May 2025 Wrestling Talk

[J.H.]

42 minutes ago, Technico Support said:

“I need a dust filter for a Hoover Max Extract Pressure Pro Model 60“

Why do I see this as FedEx because that filter absolutely, positively has to be there... OVERNIGHT!

James

[Curt McGirt]

Via the Midnight Express? *wah wah wahhhhh*

Anyway, Moondogs/Fabs was just fine, typical brawl as expected in a disgusting looking ring. The real moment of note is the end with Steve Keirn getting his head hung in the ropes, his legs pulled by the Moondogs until he goes limp, and that's the finish. Suitably nasty -- and of course they dump him off the stretcher for extra heat. Take off as many stars as needed for Jimmy Hart's whistle. 

[Curt McGirt]

Yo, check this out: 

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While watching WCW as a kid, I noticed a pretty noticeable scar on the back of Dean Malenko's neck and always wondered where it stemmed from, but only made years later did I find out it was from a severe surgery following a high school car accident in 1977.

Following the crash, doctors made a surprising discovery: Malenko was born with only six neck bones (cervical vertebrae) instead of the usual seven.

That rare condition put him at a high risk for a severe spine injury.

Faced with a difficult choice, Malenko decided to undergo a complex surgery. Doctors fused two of his vertebrae to protect his spine.

As Malenko recalls: "The doctors laid it out pretty clearly. They said I might go through life just fine, or I could take a hit to the back of my head and end up paralyzed. At 16, I chose to have the surgery, even though I wasn't sure if I'd ever wrestle again."

Despite the surgery, Dean Malenko enjoyed a career that spanned decades.

 

[Cobra Commander]

Mongo turning heel in 1996 really did make sense of "Mongo's wife Debra is in the audience for 6 consecutive weeks"

also, if Iceberg ever escaped Georgia indies, would he have feuded with Glacier?

[Curt McGirt]

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MVP offered a look into the world of wrestling promos, highlighting the major differences between WWE and AEW when it comes to creative freedom on the mic. “That depends on where you work,” he explained, noting that in WWE, many promos are “completely scripted” and require talent to “memorize the promo word for word.” However, MVP emphasized that some talent earn more leeway. “They would tell me like ‘VP it up.’ ... Just write the overview and then I’ll look it over... I’m going to go and I’m going to try to strike a chord within you.”

In contrast, MVP described AEW as significantly more relaxed. “AEW, they don’t script out the promos for people. ... You go out there, you cut a promo, get yourself over, get your situation over, get the group over.” While AEW offers help if needed, it ultimately empowers wrestlers to shape their own voice.

He shared how “your trust level with the boss” determines your freedom. Despite mostly being trusted, MVP recalled two times Vince McMahon reprimanded him. The first was for following a writer’s direction: “Vince McMahon just went ‘God damn it MVP why would you do that?’” He took responsibility rather than throwing the writer under the bus. The second time, he replaced a Tyson Fury reference with Francis Ngannou. “Vince looks at me, he goes ‘Nobody knows who this Francis guy is anyway.’”

MVP explained that great promos rely on “passion, conviction, and presentation.” Whether you're a babyface or a heel, you need to match the energy and emotion the role requires. He praised The Miz as “exceptional” for making audiences want to hate him, while also stating, “I don’t memorize anything.” For MVP, memorization can be a trap: “If you memorize a promo and you forget a line, then you’re lost.”

He recalled a chaotic night on Raw where, “10 minutes to 8,” a writer handed him “three pages of dialogue” for a new promo with Bobby Lashley. Bobby refused to even look at it: “Man give that s*** to Petey Williams. Don’t walk up to me five minutes before we go out and hand me three pages.” MVP improvised, coordinated minimal cues with Lashley, and pulled it off live: “I tore that s*** up.”

Source: Marking Out with MVP & Dwayne Swayze

 

[odessasteps]

Was informed by a friend who was digg8ng around on pro wrestling wiki that they include Ultimate Surrender Wrestling in their database. The funniest thing is they may have had more rules, according to the wiki than ECW. 

[Cobra Commander]

well, I'd think a domination-themed fetish wrestling site would have *some* rules

[username]

7 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:

MVP explained that great promos rely on “passion, conviction, and presentation.” Whether you're a babyface or a heel, you need to match the energy and emotion the role requires. He praised The Miz as “exceptional” for making audiences want to hate him, while also stating, “I don’t memorize anything.” For MVP, memorization can be a trap: “If you memorize a promo and you forget a line, then you’re lost.”

I have to quote this just to pass on a story told to me almost literally decades back. An online friend of mine ended up working security for a WWE TV show and the main thing I remember is him telling me about MVP (probably a year or two after his debut) literally walking back and forth down a hallway trying to remember his lines. It wasn't even particularly long (it was just some walk to a door/enter/talk to someone deal) but he saw them have to tape it multiple times as he seemed to overrehearse it so much that he legit screwed himself up and just could not get it right (or at least give them what they wanted).

So yes, he legit is not a fan of memorizing stuff, and for good reason.

[lostinube]

This could go in the joshi thread, the puro thread or the AEW thread but Konosuke Takeshita and Yuka Sakazaki just announced that they are married. Since this is a Japanese couple, that means they could have actually been married for the last five years and only decided to tell everyone else today.

[hammerva]

So WWE is running NXT Great American Bash head to head with AEW All In .   I guess the advantage of running on steaming services is that you don't have to worry about comparing buyrates and other numbers to see if doing this last week was even a decent idea.  

[Casey]

I appreciate TK and Triple H for deciding to run 5 shows on my birthday weekend.

[Cobra Commander]

I guess one upside to the 1/4/99 Nitro is that it killed the concept of “let me spoil the results of the taped show on the other channel” because for all the talk about the current war-ish war. Things used to be way more petty.

See: WCW running bumpers of ex-WCW (who were in the WWF) jobbing, which they stopped once they got Hall and Nash

Random: a shame that Nick Patrick grew up in a world where he couldn’t do more promos essentially imitating his dad

https://youtu.be/_Jls_WCh83k?si=fCoBGwiOGt7Vc-WD

[Dolfan in NYC]

 

[Zimbra]

That video is ass but it is pretty funny to follow up the guys who can barely walk due to medical issues with Jacque Rougeau being a lil' paunchy.

[Log]

Sad to see old guys look like old guys?

[Peck]

Virgil would have hustled a $20 out of that dude. 

[zendragon]

[Dolfan in NYC]

14 minutes ago, zendragon said:

I'm sorry but Seth does not look like he is an accountant 

[odessasteps]

Does this mean Bron is being slotted into the Arn "enforcer" role in the New Dangerous Alliance (dont call it NDA)? 

[Curt McGirt]

I passed by the vacuum store again earlier today and got another look at the ancient, yellow sign in the window -- the kind where you fit the plastic letters in the grooves, like an old fast food restaurant or movie theater, or just some shit on the roadside. It read something like: "X VACUUM CLEANER, 10 YEAR WARRANTY" and below, "SURRENDER TO JESUS, LIFETIME SALVATION" 

And yeah, Seth is his top performer, not an accountant

[Elsalvajeloco]

Now that former UFC/MMA fighter, adult entertainer, and parent of a mass shooter Aaron Brink is no longer with us, maybe he can adopt his stage name: Dick Delaware.

[username]

10 hours ago, hammerva said:

So WWE is running NXT Great American Bash head to head with AEW All In .   I guess the advantage of running on steaming services is that you don't have to worry about comparing buyrates and other numbers to see if doing this last week was even a decent idea.  

FWIW I think the NXT event sold more tickets than one would have expected against the AEW ppv... but I also think they could be got as part of a package deal with either Raw or SNME so idk.

[odessasteps]

Imagine all the people who may have bought for Vacquer and she could be on the main roster by then. 

[BobbyWhioux]

13 hours ago, Dolfan in NYC said:

I'm sorry but Seth does not look like he is an accountant 

Well no, he’s an architect, remember?

[RazorbladeKiss87]

12 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

Now that former UFC/MMA fighter, adult entertainer, and parent of a mass shooter Aaron Brink is no longer with us, maybe he can adopt his stage name: Dick Delaware.

It says a lot that this event passed and I had literally no clue about it.  The Wikipedia hole I just went down was interesting.