4 hours ago, RazorbladeKiss87 said:

I've been trying to make an exact copy of the breakfast sauce and can't get it exactly right.  I would love them to sell that. 

Also, if you're the kind of guy who goes to Hootera, TWIN PEAKS is right there! In some parts of the US, at least. And their food is actually good!

I had never heard of Twin Peaks. Buddy stopped at one after a show. Just told me the name of the place.

I go and am disappointed they aint got the staff dressed up liek Agent Cooper and Audry Horne. I want B.O.B. there making the drinks. 

Jimmy Hart looking the same as he has looked for 40 years but he does sound old (well, he is 81)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2W4GU1M9bc

man does not age

 

Him and Taka.

On 5/16/2025 at 10:42 PM, username said:

Hooters is in massive debt so this may just be an attempt to grab some cash before it all falls apart anyways.

To put it in easy terms let's pretend Hooters is WCW and this is January of 2001. If you just buy the IP you don't have to buy the equipment or the debt or existing contracts. You just get the name WCW & all the other names owned by WCW. They're going to go out of business by March 2001. You're just trying to buy the easy to monetize part without assuming the business aspects that aren't working.

It's a pretty good business play if it works. You can franchise out new restaurants with that name and logo, or as has been mentioned already license it out for condiments and shirts and whatever other retail items. But the company may prefer to not take a short term cash influx to lose all that stuff and just let it go down with the ship (more like ECW in 2001). In which case once they go bankrupt they could try and buy the IP out of the bankruptcy sale like WWE did with ECW. But that would be up to a judge's discretion at that point. And they'd probably end up paying more vs buying it now before the ship has sank.

some dumbass is gonna buy the Hooters name so that they can put it on a brand of buffalo wings that get sold in stores

What would be funny is buying the name and opening franchise strip clubs. 

Just when I think society can't get any lower, someone tries to kiss Saraya on the mouth at an autograph signing. 

35 minutes ago, Peck said:

Just when I think society can't get any lower, someone tries to kiss Saraya on the mouth at an autograph signing. 

Hope it wasn’t Alberto. 

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Happy May 19th!

13 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:

some dumbass is gonna buy the Hooters name so that they can put it on a brand of buffalo wings that get sold in stores

TGI Fridays is all ready ahead of them

4 hours ago, The Natural said:

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Happy May 19th!

Beat me to it! Happy May 19th to all who celebrate!

10 hours ago, Peck said:

Just when I think society can't get any lower, someone tries to kiss Saraya on the mouth at an autograph signing. 

Is there a study on why wrestling fans are so fucking weird?  I vaguely remember reading a post where someone theorized that wrestling and other very niche/geeky hobbies attract a larger amount of antisocial people, people who are neurodivergent, etc....essentially that person's theory was that, a larger swath of wrestling fans, compared to other, more mainstream fandoms, really don't pick up on norms like being cool to people in public, showering regularly, etc.  But that was just one thing one person wrote.  Is there any more on this?

11 hours ago, Peck said:

Just when I think society can't get any lower, someone tries to kiss Saraya on the mouth at an autograph signing. 

that's awful.
i'm thankful but also kind of surprised it doesn't happen more often.

17 minutes ago, Technico Support said:

Is there a study on why wrestling fans are so fucking weird?  I vaguely remember reading a post where someone theorized that wrestling and other very niche/geeky hobbies attract a larger amount of antisocial people, people who are neurodivergent, etc....essentially that person's theory was that, a larger swath of wrestling fans, compared to other, more mainstream fandoms, really don't pick up on norms like being cool to people in public, showering regularly, etc.  But that was just one thing one person wrote.  Is there any more on this?

i know we joke about the "wrestling bubble" but....

I know, personally, that i was a nerdy kid in junior/high school. The wonder, and excitement, and larger than life presentation really drew me in. Adding in that it wasn't the ever-present mainstream presence (like, say, NFL, pop music, or the present day Marvel movies) really hooked me. It was MINE. I certainly went through a period where i was OBSESSED with wrestling. So i can easily see how this could lead to a hyperfixation on said sport/performer/celebrity. If that ultra focus continues, that's how it can lead to the mutants/neckbeards/mouth breathers. And that goes doubly so when that becomes more of the standard fan, rather than an outlier. It normalizes that behavior, which makes small aggressions a regular thing and larger aggressions (like the aforementioned attempted kiss) don't become THAT bizarre to you.

semi-related, my initial thought is that it's a bit of a chicken/egg situation. Does this niche sport attract weirdos? Or has this sport become more niche to cater to weirdos?

12 hours ago, Peck said:

Just when I think society can't get any lower, someone tries to kiss Saraya on the mouth at an autograph signing. 

At least we get to see what Paintbynumbers looks like now 😂

I know this I can tell before they reach the table what type of fan they are.

The ones that look like they know what a work out is usually became fans during the Attitute era and still watch.

The overweight or underweight ones are gonna be your fans that only really watch wrestling. Will know all the former gimmicks of the guys 

1 minute ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:

At least we get to see what Paintbynumbers looks like now 😂

Wonder if it is the guy that every few shows comes by the table "Hey you got that Paige Porno" tell him it never got a physical release and also I don't sell porn at the table. "Well I ain't found it yet what do I google to find it"

 

 

1 hour ago, twiztor said:

semi-related, my initial thought is that it's a bit of a chicken/egg situation. Does this niche sport attract weirdos? Or has this sport become more niche to cater to weirdos?

When you think about it, pro wrestling is probably one of the few decent paying entertainment endeavors where there is any sort of gender equality, at least in terms of focus and spotlight. More importantly for this discussion, as pro wrestling is still based on aesthetics and the fact that these entertainers of any gender are playing real life superhero avatars, the resulting interactions between performers or performers and fans probably leave a lot to be desired. People talk about kayfabe being dead, but as you can clearly see, people still believe these performers are stars of some renown. Otherwise, you wouldn't bother them in this type of fashion.

Infamous Japanese joshi freelancer Unagi Sayaka did a segment relatively recently where she interviewed a few people (IIRC Risa Sera, Chi Chi of Pro-Wrestling Evolution, and longtime puro ref Barb Sasaki) about the relationships between men and women in Japanese pro wrestling. It was interesting look because I don't ever remember anyone actually delving into intimate relationships like that in terms of Japanese wrestling. However, because you have less segregation now and you got Taka Michinoku and Kohei Suwama and Shuji Ishikawa having cards frequently with both men and women, it's probably more relevant than ever. Basically, unless something was lost in translation, you have some of the same issues you have on this side of the world. 

The point being is I dunno if there is going to be truly a safe space for performers, especially female performers. 

gonna have to check my home for a gas leak after one of my dreams included seeing a listing for a post-Halloween Havoc 95 match listing where there was a three-way tag team match with Sabu and Mongo McMichael as one of the teams

Edited May 19, 20251 yr by Cobra Commander

I'm really glad this issue about women wrestlers came up honestly because there's something that's starting to bother me and I don't know why:

Asking this and I hope no one feels attacked or thinks the worst about me, but why the fuck are Joshi fans so fucking weird? 

I mean, I get being a superfan, obsessed with wrestling, all that. For some reason though, when it comes to specifically Japanese womens wrestling, there's an extra level of defensiveness/loyalty/photodumping.

If you happen to enjoy a certain promotion/regional wrestling that's fine but lord if Joshi fans don't seem like the most rabid diehards. Questioning anything or being underwhelmed by someone invites a level of vitriol nowhere near critiques of other women's *or* men's wrestling. 

I won't go so far as to say it's sinister or a fetish but there's a level of devotion that I simply cannot fathom. 

Again, I'm just noting a thing I've noticed in online circles. I do not mean to personally attack anyone and if this is out of bounds and creating a nonexistent issue please tell me.

(that I even worry enough about backlash to pre-emptively clarify what I mean should say something)

Edited May 19, 20251 yr by Sex Machine Gun

7 minutes ago, Sex Machine Gun said:

why the fuck are Joshi fans so fucking weird? 

i'm not a joshi fan, and i don't personally know any in my real life. And haven't encountered anything like that here, which is really my only online interaction with wrestling fans. But if i could keep playing psycho-analyst,

i would guess that it's a combination of factors, but the fetishization of Japanese women + tight/revealing clothing + body contortion. and then getting over defensive due to the perceived deviancy of liking something that includes the above? i know that if/when i have to preemptively add in clarifying remarks, it changes how i want to discuss said topic. 

also, i got a good kick out of this question being asked by "SEX MACHINE GUN"

7 minutes ago, Sex Machine Gun said:

I'm really glad this issue about women wrestlers came up honestly because there's something that's starting to bother me and I don't know why:

Asking this and I hope no one feels attacked or thinks the worst about me, but why the fuck are Joshi fans so fucking weird? 

I mean, I get being a superfan, obsessed with wrestling, all that. For some reason though, when it comes to specifically Japanese womens wrestling, there's an extra level of defensiveness/loyalty/photodumping.

If you happen to enjoy a certain promotion/regional wrestling that's fine but lord if Joshi fans don't seem like the most rabid diehards. Questioning anything or being underwhelmed by someone invites a level of vitriol nowhere near critiques of other women's *or* men's wrestling. 

I won't go so far as to say it's sinister or a fetish but there's a level of devotion that I simply cannot fathom. 

Again, I'm just noting a thing I've noticed in online circles. I do not mean to personally attack anyone and if this is out of bounds and creating a nonexistent issue please tell me.

(that I even worry enough about backlash to pre-emptively clarify what I mean should say something)

Read the last few posts regarding some dude trying to kiss Saraya, and then make it a niche of the niche of wrestling and you'll be as close to the answer as you'll get without actually doing the research.  The further you get from the mainstream the weirder people get.  If you are in the United States, people look at you like you're weird for liking wrestling.  People think you're even more weird if you like any wrestling that isn't WWE.  People think you are super weird if you like wrestling from another country.  People might assume you're a pervert if you like women's wrestling.  But, if you like women's wrestling, that isn't WWE, and isn't based in the United States, you might end up on a watchlist.  Here's the thing, you might be normal and resent the implications, but the more you look around you see that you might be an outlier.

7 minutes ago, supremebve said:

Read the last few posts regarding some dude trying to kiss Saraya, and then make it a niche of the niche of wrestling and you'll be as close to the answer as you'll get without actually doing the research.  The further you get from the mainstream the weirder people get.  If you are in the United States, people look at you like you're weird for liking wrestling.  People think you're even more weird if you like any wrestling that isn't WWE.  People think you are super weird if you like wrestling from another country.  People might assume you're a pervert if you like women's wrestling.  But, if you like women's wrestling, that isn't WWE, and isn't based in the United States, you might end up on a watchlist.  Here's the thing, you might be normal and resent the implications, but the more you look around you see that you might be an outlier.

A watchlist? What? 

19 minutes ago, Sex Machine Gun said:

I'm really glad this issue about women wrestlers came up honestly because there's something that's starting to bother me and I don't know why:

Asking this and I hope no one feels attacked or thinks the worst about me, but why the fuck are Joshi fans so fucking weird? 

I mean, I get being a superfan, obsessed with wrestling, all that. For some reason though, when it comes to specifically Japanese womens wrestling, there's an extra level of defensiveness/loyalty/photodumping.

If you happen to enjoy a certain promotion/regional wrestling that's fine but lord if Joshi fans don't seem like the most rabid diehards. Questioning anything or being underwhelmed by someone invites a level of vitriol nowhere near critiques of other women's *or* men's wrestling. 

I won't go so far as to say it's sinister or a fetish but there's a level of devotion that I simply cannot fathom. 

Again, I'm just noting a thing I've noticed in online circles. I do not mean to personally attack anyone and if this is out of bounds and creating a nonexistent issue please tell me.

(that I even worry enough about backlash to pre-emptively clarify what I mean should say something)

I will say that in my experience, it's about... I dunno, 90/10 non-creeps to creeps, but the creeps are so vocally creepy they massively outweigh the non-creeps (and I don't blame folks for thinking that the creeps are the predominant part of the audience considering how creepy they are). Nobody cares about the other people in the audience when there's a guy with a SLR taking close-up shots of people's butts that needs to be kicked the heck out right the heck now.

It also doesn't help that they're terminally online so for every hundred or so creep posts, you get one or two rational one.

5 minutes ago, Stefanie Sparkleface said:

I will say that in my experience, it's about... I dunno, 90/10 non-creeps to creeps, but the creeps are so vocally creepy they massively outweigh the non-creeps (and I don't blame folks for thinking that the creeps are the predominant part of the audience considering how creepy they are). Nobody cares about the other people in the audience when there's a guy with a SLR taking close-up shots of people's butts that needs to be kicked the heck out right the heck now.

It also doesn't help that they're terminally online so for every hundred or so creep posts, you get one or two rational one.

This is a big one.  When a niche is only really visible online, there is no telling how many people are lurking and reading about a subject in comparison to the people who never shut up about the subject online.  The people who post are always the vocal minority.  Your entire opinion on who these people are will always be skewed by the vocal weirdos.

 

33 minutes ago, Sex Machine Gun said:

A watchlist? What? 

A joke that I assumed was pretty obvious.  It's just that once you get away from the mainstream, the more likely you'll be surrounded by weirdos.

there's probably a huge venn diagram overlap between the people way into Saraya/Paige and people who were way into emo/goth/scene girls in the 2000s (or the 2010s evolutions of that) so that group of 'interesting' men is maybe a little distinct from people who have went all-in on their Asian fetish