Cobra Commander Posted August 9 Posted August 9 Russoriffic idea: while doing one of those “tag team partners actually hate each other” angles, the feuding partners are in a six-man where they don’t tag each other but will tag the third guy
SirSmUgly Posted August 9 Posted August 9 9 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said: Russoriffic idea: while doing one of those “tag team partners actually hate each other” angles, the feuding partners are in a six-man where they don’t tag each other but will tag the third guy There's a trios tag match from a 1999 Thunder with a slightly different approach, in that Billy Kidman is the babyface who is abused by his heel tag partners Malenko and Benoit, but I do like the idea that Kidman's befuddlement with his partners and his straightforward babyface approach to the match pissing them off is exactly what you'd want out of the third man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUOz5roSX2Q That could be a fun idea, as Russoriffic as it is. Some of Russo's ideas were actually intriguing; it's just that he's terrible at executing them or elaborating them in an interesting way. 3
Cobra Commander Posted August 9 Posted August 9 I guess the WCW version of the idea I have is if Savage/Sting/Luger teamed up in October 95 where Savage and Luger wouldn’t tag each other and Sting would be the go-between 4
SirSmUgly Posted August 9 Posted August 9 16 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said: I guess the WCW version of the idea I have is if Savage/Sting/Luger teamed up in October 95 where Savage and Luger wouldn’t tag each other and Sting would be the go-between Sting as Luger's disappointed, fed-up dad was always a gem, so this would have worked out great with him in that role. 2
Cobra Commander Posted August 9 Posted August 9 I guess the modern version of this would involve Moxley and Claudio being mad at each other and Wheeler Yuta having to be the go-between who has to eat a certain amount of offense since his two larger partners aren’t working with each other 3
S.K.o.S. Posted August 9 Posted August 9 New wrestling crossword: https://bsky.app/profile/avalanchestyle.bsky.social/post/3lvyehvm22c27 4
Cobra Commander Posted August 10 Posted August 10 (edited) watching a Vintage Wrestling Channel "Best of the 1970s" video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B_a3sDKmzw ) and realizing that if you combined Vader with Curt Hennig, it'd look a bit like Larry the Ax Hennig meanwhile, 1970s Ivan Koloff looking a bit like Lenin Edited August 10 by Cobra Commander 3
The Natural Posted August 10 Posted August 10 https://youtu.be/Rigpilt6GSc?si=-cUJG2458dnn_bir I think Becky Lynch after her match with Charlotte Flair and Carmella at SummerSlam 2018 is my favourite Becky Lynch moment ever. 18:00 mark. The massive pop Becky got attacking Charlotte, the "Yes!" chants, the "Becky" chants and "You deserve it" directed at Charlotte. LOL at the latter. This sent Becky Lynch on the way to super stardom alongside getting her nose broken by Nia Jax, bloody Becky is an iconic visual. 1
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 10 Posted August 10 This is a tough rewatch. I don't know how much more I can take. Up to the first ever 'Uncensored' now and not everything is bad but some of the concepts are just terrible and I think I just saw Hogan beat Vader in a strap match, not by dragging Vader to all 4 corners but by dragging Flair, who wasn't in the match, to all the corners. What the fuck? 7
SirSmUgly Posted August 10 Posted August 10 19 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: This is a tough rewatch. I don't know how much more I can take. Up to the first ever 'Uncensored' now and not everything is bad but some of the concepts are just terrible and I think I just saw Hogan beat Vader in a strap match, not by dragging Vader to all 4 corners but by dragging Flair, who wasn't in the match, to all the corners. What the fuck? At Uncensored five years later, Hogan beats Flair in a Strap Match with a legdrop and a pinfall. Forget it Niners, it's Hogantown. 2
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 10 Posted August 10 4 minutes ago, SirSmUgly said: At Uncensored five years later, Hogan beats Flair in a Strap Match with a legdrop and a pinfall. Forget it Niners, it's Hogantown. I'm not sure what's worse because I'm also doing a 1995-96 watch through of WWF. There's a lot of shows/PPVs from that two year span that I haven't seen. But I will say that for now I think WCW is the shittier product. I'd rather watch Diesel as champion than Hulk Hogan. 1
Curt McGirt Posted August 10 Posted August 10 On 8/8/2025 at 5:18 AM, zendragon said: This is up there with the story about how he was going to go head to head with Howard Stern but instead decided to book ECW as far I'd trust Paul HeyMan as far as I can throw him I dunno. Tammy Sytch could probably turn anybody off to wrestling by experiencing her behavior, even on the phone. This is wild (and gross) speculation, but what if she hit on Frank behind Chris' back? We all know she wasn't, let's say, completely loyal. I'll throw in my approval of the Death of the Territories and Nitro books, particularly the latter. You really get a sense for what Bischoff particularly had to deal with, and I came off with almost a grudging respect for the dude. He was a straight hustler to get where he was at and he kind of deserved it, even if he helped fuck everything up. (Take in mind there is a LOT of him in the book. Bret Hart partisans may need not apply.) 3
Cobra Commander Posted August 11 Posted August 11 blaming the person that's going to be in prison for the next few decades is a solid play on Paul's part... if he blamed someone who was dead, it would be in bad taste; if he blamed someone who was alive and could respond, they might dispute the story 2
Stefanie Sparkleface Posted August 11 Posted August 11 2 hours ago, SirSmUgly said: At Uncensored five years later, Hogan beats Flair in a Strap Match with a legdrop and a pinfall. Forget it Niners, it's Hogantown. It's hard for me to decide what was worse, that or Flair beating Hogan by fast count pinfall in a first blood match at the prior year's Uncensored. 3
Elsalvajeloco Posted August 11 Posted August 11 3 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said: I'm not sure what's worse because I'm also doing a 1995-96 watch through of WWF. There's a lot of shows/PPVs from that two year span that I haven't seen. But I will say that for now I think WCW is the shittier product. I'd rather watch Diesel as champion than Hulk Hogan. Yeah, having done it and made it to the formation of the NWO, I dunno about that last part. There is A LOT of promotional sabotage that went along with Diesel and to be fair, Shawn's first title reign as well. I dunno what happened to Vince after the trial ended in 1994, but the downswing in quality beginning in the summer of 94 is extremely noticeable. The next two years are ROUGH. Keep in mind, I was watching Raw, Superstars, and Challenge to go along with the PPVs. When you compare ECW and SMW to WWF and WCW at the same time, it feels like those companies a little bit closer to modern times. SMW doesn't really get bad until towards the end when it's Cornette just has too much on his plate and he also goes back to feuding with Bullet Bob. I will say that for whatever the Hogan regime did, it feels like it did reenergize WCW Saturday Night cause it was just wrestling matches prior to Hogan's arrival. You see why no one was really checking for WCW prior to Hogan coming in. Everything is point A to point B to point C. Extremely vanilla. IMO it doesn't really feel like Hogan's WCW until about mid way into 1995 when they push The Renegade. Then, it's in full swing. However, comparing that WCW to WWF the same time in 1995, it's likely comparing getting a slug in the upper thigh to getting shot in the neck. We can come up with theories about which one is better, but we're just splitting hairs. WCW's saving grace is that once Nitro becomes a thing, it feels important. Also, when WCW plucks Malenko, Guerrero, and Benoit away from ECW, they have completely replenished their lower mid card in a way that WWF didn't do until six or seven months later and had struggled mightily to do since 1993 when they lost 1/3 of the roster. Each successive year for WWF has a lot of turnover in terms of talent. The bigger issue is the talent that comes in ain't exactly a runaway success. I will say that once Nitro goes two hours, they still don't have enough to cover two hours. However, WWF is struggling for one hour of decent content for Raw and Superstars. It's just the lesser of two evils.
twiztor Posted August 11 Posted August 11 8 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said: it's likely comparing getting a slug in the upper thigh to getting shot in the neck. We can come up with theories about which one is better, but we're just splitting hairs. i would take a slug in the leg over getting shot in the neck 100% of the time. 1 2
Elsalvajeloco Posted August 11 Posted August 11 9 minutes ago, twiztor said: i would take a slug in the leg over getting shot in the neck 100% of the time. If Sean Taylor (RIP) were here, he would totally disagree with you. However, personal preference is personal preference. 2
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 11 Posted August 11 I think my thing with Diesel is like "okay, this might not be good but it could exceed my expectations" whereas the Hogan main event stuff is a far worse sequel to things I've already seen from WWF. This Vader feud is so bad and I know there's Dungeon stuff that's coming that I've seen clips from that look even dumber. That said, the midcard of WCW still has some gems, so there's that. On WWF, there's Bret making chicken salad out of the guys he's being fed on these 'In Your House' shows except Hakushi who was always awesome. 1
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 11 Posted August 11 As a palette cleanser, I'm currently watching some Bobby Heenan in Georgia clips. How long was he there? This shit is awesome.
Elsalvajeloco Posted August 11 Posted August 11 7 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: I think my thing with Diesel is like "okay, this might not be good but it could exceed my expectations" whereas the Hogan main event stuff is a far worse sequel to things I've already seen from WWF. This Vader feud is so bad and I know there's Dungeon stuff that's coming that I've seen clips from that look even dumber. That said, the midcard of WCW still has some gems, so there's that. On WWF, there's Bret making chicken salad out of the guys he's being fed on these 'In Your House' shows except Hakushi who was always awesome. The issue with Diesel is they are trying so hard that he comes off as too goofy and cornball-ish that all the things that would make him redeeming are cancelled out. Had they went the direction they did right around when he put his notice in, which was more real life Kevin Nash who doesn't give a damn and doesn't respect authority, it would've came off as more authentic. As is, it's a man pretending to be WWF champion. It also doesn't help that they turn Shawn midway through his title reign and Shawn comes off as the STAR of the entire promotion cause Diesel is so corny. It totally cuts the legs out from under Diesel, and he didn't need more help making his title reign one to forget. 1
Curt McGirt Posted August 11 Posted August 11 22 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: As a palette cleanser, I'm currently watching some Bobby Heenan in Georgia clips. How long was he there? This shit is awesome. What? I read his book even and don't remember that coming up. Put up some links, it has to be good.
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 11 Posted August 11 22 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: What? I read his book even and don't remember that coming up. Put up some links, it has to be good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_ymx052G3o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLQAhobrNOg 1
Curt McGirt Posted August 11 Posted August 11 (edited) I turn on the bottom and there is Gordon talking to him and Karl Kox just wanders over from behind with his glass eye and title and yeah thank you guys this is gonna RULE EDIT: Okay, after doing a Wiki I remember the story about Ole firing him after a year after he moved his whole family down and bought a house. What a nice man, that Ole, simply legendary for it... Anyway, another tidbit is he first hurt his neck on an AWA tour of Japan (?!) against... Onita (?!?!). Edited August 11 by Curt McGirt 2
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