Curt McGirt Posted March 22 Posted March 22 When thinking of stunting on an opponent I was immediately reminded of the Bob Backlund keylock pickup where he just sat his opponent on the top rope after carrying them like a ball of humanity with his freak strength. That was always nuts. 4
Curt McGirt Posted March 22 Posted March 22 Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGo2GhDeO30&ab_channel=ClassicWrestlingstuff
Niners Fan in CT Posted March 22 Posted March 22 15 hours ago, odessasteps said: It seems like a bunch of people did the long vertical suplex. Was Davey the guy who would also do knee bends while holding a guy in the vertical supLex position? I don't know but he definitely launched himself all the way back on those verticals much like Bret used to. It gives the illusion of a much bigger impact when the person who is doing the suplex is also crashing into the mat. 1
porksweats Posted March 22 Posted March 22 10 hours ago, Curt McGirt said: When thinking of stunting on an opponent I was immediately reminded of the Bob Backlund keylock pickup where he just sat his opponent on the top rope after carrying them like a ball of humanity with his freak strength. That was always nuts. The keylock and lift is something I always lose my mind for when I'm watching old Backlund matches and hope more wrestlers today would bust it out. I think Statlander has in the past. 1
Curt McGirt Posted March 22 Posted March 22 I want to say Yuki Ishikawa used to do it. Somebody in Japan. Of course he only wrestles once in a blue moon in those infamous Punch Your Face and Kick Your Head matches with Ikeda. 1
Elsalvajeloco Posted March 22 Posted March 22 Speaking of that, has anyone ever done a cagematch or profightdb tally of most matches with each other? Ishikawa/Ikeda would be up there. WWF probably have their own bracket cause of their house show system back in the day. Mexico would have their own bracket as well.
Cobra Commander Posted March 22 Posted March 22 12 hours ago, odessasteps said: the video building up this match was also a good one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-3JCODSpu0&pp=ygUQbWlkIHNvdXRoIHR1eGVkbw%3D%3D
Stefanie Sparkleface Posted March 22 Posted March 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, Elsalvajeloco said: Speaking of that, has anyone ever done a cagematch or profightdb tally of most matches with each other? Ishikawa/Ikeda would be up there. WWF probably have their own bracket cause of their house show system back in the day. Mexico would have their own bracket as well. Probably some variation of Ricky Morton vs Bobby Eaton, considering Memphis, Midnights vs Rock n Rolls, and indies. EDIT: Ran it for funsies! Cagematch has Morton and Eaton in 453 matches together over their career. That sure is a lot. That also doesn't factor in that Cagematch's Memphis tracking is a bit spotty, too. Edited March 22 by Stefanie Sparkleface 1
odessasteps Posted March 22 Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Elsalvajeloco said: Speaking of that, has anyone ever done a cagematch or profightdb tally of most matches with each other? Ishikawa/Ikeda would be up there. WWF probably have their own bracket cause of their house show system back in the day. Mexico would have their own bracket as well. Al Getz did something about that a few years ago, but I don’t remember if he included Japan and Mexico. I think many of the obvious choices were discusssed (Bobo v sheik, lawler v Dundee, …). 1
Cobra Commander Posted March 22 Posted March 22 one fun thing from the WWE Vault posting a WCW Manchester house show from 1993, introducing people to spots that can pretty much only work at house shows.. because a multi-minute build to a test of strength spot works better on a house show hell, having the various 5'10/200lb guys doing tests of strength against each other could be one way to kick off some more spotzzzz
Peck Posted March 22 Posted March 22 2 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said: Speaking of that, has anyone ever done a cagematch or profightdb tally of most matches with each other? Ishikawa/Ikeda would be up there. WWF probably have their own bracket cause of their house show system back in the day. Mexico would have their own bracket as well. Snuka/Metal Maniac? 2 3
Cobra Commander Posted March 23 Posted March 23 from HistoryOfWWE, 1/1/96 Nitro Quote Hulk Hogan defeated WCW World Champion Ric Flair via disqualification at 7:55 when Hogan knocked down an interfering Arn Anderson and pulled Anderson’s foreign object out of his own trunks, moments after Hogan knocked an interfering Jimmy Hart off the apron; after the bout, the Giant appeared as Hogan had Flair, Anderson, Chris Benoit, and Brian Pillman begging off; as the Giant attempted to assault the Giant with a stool, Randy Savage came out, grabbed the stool away, and helped clear the ring; moments later, Zodiac kept the Giant from going back to the ring – despite Sullivan’s orders – by saying “Friend” and “Hurt” toward Hogan and Savage; after the commercial break, Gene Okerlund conducted an in-ring interview with Hogan and Savage in which Hogan challenged Flair & Anderson for a tag team match the following week and Savage alluded to having a secret weapon in their arsenol; Hogan was booed during the segment suspect that's a typo
Johnny Sorrow Posted March 23 Posted March 23 4 hours ago, Cobra Commander said: from HistoryOfWWE, 1/1/96 Nitro suspect that's a typo No, he actually took a dump shaped like a stool. It was a hat on a hat
Gorman Posted March 23 Posted March 23 15 hours ago, Peck said: Snuka/Metal Maniac? One weekend in 1996, I announced three of those bouts in three different states. 2 1 4
Happ Hazzard Posted March 23 Posted March 23 16 hours ago, odessasteps said: Al Getz did something about that a few years ago, but I don’t remember if he included Japan and Mexico. I think many of the obvious choices were discusssed (Bobo v sheik, lawler v Dundee, …). We did this on Wrestling Classics a couple of years ago. These are the most common pairings that were found: Haruku Eigen vs Rusher Kimura - 1473 Mitsuo Momota vs Haruku Eigen - 1338 Masa Fuchi vs Mitsuo Momota – 933 Masa Fuchi vs Risher Kimura - 901 Giant Baba vs Haruku Eigen – 806 Giant Baba vs Masa Fuchi – 654 Johnny Weaver vs Swede Hanson - 569 Akira Taue vs Mitsuharu Misawa – 554 Ultimo Guerrero vs Atlantis - 525 Ultimo Guerrero vs Mistico - 474 Giant Baba vs Abdullah the Butcher - 457 Bobby Eaton vs Ricky Morton – 481 Bobby Eaton vs Robert Gibson - 463 Johnny Weaver vs. Gene Anderson - 442 Akira Taue vs Kenta Kobashi – 429 Ultimo Guerrero vs Volador Jr. - 429 Ric Flair vs Wahoo McDaniel - 414 Jumbo Tsuruta vs Stan Hansen - 351 Mitsuharu Misawa vs Toshiaki Kawada – 342 Ric Flair vs Dusty Rhodes - 344 Tony Garea vs Mr. Fuji - 336 Dr Wagner Jr. vs Atlantis - 302 Baron Mikel Scicluna vs Dominic DeNucci - 296 Kenta Kobashi vs Toshiaki Kawada – 294 Andre the Giant vs Big John Studd - 292 Ricky Steamboat vs Greg Valentine - 291 Wahoo McDaniel vs Greg Valentine - 290 Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat - 288 Bret Hart vs Dynamite Kid – 286 Ric Flair vs Sting - 281 Jerry Lawler vs Bill Dundee - 279 Tojo Yamamoto vs Al Greene – 278 Ric Flair vs Paul Jones - 277 John Cena vs Randy Orton - 267 Dick Togo vs Super Delfin - 261 Chief Jay Strongbow vs Mr. Fuji - 260 Bobby Eaton vs Bobby Fulton - 259 Wahoo McDaniel vs Johnny Valentine - 255 Nick Bockwinkel vs Billy Robinson 248 Tito Santana vs Greg Valentine - 247 Ric Flair vs Lex Luger - 240 Bret Hart vs Jacques Rougeau - 239 Triple H vs Randy Orton - 236 Nick Bockwinkel vs Greg Gagne 234 Nick Bockwinkel vs The Crusher 230 Barry Windham vs Lex Luger 227 Dick Togo vs Great Sasuke - 223 Bobby Eaton vs Tommy Rogers - 220 Ric Flair vs Roddy Piper - 218 Mitsuharu Misawa vs Kenta Kobashi – 218 Bret Hart vs Davey Boy Smith - 211 Edge vs Jeff Hardy - 209 Bruno Sammartino vs Gorilla Monsoon - 207 Harley Race vs Rufus R. Jones - 207 Baron Mikel Scicluna vs Tony Parisi - 206 Kofi Kingston vs the Miz - 206 Randy Savage vs Ron Garvin - 204 Ric Flair vs Greg Valentine - 202 Akira Taue vs Toshiaki Kawada - 172 1
The Natural Posted March 23 Author Posted March 23 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lwZejxrwwHo "What the hell? Use the bell!" 1
odessasteps Posted March 23 Posted March 23 Apparently, there was once a NWA worlds title match in Hazard KY between Harley and Stan. I bet they’d have live that.
Curt McGirt Posted March 23 Posted March 23 (edited) Yeah. I was under the impression from his book that they just wrestled each other for literal years at every Detroit show or any NON-Detroit show Sheik was at. Especially after he burned Mushnick and became an NWA outcast. Edited March 23 by Curt McGirt
The Comedian Posted March 23 Posted March 23 4 hours ago, Gorman said: One weekend in 1996, I announced three of those bouts in three different states. I didn't think they were still going in '96. I think of them as an early 90's thing, like Tony Stetson and Tommy Cairo... 1
odessasteps Posted March 23 Posted March 23 Maniac was Snuka’s driver, right? (Handler?) so that makes logistical sense. 1
Dolfan in NYC Posted March 23 Posted March 23 SRS is reporting that Finn Balor was originally scheduled to go over Edge at Mania. Apparently Vince changed his mind and had Edge win. The reporting is weird because it says "creative had The Demon winning" but Vince "pushed hard for Edge" to go over. But... wasn't Vince "creative"? Just odd. (Of course, the wording has not gone unnoticed and everyone is accusing Cope of leaking this. Which would be fucking hilarious.) 1
Cliff Hanger Posted March 23 Posted March 23 5 hours ago, Happ Hazzard said: We did this on Wrestling Classics a couple of years ago. These are the most common pairings that were found: Haruku Eigen vs Rusher Kimura - 1473 Mitsuo Momota vs Haruku Eigen - 1338 Masa Fuchi vs Mitsuo Momota – 933 Masa Fuchi vs Risher Kimura - 901 Giant Baba vs Haruku Eigen – 806 Giant Baba vs Masa Fuchi – 654 Johnny Weaver vs Swede Hanson - 569 Akira Taue vs Mitsuharu Misawa – 554 Ultimo Guerrero vs Atlantis - 525 Ultimo Guerrero vs Mistico - 474 Giant Baba vs Abdullah the Butcher - 457 Bobby Eaton vs Ricky Morton – 481 Bobby Eaton vs Robert Gibson - 463 Johnny Weaver vs. Gene Anderson - 442 Akira Taue vs Kenta Kobashi – 429 Ultimo Guerrero vs Volador Jr. - 429 Ric Flair vs Wahoo McDaniel - 414 Jumbo Tsuruta vs Stan Hansen - 351 Mitsuharu Misawa vs Toshiaki Kawada – 342 Ric Flair vs Dusty Rhodes - 344 Tony Garea vs Mr. Fuji - 336 Dr Wagner Jr. vs Atlantis - 302 Baron Mikel Scicluna vs Dominic DeNucci - 296 Kenta Kobashi vs Toshiaki Kawada – 294 Andre the Giant vs Big John Studd - 292 Ricky Steamboat vs Greg Valentine - 291 Wahoo McDaniel vs Greg Valentine - 290 Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat - 288 Bret Hart vs Dynamite Kid – 286 Ric Flair vs Sting - 281 Jerry Lawler vs Bill Dundee - 279 Tojo Yamamoto vs Al Greene – 278 Ric Flair vs Paul Jones - 277 John Cena vs Randy Orton - 267 Dick Togo vs Super Delfin - 261 Chief Jay Strongbow vs Mr. Fuji - 260 Bobby Eaton vs Bobby Fulton - 259 Wahoo McDaniel vs Johnny Valentine - 255 Nick Bockwinkel vs Billy Robinson 248 Tito Santana vs Greg Valentine - 247 Ric Flair vs Lex Luger - 240 Bret Hart vs Jacques Rougeau - 239 Triple H vs Randy Orton - 236 Nick Bockwinkel vs Greg Gagne 234 Nick Bockwinkel vs The Crusher 230 Barry Windham vs Lex Luger 227 Dick Togo vs Great Sasuke - 223 Bobby Eaton vs Tommy Rogers - 220 Ric Flair vs Roddy Piper - 218 Mitsuharu Misawa vs Kenta Kobashi – 218 Bret Hart vs Davey Boy Smith - 211 Edge vs Jeff Hardy - 209 Bruno Sammartino vs Gorilla Monsoon - 207 Harley Race vs Rufus R. Jones - 207 Baron Mikel Scicluna vs Tony Parisi - 206 Kofi Kingston vs the Miz - 206 Randy Savage vs Ron Garvin - 204 Ric Flair vs Greg Valentine - 202 Akira Taue vs Toshiaki Kawada - 172 I am genuinely surprised that there are more Edge vs Matt Hardy matches than Big Daddy vs Giant Haystacks.
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