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Craig H

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On 8/28/2025 at 5:10 PM, Niners Fan in CT said:

Dave made my head hurt today and I found myself agreeing with Alvarez.  Dave kept saying "Tony has to load up ALL OUT! He's making a mistake not moving it to the afternoon! It's going to be their lowest buy rate for a PPV ever! All the hype WWE/ESPN is going to have! This isn't a situation where someone can just pick and choose!" 

And Alvarez was like "Dave,  the AEW fans are already paying $50 every month for their PPVs.  They probably don't care about Cena and Lesnar.  They can watch that the next morning or something if they watch it at all." 

And Dave kept saying "but look at what Collision does when WWE has a PLE!"  

I honestly think ALL OUT will be perfectly fine.  I know I'm ordering ALL OUT.  I stopped caring about Cena vs. Lesnar a decade ago. 

You left out the dumbest part where Dave really sounded like a DUMBASS.

 According to Dave, and how he would know or even think this I don’t know, but only 30 fo 40k of AEW’s PPV buys are from the hardcore fans.

 They’ve done over 100k for every PPV I think. Dave is out of his element here. The older he gets the more he needs to shut up. Bryan is getting into arguments with Dave more and more and Bryan is mature enough to not throw his hands up in frustration, but I can’t imagine how much more he could take. Honestly, I know Dave is his friend, but I’d rather see Bryan and his gang and maybe twice a week see a Bryan and SRS show. 

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SovietShooter

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I think you may be confusing the discussion on PPV numbers.  

AEW does 100K+ for each PPV, but it isn't the same 100K people buying each and every PPV. It was something like 40K were repeat buyers.  

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    AEW had approximately 590,000 different homes purchase its PPV events in 2023. A study of who bought AEW PPV shows and how many, shows like in most years, that AEW’s PPV audience is very different from what is imagined. Most of the PPV audience is not people repeat buying, but new people buying.

    In the past, some had believed that stats from past years that showed the vast majority of buyers only purchase one event per year was because it was a regular group of viewers who switch homes. With the increase from four PPVs to five in 2022 and eight in 2023, particularly this past year, the idea would be that it would indicate far more buying two or three shows then in prior years, particularly two, since most groups watching together would be maybe three to five people at most. Instead it was the opposite.

    During the last study we did, which covered the period from the 2022 Double or Nothing show through 2023 Revolution, there were approximately 520,000 individuals who had purchased an AEW PPV during that one year period.

Here is a link to the original number discussion from February 2024, so the data is a year and half old, so I'm sure it has changed somewhat, with AEW running more successful PPV.  and I'm not exactly sure where Dave gets his PPV data, but he is well known to have rock solid PPV info, going back decades, for wrestling, MMA, boxing, you name it. 

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Niners Fan in CT

Niners Fan in CT

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I don't think it's an issue that 40-50% are repeat buyers.  That just means that the lowest they could go is like 60k but they are routinely well over 100k every single month.  That doesn't mean to me that they are "casuals" that means to me that AEW's net is wider spread than one might think. 

SovietShooter

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1 hour ago, Niners Fan in CT said:

That doesn't mean to me that they are "casuals" that means to me that AEW's net is wider spread than one might think. 

The other thing that the PPV numbers say, to me at least, is how big of a percentage of their television numbers but the PPV. If, for example, Dynamite is doing 600K viewers, and a PPV is going 120K, that means like 1/5th of their tv audience is buying the PPV (which is a ridiculous ROI), or a helluva lot more folks are watching AEW via means that aren't factoring into the published ratings - and still getting a high ROI. 

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Niners Fan in CT

Niners Fan in CT

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7 minutes ago, SovietShooter said:

The other thing that the PPV numbers say, to me at least, is how big of a percentage of their television numbers but the PPV. If, for example, Dynamite is doing 600K viewers, and a PPV is going 120K, that means like 1/5th of their tv audience is buying the PPV (which is a ridiculous ROI), or a helluva lot more folks are watching AEW via means that aren't factoring into the published ratings - and still getting a high ROI. 

It's two things.  PPV numbers are worldwide.  Not just domestic.  AEW is popular in the UK and maybe a couple other countries as well.  UK TV ratings for AEW have been reported as being pretty solid.  

The other thing is the ~600K number is only U.S. viewers on TBS.  It doesn't factor in the rest of the world or the people who stream Dynamite on HBO Max. For example, I always watch Dynamite on HBO Max. 

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DJ Hero Morganti

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7 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:

I know we've had this discussion on the Discord (the guy who shit himself at the wrestling card and kept moving seats, um, stuck with me) and since it's come up again I want a poll of smelliest fans: metalheads, wrestling fans, sports fans, comic book conventioneers, and travelling gutter punks/oogles*. I give it to the punks because I had this traveller dude take his boots off in my apartment one time and I had to practically fumigate the fucking place after that. 

* I don't like to use the term "crusties" because the crust clothing/music style does not necessitate uncleanliness. "Oogle" does. https://antigravitymagazine.com/feature/new-orleans-oogle/

Trading card game tournament participants...

Especially Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon adults.

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Johnny Sorrow

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7 hours ago, ExcellenceofAirPollution said:

what percentage of hippies buy AEW PPVs?  Or what percentage of AEW PPV buys are from hippies?

I get one every now and then. 

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JLowe

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1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said:

Sorry Johnny but I immediately thought of you there

Same 🙂

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Johnny Sorrow

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Between all the Dead shows, comic/ Trek conventions, and wrestling shows I've been to; I can safely say that the smelliest folks I've been around were at Indy wrestling. 
The worst was at Joe vs. Kobashi. ROH zipped tied the seats together on the floor and I was smooshed in between two giant, fat, sweaty, smelly dudes the whole night. If memory serves Pete and Rev Ray were sitting behind me, laughing at my situation. I may have imagined that, though. 

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Zimbra

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As a young Zimbra I went to a D&D game specifically for teens at GenCon and 30 years later the smell still haunts me.

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Niners Fan in CT

Niners Fan in CT

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I've been to a lot of live wrestling and luckily I don't recall too many foul odors.  The worst fans I ever experienced were at a Boston show.  The dudes right next to us wouldn't shut the fuck up the whole time,  they were super drunk and obnoxious from the time they arrived.  

JLowe

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The worst I’ve ever been were crust punk shows and the times I would go to the UT anime club showings in the late ‘90s

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RazorbladeKiss87

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We had shows at our house in college and there were a few other punk houses having shows and I will say the crusties and folk punx were the dirt worst for smells. Eventually I just stopped hosting those type of shows. Only skramz in my basement.  

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Johnny Sorrow

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4 hours ago, RazorbladeKiss87 said:

We had shows at our house in college and there were a few other punk houses having shows and I will say the crusties and folk punx were the dirt worst for smells. Eventually I just stopped hosting those type of shows. Only skramz in my basement.  

All of this sounds like Red Dwarf references I don't get because I only saw season one.

JLowe

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4 hours ago, Zimbra said:

Wait, were we at UT at the same time? I was there 99-01?

I was in grad school there from 93-95 and then again from 2002-2004 (finally technically finished my masters in 2008), but I worked at UT (The Daily Texan advertising/composing department) from 95-2003.

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Johnny Sorrow

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Smelliest and most horrifying shitter I've ever seen is a tie between the porta john that we wrapped some police tape around in an overflow "campground" across from Rich Stadium in Buffalo at the 7/4/89 Dead show...and the shitter at the ECW Arena that looked the Trainspotting toilet. 

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southofheavy

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7 hours ago, RazorbladeKiss87 said:

We had shows at our house in college and there were a few other punk houses having shows and I will say the crusties and folk punx were the dirt worst for smells. Eventually I just stopped hosting those type of shows. Only skramz in my basement.  

One time I was standing on the sidewalk in front of the venue when Pageninetynine got out of their van.

One van, ten men on tour for weeks. A warm wind followed them out. 

 

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