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Were the Headshrinker heels? If so them, after that I always liked Owen, Yoko and Faarooq (even with the stupid gladiator gear).

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So, we're not long since Mania week, and WWE has started cutting office staff. The Senior Vice President of Creative Services (Christine Lubrano) being the most senior employee now gone.

Usually, they start with firing the office staff and then start releasing wrestlers a day later. Usually.

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I was so incredibly young when I started watching wrestling so I wasn't able to differentiate between heels and face until much later when it started making sense to me. Therefore, the people I throw out there are from when I clearly knew the difference cause the list before then would be just an assortment of random wrestlers.

I am thinking probably when WWF had their most talented in ring guys on the heel side minus Bret and Perfect. It had to be like Razor and Shawn and then months later when Owen turned at Royal Rumble 94. Cactus Jack during the Sting feud probably predated them all by a little bit. I know Jack had some matches with Sting and then had another set of matches with Sting. Taker before he officially turned babyface with the stuff with Jake is also on there now that I think about it.

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32 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

Taker before he officially turned babyface with the stuff with Jake is also on there now that I think about it.

i almost mentioned Taker, but he's a tough one. he didn't seem to align with face/heel dynamics to me. But then, i have always been into the scary/spooky/Halloween kind of stuff, so maybe i just couldn't look past that. I think my reaction was more wide-eyed astonishment rather than cheers or boos. The man's presence in that role was incredible.

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I think Razor Ramon was the first heel I really got into. He was just so much cooler than everyone else. Also, and this is really random because pre-teen me always liked the odd characters in the WWE mid card in the early-mid 90s, I always thought Adam Bomb was cool as hell too.

On the flip side, who was the first face you really couldn't stand? Liking Razor Ramon made me realize I could never stand Shawn Michaels when he became a face.

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On 5/1/2025 at 6:14 AM, twiztor said:

Picking up a crumb from last month's thread:

Who was the first heel you rooted for, and what age group were you?

Personally, and i just referenced this the other day, when Hogan and Savage feuded leading into Mania 5, i sided with Savage. I would have been 6-7. I think that speaks more to my absolute adoration of Savage moreso than my taste in characters, but it's easily the first instance of me going "against the narrative". I loved the Ultimate Warrior and the Legion of Doom and was back to cheering Hogan against the evil traitor Sgt. Slaughter a couple years later. I also always liked the Repo Man and the Mountie for some reason, likely the comedy. But other than those isolated incidents, i was fully aboard the babyface train until the nWo came about and rocked my world.

Same with Savage. I was also an instant fan of the Undertaker. The rope walk, the body bagging of half-dead jobbers, the aura.

This was less a thing for me with JCP/WCW, though it was specifically with tag teams: I was a big fan of the Midnights, Doom, and Harlem Heat.

Then again, for me the heel/face alignment in a Doom/Freebirds feud was obviously not the same as it was meant to be for the majority of the audience, so that's one caveat to consider. I also rooted for Bad News Brown unless he was wrestling Savage, come to think of it.

Like Nice Guy Eddie, I also would root for any heel that was running rings around a dumb babyface: Jake Roberts over Warrior, Doink over Crush. Jake cut a "scorpion and the frog" style promo on Warrior after his (obvious) heel turn that pretty much destroyed any remote interest I might have in rooting for Warrior back in 1991-ish.

22 hours ago, Cliff Hanger said:

I didn't watch wrestling with any regularity or intentionality until the NWO existed and half the damn dorm was watching Nitro and the MU* games I played on were creating dedicated wrestling chat channels to keep it from contaminating everything, so I'd have to say Chris Jericho when I was 20.

1996 WCW is my favorite year for either promotion during the Monday Night Wars era, with 1997 WWF running a somewhat close second.

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thankfully Stone Cold never did a Fish cheer version of "What?" or else that chant would have lasted even longer

"Give me a W" "What" "Give me a H" "What" "Give me an A" "What?" "Give me a T" "What" "What's that spell?" "What?" "What's that spell?" "What?"

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On 5/1/2025 at 8:14 AM, twiztor said:

Picking up a crumb from last month's thread:

Who was the first heel you rooted for, and what age group were you?

Personally, and i just referenced this the other day, when Hogan and Savage feuded leading into Mania 5, i sided with Savage. I would have been 6-7. I think that speaks more to my absolute adoration of Savage moreso than my taste in characters, but it's easily the first instance of me going "against the narrative". I loved the Ultimate Warrior and the Legion of Doom and was back to cheering Hogan against the evil traitor Sgt. Slaughter a couple years later. I also always liked the Repo Man and the Mountie for some reason, likely the comedy. But other than those isolated incidents, i was fully aboard the babyface train until the nWo came about and rocked my world.

I remember as a 5 year old cheering for Ric Rude and Manny Fernandaz over the Rock and Roll Express and cheering them when they won the tag titles from them!

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Great Muta, NWA in 1989, was my ground-zero for cheering for a heel. I was 11 years old. The mist, the face paint, and the moonsault. How could I NOT think "this dude is fucking awesome, I dont care that he's a 'bad guy'?"

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8 minutes ago, clintthecrippler said:

Great Muta, NWA in 1989, was my ground-zero for cheering for a heel. I was 11 years old. The mist, the face paint, and the moonsault. How could I NOT think "this dude is fucking awesome, I dont care that he's a 'bad guy'?"

Yeah, I was completely incapable for rooting against anyone with face paint.  If you add a cool top rope move to the face paint, I was all the way in on Muta.  The only problem is I grew up without cable, so I rarely saw WCW let alone Muta.  

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57 minutes ago, clintthecrippler said:

Great Muta, NWA in 1989, was my ground-zero for cheering for a heel. I was 11 years old. The mist, the face paint, and the moonsault. How could I NOT think "this dude is fucking awesome, I dont care that he's a 'bad guy'?"

 

44 minutes ago, supremebve said:

Yeah, I was completely incapable for rooting against anyone with face paint.  If you add a cool top rope move to the face paint, I was all the way in on Muta.  The only problem is I grew up without cable, so I rarely saw WCW let alone Muta.  

I was like 14 or 15 at the time and yeah, Muta was the shit.  Why WCW elected to go with a stupid ass round robin tournament for Starrcade when a title match between Flair vs undefeated Muta was right there I have no clue. 

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Weird one for me: Bad News Brown. He was facing Macho at MSG and cut a promo on how he was going to beat him and bring the championship home to NY which to me made him the face. 

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Fightful reporting internal memos sent out saying Braun Strowman, Shayna Baszler, Kayden Carter, Katana Chance and Dakota Kai have been released.

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And Bea Priestley. Or whatever her WWE name was.

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I thought Blair Davenport got released in last batch.  Did she get hired to get fired again 

Could potentially add Eddy Thorpe to the list.  That 4 month feud with Trick was pretty much for nothing 

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Apparently Bea was released in February so she's still waiting out the 90 days.

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was Braun's last moment with the company his rant at the Roast? also... Baszler is out

without checking, I'm thinking Baszler is the only release who was working under a real name instead of a stupid NXT name.

so, how long until Jimmy Hart gets the Hogan/Bischoff freestyle wrestling fed to branch out into women's MMA so that they could hire Baszler?

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2 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said:

was Braun's last moment with the company his rant at the Roast? also... Baszler is out

The last Braun moment I remember is Heyman going on McAfee and said he told him the reason he wasn't on WM was because he sucked 

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