possibly hit and resonated with people thinking about the pandemic, but the movies weren't quite aimed that way and no one wanted that in the early days of the pandemic. Everything just took too long. Thunderbolts came together but not as well as if it came out a year or two earlier. They had a rebuilding phase introducing new and legacy characters and it took twice as long as it needed to without enough "Avengers" at the end. We're four years off of Hawkeye and Ms. Marvel now with no Young Avengers movie. Obviously Kang was a huge misstep but everything about Doomsday feels like a panic hotshot. Like reforming the NWO in January 1999. I think it's a mix of, as you mentioned, timing, along with overkill, films that were not great, and too many new characters introduced that nobody cared about as much as the original three. The volume of shows on Disney+ was untenable. I don't even have the service anymore and couldn't give a shit about whatever twee bullshit Wonder Man is going to be -- when a genre starts satirizing itself, it's in trouble. For films that were just average to actively bad and/or featuring characters nobody cared about, we got Shang Chi, Eternals, Ant Man 3, that last Thor movie, Black Panther 2, The Marvels, Captain America: Brave New World, probably more I'm not thinking about. Just entirely too much content and not enough of it was must-see. I really enjoyed Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four, but that just feels like somebody at Disney said "we have to fix this shit." Speaking of timing, Iron Heart should have been timed to release shortly after Black Panther 2, not three years later. 1
Matt D Posted January 6 Posted January 6 6 minutes ago, Technico Support said: must-see A bunch of inconsequential stingers too, which, obviously movies should stand on their own and be of quality, etc., etc., but they created an environment of secret debuts and hints to future movies, etc., right at a time where that sort of thing was so huge for the zeitgeist (and it only got huger; think of all the Wyatt stuff) and either we got bits which were never paid off (Starfox/Pip and Hercules) or stuff that didn't matter. No idea if we'll watch Wonder Man or not, but we only got 1-2 episodes into Ironheart and skipped the Wakanda show. 1
Casey Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I think I’m a different breed because I loved it when Marvel was just shitting out content all the time. Very few movies/shows that I actually didn’t like. For example, Shang Chi is genuinely one of my favorite Marvel movies. 5
Log Posted January 7 Posted January 7 6 hours ago, Matt D said: A bunch of inconsequential stingers too, which, obviously movies should stand on their own and be of quality, etc., etc., but they created an environment of secret debuts and hints to future movies, etc., right at a time where that sort of thing was so huge for the zeitgeist (and it only got huger; think of all the Wyatt stuff) and either we got bits which were never paid off (Starfox/Pip and Hercules) or stuff that didn't matter. No idea if we'll watch Wonder Man or not, but we only got 1-2 episodes into Ironheart and skipped the Wakanda show. All the movies before Endgame had this feeling that they were all leading up to something. So, even when the movie wasn’t the best, there was still this forward momentum. For me, I fell off when after three or four series and a handful of movies, it just didn’t seem like it was going anywhere. It was touched on, but I really thing the stuff with Jonathan Majors hurt as much as anything. They were clearly leading up to something stuff with Kang and had to totally change course. Thinking about it now, I also think Boseman’s death probably threw things off, too. Seemed like Black Panther might take the Iron Man spot in the next phases 3
odessasteps Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Of all characters, replacing Kang should have been easy. He’s three other characters before you even get to his multiverse counterparts. And Majors is not so big a star he couldn’t be replaced. Cast a well-known and ,if needed, likable to the general public actor to replace him. just seems like an endless series of mediocre to awful projects for years now,
dogwelder Posted January 7 Posted January 7 So there's an unconfirmed rumor that Avengers: Doomsday will be 3 hours and 45 minutes long. If that's the case I'm just going to wait for it to stream on Disney+ because there's no way I could watch something that long without needing to hit the restroom at least once. 1
JonnyLaw Posted January 7 Posted January 7 16 hours ago, Casey said: I think I’m a different breed because I loved it when Marvel was just shitting out content all the time. Very few movies/shows that I actually didn’t like. For example, Shang Chi is genuinely one of my favorite Marvel movies. I’m in this boat. Phase 4 was clearly resetting the table, and while the moves weren’t amazing, neither was the early Thor/IM3/Thor 2 that was the most comparable part of the early phases. Shang-Chi was good, The Marvels was pretty fun, WandaVision and a lot of the early TV stuff was all good, but between the pandemic affecting the timing and coming down from the high of Endgame, I don’t think they were ever given a fair chance. 2 2
Zimbra Posted January 12 Posted January 12 The Blade movie is apparently dead again. Long live the Blade movie. 1 1
odessasteps Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Been struggling to think who Denzel would play, if it’s Panther related. It has to be someone of prominence, presumably.
Casey Posted January 12 Posted January 12 (edited) I don't know how they'd do it or what the story looks like post-Secret Wars, but there's probably something there with Bashenga (Denzel) being a spiritual ancestor guide for a newly crowned Black Panther in T'Challa II (Damson Idris). You could probably take certain elements from the original Black Panther 2 script with the Ritual of Eight and change it up or something like that. I'm not a writer so I don't know how you get Shuri out of the Black Panther mantle, if it's even a thing after Battleworld/Secret Wars, etc. I'm just arm chair booking here. With Sony rumored to be more open for Marvel using the characters they own, maybe Coogler could actually get Kraven the Hunter this time around. Edited January 12 by Casey
odessasteps Posted January 12 Posted January 12 If its just a cameo, I could see him playing some kind of Original Black Panther from "olden times" in a vision quest like the scrapped scene mentioned above (dont remember if they did that in BP 1).
The Natural Posted January 13 Posted January 13 19 hours ago, Zimbra said: The Blade movie is apparently dead again. Long live the Blade movie. Wesley Snipes is iconic as Blade. QFT. 1
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