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Elsalvajeloco

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On 11/21/2025 at 12:39 PM, Log said:

Hayes was only 36 when he became Doc Hendrix. It's wild that he was in his early thirties when he and Garvin had their run together.

It's wild that when John Tenta did the I AM NOT THE SHARK I AM NOT A FISH I AM NOT AN AVALANCHE IAMMA A MAN promo, he was 33 or 32 about to turn 33. That's way too young to be washed up. Granted, he was still the only passable worker in the Oddities by miles two years later.

18 hours ago, Ramo2653 said:

If you count working for local indies, a lot of folks get started pretty early still in the US. Roxanne Perez debuted at 17 and started training at 13.

Keep me honest ya'll but I'm pretty sure folks start early in Mexico still right?

Nothing is gonna beat Japan. Momo Watanabe is a wily veteran at the age of 25 with 11 years in the business. AZM has 13 months more experience than Momo, and she's 23. Based on their skills, you can very much tell that experience is legit.

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AxB

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Billie Starkz is a 7 year pro, and she's 20 years old.

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HarryArchieGus

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12 hours ago, username said:

FWIW I could see a theoretical situation where Jericho has his last in-ring run with WWE for a year or two and then some time after ends up with some sort of backstage role with AEW. While the two companies aren't "friends" I think people in AEW would get the appeal of him finishing up his career in that fashion with a Hall of Fame induction capper, especially given as it seems like his AEW run has simply run out of gas. I'm not saying it is even likely, but it doesn't feel like some utterly impossible scenario.

In one of his recent podcast interviews TK said something about hoping Jericho could have his last match in AEW (while seemingly acknowledging that he may or may not be back soon), and it further fuelled my thoughts in the direction you mention here. 

 

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JLowe

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14 hours ago, Ramo2653 said:

If you count working for local indies, a lot of folks get started pretty early still in the US. Roxanne Perez debuted at 17 and started training at 13.

Keep me honest ya'll but I'm pretty sure folks start early in Mexico still right?

Nick Wayne and Billie Starkz both started as teens, and weren’t officially signed to AEW until they turned 18 (and graduated from high school in Billie’s case). I think I read where Skye Blue said her high school graduation present was tuition and her mom’s blessing for wrestling school. And they love to mention that Riho started really young (I feel like they said 9 for training and like 12 for actual matches?)

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HarryArchieGus

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20 hours ago, Shartnado said:

I only watched last week's episode of Collision this evening and it was one hell of a show! It was neat seeing 1979 and 1986 Dynamite Kid in the ring against each other a few times during the opener.

Toni Storm went batshit throughout the show and it was glorious! Looking forward to Love Bomb ripping off heads and shitting in handbags for a bloody good time!

The announcers (well, Tony) was trying to get a reaction out of Moxley about the tap out loss and then he was about to piss himself once he finally got it and Mox briefly turned back around and approached him after going off on the Conglomeration.

Build up was just one pesky attempted murder and immolation (or does that mean setting oneself on fire, in that case, not that) but yeah, I'm so there for PAC vs Darby! There's two AEW originals whose paths haven't crossed THAT much, if at all, in singles or tag team matches. Very interesting.

Fletcher vs Sky was awesome, as was Briscoe vs Davis. That had to have been the best looking Froggy Bow (sp?) I have seen! It looked like an actual finisher here!

The main event 8 man was super entertaining as one would expect with that line-up! Did Sammy actually draw a Dirty Sanchez on himself just to look like even more of a douche? That's dedication and it seems to be working. I wonder if Bandido pinning RUSH will lead to more between the two of them? I'd take it!

I loved that show, and for many of the same reasons you mention. Rush-Bandido sounds like a helluva ROHPPV main event to me. Toni Storm running around a show with multiple pop ups or ins is always going to be a huge plus. Totally with you on Darby-Pac. I loved Fletcher-Sky and Briscoe-Davis too. Mark Davis has so much potential. Seeing him on this episode further made me want to see him become some sort of Hansen/Vader/Walter ultimate asskicker role. 

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Ziggy

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13 hours ago, zendragon said:

I wonder if Tenta's size played a role in him having a shorter career. Seems the big guys break down faster.

Knowing Vince McMahon's quirks about certain esthetic things, was probably just him balding so young. I aways thought if he went the Steve Austin route and just cut it completely off then people wouldn't think he was older than he was. Maybe he did start to breakdown sooner but he had good matches with Sting in WCW. The Natural Disasters were a good team in WWF but I think him being in that team made people like at him subconsciously as a tag team guy. If WCW really wanted to they could've pushed in stronger but the Shark gimmick wasn't going to have people look at him as nothing more than fodder for Hogan , especially being in the Dungeon of Doom.

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Shartnado

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2 hours ago, HarryArchieGus said:

I loved that show, and for many of the same reasons you mention. Rush-Bandido sounds like a helluva ROHPPV main event to me. Toni Storm running around a show with multiple pop ups or ins is always going to be a huge plus. Totally with you on Darby-Pac. I loved Fletcher-Sky and Briscoe-Davis too. Mark Davis has so much potential. Seeing him on this episode further made me want to see him become some sort of Hansen/Vader/Walter ultimate asskicker role. 

It was funny when Mox said Davis looked like a 19-year old Arn Anderson! Yeah, Arn/Hansen hybrid with a penchant for Walter-like chopfests and Vader-like power moves. That should have tons of potential, indeed! It was also interesting to hear Davis announced at 240-something lbs. I know he trimmed down at some point, but that sounds rather svelte, if accurate!

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3 hours ago, Ziggy said:

The Natural Disasters were a good team in WWF but I think him being in that team made people like at him subconsciously as a tag team guy. If WCW really wanted to they could've pushed in stronger but the Shark gimmick wasn't going to have people look at him as nothing more than fodder for Hogan , especially being in the Dungeon of Doom.

Seeing how over he got as Golga in the Oddities, it seems like the path for success for him in WCW would've been to be completely repackaged under a mask as a monster. Not a cartoon monster, but a Kane/Abyss style big man that would put dudes thru the mat. Imagine him doing a similar gimmick to that, but with Jim Mitchell as his manager along with Mortis.  Or, as the heavy for Raven in the flock.  

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Niners Fan in CT

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On 11/21/2025 at 1:39 PM, Log said:

Hayes was only 36 when he became Doc Hendrix. It's wild that he was in his early thirties when he and Garvin had their run together.

It's wild that he looked completely washed by like 1990.  

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Shartnado

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39 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

Arn Anderson Yearbook Photo (Unverified, From Classmates.com) : r/SquaredCircle

I'll be damned , there WAS a time when he looked under 40! Never would have believed it. Would be funny if on his 20th birthday he turned into the Arn we all know, overnight. 

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Elsalvajeloco

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21 hours ago, Shartnado said:

I'll be damned , there WAS a time when he looked under 40! Never would have believed it. Would be funny if on his 20th birthday he turned into the Arn we all know, overnight. 

I am guessing it's a Rome, GA thing cause between Pee Wee Anderson and Arn's other buddies who did enhancement work in various territories right around the time Arn started as well, they ALL look like they went from 16 to 34 in the matter of 2-3 years. I watched a Mid South ep today with Pee Wee as a ref for a match (if it wasn't him, it's a guy who resembles him A LOT), and he had some facial hair that puts him between the age of 19 or a 36 year old man on his second wife and multiple kids.

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Jenalysis

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On 11/22/2025 at 12:05 AM, zendragon said:

I wonder if Tenta's size played a role in him having a shorter career. Seems the big guys break down faster.

 

The time in Sumo probably did just as much.   Sumo is even more brutal than pro wrestling.  

 

Several Stardom wrestlers started early, and Emi Sakura trains children- thankfully both Stardom and EMI tend to do it in a very controlled, safe way.  Emi in particular feels like wrestling training should be a positive thing more about self-development at that age than results.

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The Comedian

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On 11/22/2025 at 4:52 PM, SovietShooter said:

Seeing how over he got as Golga in the Oddities, it seems like the path for success for him in WCW would've been to be completely repackaged under a mask as a monster. Not a cartoon monster, but a Kane/Abyss style big man that would put dudes thru the mat. Imagine him doing a similar gimmick to that, but with Jim Mitchell as his manager along with Mortis.  Or, as the heavy for Raven in the flock.  

Another thing about Tenta; by the mid-90's, the whole Quake/Typhoon/Bundy/OMG etc. style of "immovable object" big man was being replaced by big guys like Vader or Bigelow who added athleticism and power moves to their game. Even Yokozuna had that wicked uranage he'd murder people with. 

And someone else mentioned Vince's proclivities. By this point Vince was tired of pretending he had any respect for the overweight.  Bastion Booger was basically Vince's blanket statement on fat people.  He underutilized Bigelow and Vader, embarrassed Mike Shaw and Tenta...hell, he treated Mark Henry like a joke until the dude went on a backstage tirade that finally made him realize,  "Hey, maybe I should repackage this guy as a monster." Of course Vince was never comfortable with strong men being heavy. In Vince's mind, lifting was for body building.  The world's strongest man should look like Hogan, or Tony Atlas, or Warlord, not Ted Arcidi or Bill Kazmaier. 

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On 11/23/2025 at 1:12 PM, Shartnado said:

I'll be damned , there WAS a time when he looked under 40! Never would have believed it. Would be funny if on his 20th birthday he turned into the Arn we all know, overnight. 

I think this was a third grade class photo. 

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Go2Sleep

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Hayes being done at 36 seems crazy in retrospect, but there were a lot of factors that led to guys washing out earlier back then. Ridiculous schedules, excessive steroid use to overcompensate for proper training and injury management, and (by the mid 90s) audiences that had zero interest in nostalgia and only wanted fresh, edgy characters. Even guys like Hogan, Savage, and Piper had a hard time staying relevant into their 40s.

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12 hours ago, Jenalysis said:

 

The time in Sumo probably did just as much.   Sumo is even more brutal than pro wrestling.  

 

Several Stardom wrestlers started early, and Emi Sakura trains children- thankfully both Stardom and EMI tend to do it in a very controlled, safe way.  Emi in particular feels like wrestling training should be a positive thing more about self-development at that age than results.

Emi first started training people pre-Ice Ribbon for Gato Ku Nyann. Gato was originally pro wrestling training for fun and fitness for the students.

Speaking of aging and Sumo, have you seen Takakeisho recently? One year after retirement he looks like a baby. The reverse Arn Anderson.

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Technico Support

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2 hours ago, Go2Sleep said:

Even guys like Hogan, Savage, and Piper had a hard time staying relevant into their 40s

Chalk that up to Vince being a good promoter but not a good booker and not very imaginative, in my opinion.   Hogan had a second career by turning heel in WCW, and Savage got his edge back there as well, and was pretty awesome.  Piper…okay, Piper had awful ideas and could never adapt.  His WCW act was cringeworthy.   Still, what did Vince do with these guys in the early 90s?  Savage and Piper, two of the most diabolical heels of the 80s, were neutered babyface commentators, gleefully cheering on the good guys.  It was awful.  And Hogan’s babyface shtick got tired and Vince couldn’t conceive of anything else he could possibly do with him.  Three legends whose major WWF run lasted all of, what, 5-7 years each?  It’s insane.

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DreamBroken

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Continental Classic participants announced:

GOLD League: Darby Allin, Pac, Kevin Knight, Speedball Mike Bailey, Kyle Fletcher, Kazuchika Okada

BLUE League: Konosuke Takeshita, Jon Moxley, Claudio Castagnoli, Orange Cassidy, Roderick Strong, Mascara Dorada.

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22 minutes ago, DreamBroken said:

Continental Classic participants announced:

GOLD League: Darby Allin, Pac, Kevin Knight, Speedball Mike Bailey, Kyle Fletcher, Kazuchika Okada

BLUE League: Konosuke Takeshita, Jon Moxley, Claudio Castagnoli, Orange Cassidy, Roderick Strong, Mascara Dorada.

Mox vs Dorada is the most interesting match up of the tourny to me.

 

I think finals will be Fletcher vs Takeshita.

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The Natural

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55 minutes ago, DreamBroken said:

Continental Classic participants announced:

GOLD League: Darby Allin, Pac, Kevin Knight, Speedball Mike Bailey, Kyle Fletcher, Kazuchika Okada

BLUE League: Konosuke Takeshita, Jon Moxley, Claudio Castagnoli, Orange Cassidy, Roderick Strong, Mascara Dorada.

Darby Allin vs. PAC, PAC vs. Kazuchika Okada, Kazuchika Okada vs. Darby Allin and Kazuchika Okada vs. Kyle Fletcher are the matches from Gold League to see.

Konosuke Takeshita vs. Claudio Castagnoli and Konosuke Takeshita vs. Roderick Strong in the Blue League.

I'm not feeling the field in all honesty. I was hoping for Bandido and Brody King. Bandido is a huge miss.

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