Cobra Commander Posted January 1 Posted January 1 would it make too many of you feel old if I mentioned that there's probably grandparents these days young enough to have been Rock'n'Wrestling WWF fans in the mid-80s? (situations where nobody had their kids in their teens and everything)
SirSmUgly Posted January 1 Posted January 1 7 hours ago, Ziggy said: ECW had atleast 3 that come to mind in the 90s. I think the increase ticket prices will weed some out I don't think so. I think the type of fan open to paying exorbitant prices to go to these shows will be the fans most likely to try and get themselves over like this. The people weeded out by increased prices will be families. 2
Cobra Commander Posted January 1 Posted January 1 I suspect that a drop in WWE ticket sales would be more likely cause "cutting fat" (firing people and cutting costs) instead of cutting prices 1
odessasteps Posted January 1 Posted January 1 I mean, Ron Fuller’s grandmother used to stick heels with hat pins, because Roy didn’t smarten her up. 1
Peck Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Brock Lesnar Guy popped in to my Instagram algo awhile back and from what I remember, he would just buy tickets either the day of the show(or sometimes right when the show started) at the venue box office, usually when they released production holds, etc. There were definitely times he'd travel to a venue and be shut out too.
AxB Posted January 1 Posted January 1 10 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said: would it make too many of you feel old if I mentioned that there's probably grandparents these days young enough to have been Rock'n'Wrestling WWF fans in the mid-80s? (situations where nobody had their kids in their teens and everything) I'm a Grandparent, and I was watching wrestling in the 80s. World of Sport, before it got cancelled. Now admittedly my Grandaughter is only 4 months old, but still. It counts. 1
odessasteps Posted January 1 Posted January 1 11 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said: would it make too many of you feel old if I mentioned that there's probably grandparents these days young enough to have been Rock'n'Wrestling WWF fans in the mid-80s? (situations where nobody had their kids in their teens and everything) Rock and Roll Express Teeny bopper fans are likely grandmothers now.
Cobra Commander Posted January 1 Posted January 1 meanwhile in the Buff vs Flair/Piper match on the 4hr Piper video, a fan on the hard cam in New Orleans with a sign saying "Flair come mierda pendejo" ("Flair eat shit asshole")... not like anybody in WCW speaks Spanish
SovietShooter Posted January 1 Posted January 1 28 minutes ago, odessasteps said: Rock and Roll Express Teeny bopper fans are likely grandmothers now. I mean, if you were 15 in 1985, that would make you 55 now. If you had a kid at 20, and then the kid also had a child at 20, that grandkid would be 15 right now.
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 1 Posted January 1 We're all getting old. When I started watching wrestling on Saturday mornings and became addicted to it the only way I could learn my history is by going to the video store and renting out all of there NWA/WCW and WWF VHS tapes. Some of them I rented many times. I even begged my parents to buy some of the videos that they'd have on sale in the magazines. They were not cheap. Like $35 for one VHS. 3
The Green Meanie Posted January 1 Posted January 1 1 hour ago, odessasteps said: Would the Front Row, Section D guys be considered super fans or gimmick fans? Same with the Atlanta Boys (Hudson, Prazak, Horton). I have no idea who these people are. Are we supposed to know who this is? It's not a knock on you, more like an example of how egregious this has gotten. Other then Vladmir, Sign Guy, Green Lantern Guy and Simon & his Mom, that's all the ones I know.
Technico Support Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Watch it come out that Brock Lesnar Guy is “retiring” because of an anti-WWE moral stance (Trump, Saudis, Vince, rampant capitalism, holy fuck, take your pick) and then I’ll feel bad for criticizing him. 1
Technico Support Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) Also, just a discussion topic I’ve been kicking around: is WWE’s practice of seemingly only booking for viral moments and memes instead of actual honest to goodness pro wrestling booking going to ruin the next generation of fans and, in turn, pro wrestling? Or am I just pearl clutching the way old folks decried Vince’s “cartoon wrestling” back when my generation was starting out, and it’s not a big deal? Like maybe every generation has their reason WWF/WWE is killing wrestling? Edited January 1 by Technico Support
zendragon Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Is BLG just a guy who goes to lots of shows? or is there more to him?
AxB Posted January 2 Posted January 2 He was in the front row wearing an Affliction shirt with skulls on when Brock Lesnar made his original return to WWE (from UFC), marked out visibly enough that he was used as a close up in a crowd shot, and then decided based on that, that he was now a celebrity wrestling fan. Imagine if the guy who looked aghast when the streak was broken, or Miz girl, or the guy who cried when Punk debuted in AEW, then spent years really obnoxiously pushing themself as a famous person, on the basis of attending wrestling. It's basically that (Izzy Moreno doesn't count, she's an actual wrestler now). 1
Stefanie Sparkleface Posted January 2 Posted January 2 44 minutes ago, Technico Support said: Also, just a discussion topic I’ve been kicking around: is WWE’s practice of seemingly only booking for viral moments and memes instead of actual honest to goodness pro wrestling booking going to ruin the next generation of fans and, in turn, pro wrestling? Or am I just pearl clutching the way old folks decried Vince’s “cartoon wrestling” back when my generation was starting out, and it’s not a big deal? Like maybe every generation has their reason WWF/WWE is killing wrestling? Wrestling magazines have been saying that the WWF has been killing wrestling for 40 years, and before that there was a magazine in 1959 that printed an interview with a fan that said guys like Ricki Starr were killing wrestling (see tweet below). In other words, the cycle continues. 1 1 1
odessasteps Posted January 2 Posted January 2 2 hours ago, The Green Meanie said: I have no idea who these people are. Are we supposed to know who this is? It's not a knock on you, more like an example of how egregious this has gotten. Other then Vladmir, Sign Guy, Green Lantern Guy and Simon & his Mom, that's all the ones I know. Front Row, Section D were the guys who went to JCP shows in mid 80s. Bruce Mitchell, John Hitchcock, etc. heel fans who heckled Dusty. Both very active in early Observers and of course Bruce went on to write for the Torch. Atlanta Guys included Scott Hudson, Dave Prazak, Jon Horton (Craig Johnson). Friends with Joe Pedicino. All ended up in the business. 1
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 2 Posted January 2 There is always that grandma who tried to fight Hulk Hogan that one Nitro in 1997. I believe it was in Knoxville, Tennessee so I am pretty sure she went to wrestling shows going back to when Whitey Caldwell and Ron Wright were feuding. 2
Hamhock Posted January 2 Posted January 2 The crowd at the first house show I ever went to (8/4/84 at the Philadelphia Spectrum) was a perfect blend of old and new: vast age range; tons of traditional fans smattered with that Philly jadedness; a quarter of the venue booing Backlund; three smartasses in the crowd coming in wearing Iron Sheik keffiyeh and getting jeered at; crumpled garbage being thrown at Freddie Blassie for being a biased special referee; Cyndi Lauper showing up with The Freebirds. A little of the old Northeast WWF seediness mixed into Hulkamania. 2
Sublime Posted January 2 Posted January 2 WWEs style won’t kill pro wrestling it might hurt it but it won’t end it. AEW is there as a national brand and the internet will help fans who want more out of it find different stuff. It might become more niche than it already is and might end up hurting WWE but pro wrestling will live on in some way 2 1
Cobra Commander Posted January 2 Posted January 2 (edited) wondering if there's an opening for wrestling to satirize the whole "going to review this" mentality in other sports (inspired by the end of Ole Miss/Georgia) you know 1980s Bill Watts would spend 5 minutes solid on instant replays in the middle of the most boring match on Mid-South that week Edited January 2 by Cobra Commander 1
bobholly138 Posted January 2 Posted January 2 10 hours ago, Cobra Commander said: would it make too many of you feel old if I mentioned that there's probably grandparents these days young enough to have been Rock'n'Wrestling WWF fans in the mid-80s? (situations where nobody had their kids in their teens and everything) got 2 kids old enough to have kids so could be a grandparent and was 9 or 10 when the 80s WWF boom happened.
AxB Posted January 2 Posted January 2 Chris Jericho's AEW deal expired on December 31st 2025, meaning he's a free agent right now. But he's expected to re-debut in WWE as soon as next Monday, on RAW. So perhaps it's time to review his AEW run. He left WCW for the WWF in mid-1999, and was there on and off for basically 20 years. And in that time, he was very good at keeping himself fresh, both with occasional long absences, and with changing up his gimmick and character. Whereas in AEW, he showed up as a veteran, former World Champion who was an arrogant heel, leading a heel stable (the Inner Circle) that included Sammy Guevara and Jake Hager. Once that run was over, his next major run was with him as a veteran, former World Champion who was an arrogant heel, leading a heel stable (The Jericho Appreciation Society) that included Sammy Guevara and Jake Hager. And once that run ended, he ended up in his final gimmick, in which he was a veteran former World Champion leading a heel stable (the Learning Tree), that didn't include Sammy Guevara or Jake Hager. So, perhaps his creative juices dried up at some point. He did have his babyface runs in between those heel runs, his MJF feud where he did the 'MJF forces his prospective opponent to do the 12 labours of Hercules' thing was kind of dull and derivative, but it did get Nick Gage on International TV, having a Nick Gage match. As far as I'm concerned, signing him when AEW was brand new was a great decision. It was an upstart brand that needed names, and his was a big one. His early run as AEW Champion was a lot of fun, and his immediate post-title run in the Pandemic Era had some really good stuff; His willingness to do an encourage goofy comedy spots really helped make the first Stadium Stampede match be as entertaining as it was. But it got to be diminishing returns, after a while. It felt like he was retreading old ground, and especially after Cody Rhodes was gone, the idea of the Jericho vortex did have some legitimacy to it (it kind of did before, but the Codyverse feeling disconnected from the rest of AEW was so much more jarring; Once Cody left, the 'This piece doesn't fit this puzzle'-ness of Jericho still being there was far more noticeable. If he had left AEW at the same time CM Punk did (meaning, right after he wrestled Ospreay in Wembley, All In 2023), there's every chance that AEW fans would look back at his run and think "That was fun, thanks Chris Jericho". But those extra two years really took the bloom off the rose, and kind of tarnished his earlier work in the company too. Still, it's going to be interesting, seeing what WWE does with him. Perhaps he'll be a singles babyface legend, perhaps he'll be an arrogant heel who leads a stable. We'll see. 4
zendragon Posted January 2 Posted January 2 In a similar vein I wonder if JR would go back to WWE as a talking head on the various A&E shows now that Vince is gone (I doubt the would use him for commentary with the exception of maybe a one time thing)
odessasteps Posted January 2 Posted January 2 6 hours ago, Cobra Commander said: wondering if there's an opening for wrestling to satirize the whole "going to review this" mentality in other sports (inspired by the end of Ole Miss/Georgia) you know 1980s Bill Watts would spend 5 minutes solid on instant replays in the middle of the most boring match on Mid-South that week I think something like that happened when Wrestling 2 beat JY.D.
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