Dolfan in NYC Posted October 14 Posted October 14 You don't know how you move me. Deconstruct me. And consume me. I'm all used up... Last Wednesday... A security guard showed he has a better spear than 90% of the roster! (Yeah, I'm not sure TACKLING someone with an open flame and explosive fuel is a great idea.) I'm out of luck... I am starstuck. By something in your eyes... That is keeping my hope alive... On Saturday... Jack Perry was sorry about all that... But I'm sick of myself when I look at you... Something is beautiful and true. In a world that's ugly and a lie, it's hard to even want to try... And I'm beginning to think, Baby you don't know. On tap for this week! Back to Wednesday because, you hate baseball! WrestleDream is this weekend! (This made me look up what Matthew Sweet is up to these days... and oh boy, he ain't doing well. ) Enjoy your week! 2 1
COLETTI Posted October 14 Posted October 14 Rediscovered that song this past summer, absolute BANGER. 1
Technico Support Posted October 14 Posted October 14 1 hour ago, COLETTI said: Rediscovered that song this past summer, absolute BANGER. Hell yeah. Matthew Sweet takes me back. Thanks, @Dolfan in NYC! 3
Curt McGirt Posted October 14 Posted October 14 I love the random, unrelated sounding "numerous lawsuits are filed", like dude it sounds like it's all over with and you end with THAT?
The Green Meanie Posted October 14 Posted October 14 5 hours ago, AxB said: Did he have that account before or after the incident?
Casey Posted October 14 Posted October 14 6 minutes ago, The Green Meanie said: Did he have that account before or after the incident? He’s had it since 2012.
The Green Meanie Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 hour ago, Casey said: He’s had it since 2012. Okay, well there goes my plant theory then.
ExcellenceofAirPollution Posted October 15 Posted October 15 I got quoted in the last thread by @HarryArchieGus when I said "good wrestling, bad crowd" about Dynamite. He then proceeded to go on a rant about people shitting on matches because the crowd is bad.....and I want to make clear that I DID NOT AND DO NOT DO THAT. Bad crowds hurt my enjoyment of a show for sure, and there isn't necessarily a correlation to the quality of matches or the show. I feel like that doesn't even need to be said. Just wanted to clear that up, and if you were just using my Dynamite thoughts as a springboard to get on your soapbox.......please don't quote me if you're going to strawman me. I see myself quoted and then an ensuing onslaught of posts that had nothing to do with me or anything I said Thank you for your attention to this matter. 1
HarryArchieGus Posted October 15 Posted October 15 10 hours ago, ExcellenceofAirPollution said: I got quoted in the last thread by @HarryArchieGus when I said "good wrestling, bad crowd" about Dynamite. He then proceeded to go on a rant about people shitting on matches because the crowd is bad.....and I want to make clear that I DID NOT AND DO NOT DO THAT. Bad crowds hurt my enjoyment of a show for sure, and there isn't necessarily a correlation to the quality of matches or the show. I feel like that doesn't even need to be said. Just wanted to clear that up, and if you were just using my Dynamite thoughts as a springboard to get on your soapbox.......please don't quote me if you're going to strawman me. I see myself quoted and then an ensuing onslaught of posts that had nothing to do with me or anything I said Thank you for your attention to this matter. Ha, reduced to a 'rant'. That wasn't critical of your comments at all - it was a response to review pod shows like WOR and Post Wrestling burying the matches because of the heat. Something Alvarez, Dave, Pollock and Wei Ting do pretty regularly. So it felt worthy of being 'said'. I'm with your reply 'rant'. Sorry for the confusion. Quoted my original post for clarity.... Quote Re: Sleepy/disinterested uninterested crowds This show, and shows with 'meh' crowds like it, work far better on an encore viewing - divorced from the heat expectation. It's interesting hearing all the instanteous post show reviews judging the action with so much attention to the crowd heat. Sure, we all prefer hot crowds, but it's ignorant to expect it in 2025. And it feels even more mindless to bury something, especiallly something well crafted, that doesn't get the right reaction. The current day crowds are fickle for reasons beyond the quality of the action. Some crowds are seemingly there for the sole purpose of reacting to entrances and catchphrases. I get the kneejerk of they didn't get the crowd so this is a lesser quality match, but that, again, seems inattentive of the actual work. Why am I relying on a majority of ppl watching the show live on whether I enjoy the match or not? Not at all to say it's always easy to overlook the sleepwalkers sitting on their hands. Curious what other's here think on this.
twiztor Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 hour ago, HarryArchieGus said: Re: Sleepy/disinterested uninterested crowds This show, and shows with 'meh' crowds like it, work far better on an encore viewing - divorced from the heat expectation. It's interesting hearing all the instanteous post show reviews judging the action with so much attention to the crowd heat. Sure, we all prefer hot crowds, but it's ignorant to expect it in 2025. And it feels even more mindless to bury something, especiallly something well crafted, that doesn't get the right reaction. The current day crowds are fickle for reasons beyond the quality of the action. Some crowds are seemingly there for the sole purpose of reacting to entrances and catchphrases. I get the kneejerk of they didn't get the crowd so this is a lesser quality match, but that, again, seems inattentive of the actual work. Why am I relying on a majority of ppl watching the show live on whether I enjoy the match or not? Not at all to say it's always easy to overlook the sleepwalkers sitting on their hands. Curious what other's here think on this. to play devil's advocate here, there's certainly an interplay between the performers/action in the ring and the crowd. I think it's important to remember that different matches/angles/etc. have different purposes, and the moves performed, the audience buy-in, the setting, the performers, and the history all have differing levels of what they are looking to achieve. If a match is technically great but the crowd isn't invested, is it ACTUALLY good? OTOH, if a match is mechanically dogshit, but the crowd is losing their mind with emotion, is that a good match or a bad match? 1 1
Cobra Commander Posted October 15 Posted October 15 For any lurking AEW wrestlers looking for cheap heat material for the KC area: while the usual “Chiefs only win due to the refs” stuff is probably sound-enough cheap heat, you can go for a deep reference by mentioning a study from the University of Texas-El Paso which proves some point that ends with you getting booed by 2000 people in a hockey arena Local inferiority complexes are probably good material for mic work. Or say that the Chiefs are moving to Kansas. Or act like you’re in Kansas instead of Missouri if you want some real low effort heat
Zimbra Posted October 15 Posted October 15 3 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said: For any lurking AEW wrestlers looking for cheap heat material for the KC area: while the usual “Chiefs only win due to the refs” stuff is probably sound-enough cheap heat, you can go for a deep reference by mentioning a study from the University of Texas-El Paso which proves some point that ends with you getting booed by 2000 people in a hockey arena Local inferiority complexes are probably good material for mic work. Or say that the Chiefs are moving to Kansas. Or act like you’re in Kansas instead of Missouri if you want some real low effort heat If Don Callis said he was getting away from all this Raytown trash to go to the real Kansas City in Johnson County he might get legit stabbed after the show. 1
Cobra Commander Posted October 15 Posted October 15 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Zimbra said: If Don Callis said he was getting away from all this Raytown trash to go to the real Kansas City in Johnson County he might get legit stabbed after the show. probability-wise, Raytown might be one of the least represented parts of the county so “Independence trash” might be more likely if AEW ever acknowledged which suburb the Cable-Dahmer Arena is in. Or he can make a reference to meth. Callis feels more likely to make references to the atomic bombings of Japan and Okada/Takeshita and Harry Truman while on commentary so that the live audience doesn’t hear it. Next years Dynamite in the KC will inspire Don to talk about the World Cup in his micwork for the 75 members of the Don Callis Family Edited October 15 by Cobra Commander 3
Curt McGirt Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Should we start doing a 1/1 comparison between NWO members and Callis Family members? Is Lance Archer the equivalent of Scott Norton? 4
tbarrie Posted October 15 Posted October 15 36 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: Should we start doing a 1/1 comparison between NWO members and Callis Family members? Depends on whether you mean the characters or the performers. If it's the latter, that would require us to compare somebody to Terry Bollea, which would seem unnecessarily harsh. 2
HarryArchieGus Posted October 15 Posted October 15 I like this line-up. Toni elevated Stat to her level last time around, and here's hoping for more of same. Stoked for that match without any futher hype. A great example of the truly fantastic Toni Storm elevating those around her. Stat needed this. I love this Dynamite in-ring line-up. Dark horses throughout - Claudio vs Roddy feels like an early Christmas gift. Digging this new LFI unit. I wonder if Beast doesn't get his hand on some gold tonight. OC/KOR-Yuta/Garcia sounds fucking awesome. Interested to see how both teams collaborate. Hayter gave Julia and Anna Jay their best bouts in awhile. I assume it'll be the same for Blue. Stoked for the Omega trios.
tbarrie Posted October 15 Posted October 15 16 minutes ago, HarryArchieGus said: Digging this new LFI unit. I wonder if Beast doesn't get his hand on some gold tonight. I wouldn't be at all surprised if somebody pins Joe to win the title. Hangman counting Joe down could add more heat to their upcoming match. 16 minutes ago, HarryArchieGus said: Stoked for the Omega trios. You misspelled "the Luchasaurus trios". Easy mistake to make.
porksweats Posted October 15 Posted October 15 2 hours ago, Curt McGirt said: Should we start doing a 1/1 comparison between NWO members and Callis Family members? Is Lance Archer the equivalent of Scott Norton? I'm eager to find out who their Vincent is. I would've had Fletcher down as their Buff but he's truly the stuff.
SovietShooter Posted October 15 Posted October 15 3 hours ago, tbarrie said: I wouldn't be at all surprised if somebody pins Joe to win the title. Hangman counting Joe down could add more heat to their upcoming match. I think there is a solid chance the trios titles change hands tonight. Something like Hangman and Joe brawl to the back, Mortos & Hobbs brawl to the back, Sammy at ringside fucks ove Shibata, and Rush gets the pin.
Cobra Commander Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Things I Remember From This Week's Edition of AEW Dynamite: Quite a few prerecorded backstage segments. Felt like a lot of those segments for the first hour, which might be a relevant detail if one wants to be unhappy about the crowd heat. More GOA vs Hurt Syndicate, and even more at the PPV Moxley and Darby doing things in a pre-record It's Roderick Strong on a Wednesday for once There's a Don Callis lookalike in the first row Logical reason for Jack Perry to dive into a crowd of 25 Don Callis Family members Should I have paid more attention to the match involving one part of the World title match with Hangman on commentary? Orange and O'Reilly taking on the Death Rider B-Team, which leads to more Darby/Mox build FTR! Harley Cameron! We got it all tonight. Kudos to Excalibur for alluding to the arena not actually being in Kansas City ("in the shadow of Kansas City") Thank goodness they decided to not try doing 4 hours tonight 1
Casey Posted October 16 Posted October 16 I fell asleep after Jurassic Express & Omega versus the DCF B-Team. Second week in a row that the show just isn't keeping me interested, and I can't really pinpoint any one thing.
Curt McGirt Posted October 16 Posted October 16 This was an incredibly good go-home show this time. It felt long as hell, but hey, if you want good wrestling on a Wednesday night this was a full meal deal. Felt like tag match/singles/tag match/singles etc. and that's just fine, especially reading the card at the top it just felt like tag/tag/tag/singles/tag. Spoiler - We open with a talk segment with Renee where Toni gives her impeccably goofy "dramatic movie star trying to sound dramatic" cadence to her part and then Kris pipes up and it sounds like a parody, like purple prose where she's playing along with trying to be a goober. Then they get in the ring and their "brawl" is a bunch of wrestling moves. I get the laughs, and dig it, but they and we are either gonna look down the road and say "that was pretty good considering" or "that was corny as fuck". Sticking the landing is the problem. It doesn't help when they cut to the announcers and Bryan has this look in his eyes like "what the fuck did I just watch?" (He's been through worse; could have involved dolphins and bees.) Still, fun stuff. - You can show Hurt Syndicate vs. GOA every night and I'll watch it. Highlights were every time somebody ran another person over like a moving train. The end was wonky though; it looked like they weren't supposed to stop there and that Shelton was calling the pinfall because he was hurt. It's possible his jaw could've been cracked or something considering how he was acting after. Maybe they just ran out of time and didn't have a finish planned? This is also when I realized that they weren't in Daily's Place and the crowd was hot shit. Quite the change. - Claudio/Roddy was damn good, DAMN good. Clearly Claudio's been around long enough to tell Roddy "no chops" and after seeing what he did to Jon last time, I don't blame him. Darby bleeds in the "many lawsuits are pending" cell interview and later on playing zombie to the Riders. - I stopped paying attention to the next one, then looked up and it appeared that Mark Davis was in the ring wrestling a small child, albeit one with a very large beard. Good lord is that man a slab of beef (which is something the fans were quite fond of chanting throughout the night). - OUCH! Skye Blue suffers through possibly the longest (competitive) squash match ever against a vengeful Jamie Hayter. The stiffness was through the roof for this one. Skye, hats off, you've been around long enough to not deserve that but maybe that's... just Jamie? - We hit #4 on the number of ICE propaganda slideshows. I wasn't around for every commercial break but if they hit every single one, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised. Wonder if there's a reason for that? Hmmm... - Next two were excellent crowdpleasers from what was watched. Garcia's new setup of kicker boots and MMA drawers are just fine by me, in fact that might be his best look yet period. Meanwhile, here's Bryan on PAC's gear: "He's actually wearing clothes now, which is oddly absurd" The changing gear continues with Willow wearing the least revealing top of all time in the wake of the hullabaloo about her boobies on whatever internet thing, which made me think she'd just double down, but instead she decides to refuse the midnight chokers their desires! Whatever choice you decide is the right one, ma'am. - FTR Bald is such a scum on the mic. Harley is getting really really good at this pro wrestling thing. Her and Megan have a great match with hard bites on all the nearfalls. Kudos. - Main was fun with a very definitive finish on Rocky (of course). Our faces (at least Mark and Bandido because Brody is HARDCORE and passes on humor in favor of verisimilitude) do a little Macarena which ARCHER of all people mocks. This was rockin. If they can pay it all off at Wrestledream, we're in for a treat.
The Green Meanie Posted October 16 Posted October 16 I liked that D-Bry mentioned Garcia & Yuta's past, I think I was one of the folks that brought that up when he joined. 2
Brandon Bones Posted October 16 Posted October 16 I haven’t seen the whole show. But Claudio and Roddy was great for me as a “nothing but wrestling cut out the bullshit” match. What I really liked was the prison window segment. It’s not the brand of thing I’d book all the time. But here it did a service to allow the characters to just talk TO each other rather than AT each other like you’d get with an in ring promo battle. The reflection in the glass was a beautiful benefit so the camera can get right up in the face of who is speaking while still catching the reaction or just to see them actually listening. Now just wait another 6-8 months before AEW tries anything cinematic again. 4
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