Dolfan in NYC Posted October 20 Posted October 20 At an airport and realized I had no WWE THREAD! YOU LOVE WWE! Raw tonight! (This song is 100% a reminder of the pandemic for me. Hospital for Special Surgery had a commercial that played every morning with this song. Always knew it was time to log in to work when the commercial came on.) Enjoy your week!
Eivion Posted October 21 Posted October 21 The stuff surrounding the Vision was generally solid. AJ/Dragon Lee vs. Finn/JD was damn good by the end with the crowd getting pretty hot for much of it. Pleased to see Dragon Lee finally win a title. It should have happened long before now, but better late than never. Dom/Rusev was exactly what it needed to be once again. Loved Dom's early attack and the hard wall he hit immediately in the ring. The finish was another little fun clever bit to cheat Rusev once again. Maxxine/Becky may have actually been their best match so far despite the DQ ending. The body of their last match could be argued as more interesting, but I thought the execution of the overall match was better here with no major flubs. Becky using the title for a DQ felt like a moment of both escaping a surprising challenger and frustration coming to a boil. Given the post match attack I assume we get a fourth and final one before the year ends. Stephanie/Roxanne took a surprisingly slow but neat route of building with a good bit of chain wrestling and some nice cheap heel moments from Roxanne & Raquel. The post match was going well too until poor Stephanie crashed and burned on a springboard dive. Always feels weird when the best wrestler in a segment is the one who tanks it. Still a fun match overall, and it was nice to see Nikki pop up again. The battle royal was good fun with plenty solid action and eliminations building off of the various feuds from the past six months of Raw. Punk was pretty nice on commentary as well as he made sure to put over quite a few people. Jey as the winner made sense though I'm still not big on the darkening of Jey. The match with Punk will be interesting. The wrestling was solid-good and so were the stories. Kind of a good episode overall. That said, you can tell they are still flying by the seat of their pants a bit with the turn on Seth. I do like how Heyman may finally be reeling the group in somewhat to follow his lead properly as he made good arguments with his past successes. Becky's speech to Heyman was good and made sense, but I also feel they probably should have gone without it given Becky's current status as a heel. I don't want her to be a face again for a decent while as heel Becky is far more fun. 1
The Natural Posted October 21 Posted October 21 (edited) Jey Uso is a really underwhelming battle royal winner to face CM Punk for the vacant World Heavyweight Championship. I was hoping for AJ Styles as we've never had CM Punk vs. AJ Styles in WWE and the clock's ticking with Styles retiring next year. Seth Rollins must be royally kicking himself for the Coast to Coast Headbutt. Soon as he did it, he was favouring his arm and I knew it was fucked. Edited October 21 by The Natural 1
Steventon Posted October 21 Posted October 21 How on Earth are they positioning Seth as a bayface here? Dude was the top heel in the company all year and got what he deserved surely, and there was no 'turn' or redemption for him pre-Brons attack. They don't need AI because the writing to some of these programs is already slop.
hammerva Posted October 21 Posted October 21 So something is going on involving Sol Ruca as there are "unforseen circumstances" that will be adressed tonight. It did look like she was hurt after the tag match on Smackdown 1
odessasteps Posted October 21 Posted October 21 10 hours ago, Steventon said: How on Earth are they positioning Seth as a bayface here? Dude was the top heel in the company all year and got what he deserved surely, and there was no 'turn' or redemption for him pre-Brons attack. They don't need AI because the writing to some of these programs is already slop. If heels turn on another heel, someone has to be the babyface. I thought we would get babyface Bron eventually redoing the Big Dave turn.
Stefanie Sparkleface Posted October 21 Posted October 21 2 hours ago, hammerva said: So something is going on involving Sol Ruca as there are "unforseen circumstances" that will be adressed tonight. It did look like she was hurt after the tag match on Smackdown [ravensymonegumchewing.gif]
username Posted October 22 Posted October 22 16 hours ago, Steventon said: How on Earth are they positioning Seth as a bayface here? Dude was the top heel in the company all year and got what he deserved surely, and there was no 'turn' or redemption for him pre-Brons attack. For whatever reason a heel group turning on their leader in WWE always seems to lead to the leader now being a face, I don't quite get it either. I still remember Judgement Day deciding they were better off without Edge and taking him out and he 100% had it coming, yet the next week he was all "well I guess I was a jerk for a bit but how dare they".
Ramo2653 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 I'm pretty sure the only guy to not come off as a face in WWE after getting turned on is HHH post Batista but they didn't even try to position HHH as a face then. Whenever Seth comes back and his music starts up and fans are chanting away it won't be hard to make him a face again.
Ramo2653 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 Nice showcase for Leon Slater and we get the tag match set up for Saturday. To use a Bookerism, OTM was looking real jacked tonight. Looking at the card for Saturday, not sure what the difference is rules wise between the NXT NA match and the Tag Title match unless they're doing a pre-tape on the Hardy compound? Not really sure what that Sol/Zaria/Blake segment was. I'm sure the injury threw a wrench into things but just a confusing way to get there. Also why not just go the interim route? Culling/Fatal Influence tag match was the rare heel/heel match and I like that Izzi is starting to wrestle her size. Got a little more juice to the men's title match on Saturday now but this feels like a step in the story.
Eivion Posted October 22 Posted October 22 (edited) Slater/Stacks was a nice showcase for Leon Slater. Wentz/Jasper was decent showcase for Wentz before he was murdered in quick fashion. The segment with Sol was interesting. Pretty telling that they truly don't know where things stand with her injury as of yet. I'm good with another Zaria/Blake match as I thought their last outing was solid and one of Blake's better performances. Still, it definitely felt a bit muddy getting there. Hopefully Sol's injury isn't serious enough she actually haves to give up the gold though I wouldn't be shocked if Blake wins regardless. Axiom/Legacy was good fun while it lasted. The 3 minute timer for Speed matches will always feel just a pinch too short though I think they used it well here. Hank & Tank vs. OTM was short and sweet as a big guys clash Tizzi vs. Jacy/Lainey built into something pretty solid. Jacy in particular felt on point here with everything she did having a good flow. Its also nice to see Izzi gradually relying more on her power. The post match with Tatum getting her heat back on her own by fighting off all of Fatal Influence was good to see. She won't win this weekend, but I would love for her to be the one to dethrone Jacy before year's end. The final segment with Trick & Ricky had some nice barbs thrown with a lot of passion. Still all of it feels so rushed & off. Ricky is good, but they really should have given him more of a journey to the title in NXT so moments like this would ring more full. Right now it feels just a little hollow. The fans like him enough they will still cheer him on, but its still rather clear they prefer Trick the same way they preferred Oba in Ricky's title win. The wrestling was solid, but nothing was particularly blow away here. Women's tag was probably MOTN for me. Story wise they did what they needed to do in setting up the final bits of Halloween Havoc, but only Tatum/Jacy feels like it has a solid bit of momentum. The bits building for what comes after HH are at least interesting enough. I'm particularly hoping they finally pull the trigger on Kelani and turn her. Anyways a decent go home show. Edited October 22 by Eivion
worldcupfever Posted October 22 Posted October 22 9 hours ago, Ramo2653 said: Not really sure what that Sol/Zaria/Blake segment was. I'm sure the injury threw a wrench into things but just a confusing way to get there. Also why not just go the interim route? I think it was to sow distrust between Sol and Zaria. They kept throwing around YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE I CAN TRUST ~ YOU CAN TRUST ME and I think that was the whole goal of the (poorly done) segment.
The Natural Posted October 24 Posted October 24 (edited) WWE's top three most disliked videos of the year: 1. Jey Uso becoming World Champion at WrestleMania 41 (111,000+ dislikes). 2. Jey Uso defeating Austin Theory in under one minute (89,000+ dislikes). 3. Jey Uso winning the RAW Battle Royal (84,000+ dislikes). Edited October 24 by The Natural 1
Gorman Posted October 24 Posted October 24 Does anyone know why? Is there are large group of anti-Jey Uso fans, or is Gunther just smashing the dislike button? 1
The Natural Posted October 24 Posted October 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gorman said: Does anyone know why? Is there are large group of anti-Jey Uso fans, or is Gunther just smashing the dislike button? Good question. It is interesting so many people are voting dislike on the aforementioned YouTube videos. Pushed too hard? Doesn't deserve a big push? Pushed above his actual level? Just a catchphrase and entrance who can't go at the main event level fans would expect? Some wrestlers are better in a tag team and the spilt as solo stars just doesn't work out. The Usos are the former. I don't buy Jey Uso as a main eventer. Edited October 24 by The Natural
Dolfan in NYC Posted October 24 Author Posted October 24 2 hours ago, The Natural said: Good question. It is interesting so many people are voting dislike on the aforementioned YouTube videos. Pushed too hard? Doesn't deserve a big push? Pushed above his actual level? Just a catchphrase and entrance who can't go at the main event level fans would expect? Some wrestlers are better in a tag team and the spilt as solo stars just doesn't work out. The Usos are the former. I don't buy Jey Uso as a main eventer. Or to put it more succinctly: "...and then the bell rang" 1 2
Eivion Posted October 24 Posted October 24 9 hours ago, The Natural said: WWE's top three most disliked videos of the year: 1. Jey Uso becoming World Champion at WrestleMania 41 (111,000+ dislikes). 2. Jey Uso defeating Austin Theory in under one minute (89,000+ dislikes). 3. Jey Uso winning the RAW Battle Royal (84,000+ dislikes). Versus how many likes and views? Not sure how much I would buy much into dislikes given how stupidly over he has been most of the year. 1
Johnny Sorrow Posted October 24 Posted October 24 It sounds like the same thing as when weirdo men's rights dorks would review bomb stuff like Captain Marvel or the Supergirl TV show. 1 1
The Natural Posted October 24 Posted October 24 8 hours ago, Gorman said: Does anyone know why? Is there are large group of anti-Jey Uso fans, or is Gunther just smashing the dislike button? 5 hours ago, The Natural said: Good question. It is interesting so many people are voting dislike on the aforementioned YouTube videos. Pushed too hard? Doesn't deserve a big push? Pushed above his actual level? Just a catchphrase and entrance who can't go at the main event level fans would expect? Some wrestlers are better in a tag team and the spilt as solo stars just doesn't work out. The Usos are the former. I don't buy Jey Uso as a main eventer. 3 hours ago, Dolfan in NYC said: Or to put it more succinctly: "...and then the bell rang" I wish I thought of that. 2 hours ago, Eivion said: Versus how many likes and views? Not sure how much I would buy much into dislikes given how stupidly over he has been most of the year. The likes and views weren't listed, just what I copied over.
Stefanie Sparkleface Posted October 24 Posted October 24 Dislike botting of YouTube videos is pretty common. It's easy to script things to falsify the dislike count and YouTube would be better suited to just remove the like/dislike counter anyway. Say what you will about Jey's work, as tastes are obviously subjective, but if the audiences keep cheering for him and buying his merch they're going to keep pushing him. 3
odessasteps Posted October 24 Posted October 24 I thought YT made it so you couldn’t see dislikes. Or was that a different platform?
Stefanie Sparkleface Posted October 24 Posted October 24 28 minutes ago, odessasteps said: I thought YT made it so you couldn’t see dislikes. Or was that a different platform? The count is removed on YouTube normally but there are browser extensions and APIs to still see the numbers, and people still bot the count because they know the creator can see the amount. 1 1
Eivion Posted October 25 Posted October 25 Skipped the talking in the opening segment. Enjoyed Jimmy beating on Drew. Nakamura/Fenix vs. Tama/Cobb was pretty solid. Tama is looking good with the extra mass. Tama's return alongside the face paint has somehow upped the level of the MFTs. They feel much easier to take serious as a threat at the moment. Tiffany/Kiana got a surprisingly decent amount of time which was well used to let both women shine a decent bit. Its nice to see James finally get in a showcase. She is talented in the ring and as a personality but she doesn't have th ephyscial charisma others for her NXT class do like say Stratton. This felt like the best Stratton performance in a long time. She felt way more confident and comfortable than she usually does. The slower start to show off their athleticism and a bit and build to bigger stuff was nice to see. Nice as the match was it was the post match that told the real story with a beatdown on Tiffany by Giulia and James leading to a save by Jade....before the lariat happened. Jade's beatdown could have been a but mor einspired, but it was nice to see. She has needed to turn heel for a long while now. I assume she finally takes the belt at SNME. Hopefully it their best match with each other yet as the two have managed better match each time. Ilja/Black was good. Digging Black and Zelina's entrance together though it stand to be a minute shorter. Would have preferred Priest not show up until after the match though I did like him waiting to attack until after. Jimmy/Drew was a pretty solid bit of brawling, plunder use, and general action. Pretty solid night of wrestling with every match being arguably worth a watch. Ilja/Black is probably the big match to see though I enjoyed Tiffany/Kiana the most, both for the match itself and post match angle. Story wise everything seemed decent or more as well. Its good to see people showing up even just for smaller backstage bits. Good show. 2
The Natural Posted October 25 Posted October 25 Doug Malo, the wrestler that saved Syko Stu from POS Raja Jackson was security for Smackdown last night. You love to see it. 1
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