The Natural Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 5 hours ago, Overly Critical Man said: Eddie would be my choice as well, but that injury happened for him at the worst possible time. Do we even know when he’s coming back? No. With what Eddie Kingston's done: a tibial fracture, a torn ACL, and a torn mensicus, my guess it'll be at least a year or even over.
Godfrey Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 (edited) Not to belabor the point BUT I was flippant about the Punk stuff because to really continue that discussion I would have to tear down Adam Page and I don't want to. I think he's doing great and improved quite a lot over the past year or so. My stance is while it is possible to learn through trial and error instead of taking advice, that doesn't mean the Hangman of yesteryear couldn't have used a few tips that would have got him here sooner. And all of their problems came out of Page going rogue on a live in-ring promo with Punk because of locker room misinformation so I'm not sure who was more unprofessional there (that or Punk's 'coward shit' promo). Anyway, Page rules, Punk rules, wrestling rules. That's where I'm at Edited February 21, 2025 by Godfrey
Technico Support Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 (edited) On 2/19/2025 at 6:50 PM, JLowe said: It’s not my kink but if Toni has any say in it there would absolutely be a foot spot with the scene marker board. Guest directed by Quentin Tarantino! 21 hours ago, Craig H said: I've been saying it for about forever now, but Hangman needs to be the one to dethrone Moxley. Darby has fucked off to the other side of the planet and can't be trusted with his body. Do you really want to do THIS long of a build, put the title on Darby, and then risk him getting injured in the match or soon after? I know he hasn't suffered any major injuries yet, but he has punched more holes on his bump card faster than anyone else I can remember at this high of a level. Even faster than the Hardys. Anyone can get injured at any time, but if you're doing this long of a build, I'd go with the safer bet in Hangman. Plus, Hangman is ridiculously over and as I have said on here, as many others have said on here, and as has been said meow on AEW TV, HE IS THE MAIN CHARACTER. You already teased him going after Moxley, hell, he's thrown hands with Moxley... And since MJF referenced the first Double or Nothing, STRAP UP HANGMAN AT DOUBLE OR NOTHING. Send a maniac to catch a maniac and all that. I will always appreciate a good Demolition Man reference! 16 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said: I promise this isn't a post shitting on CM Punk but wasn't Hangman the guy that Punk said "didn't want to listen, didn't respect the veterans advice" and all that stuff? I can make an argument that Hangman has been 10x more interesting over the past year than Punk has in WWE. Just funny to think about. Maybe Hangman didn't need your advice. And Hangman didn’t even really say he didn’t want to take advice! Not in the way Punk made it sound. Just Thin Skinned Phil being himself. 14 hours ago, HarryArchieGus said: Incredibly disappointing production decision to shoot towards the screen/stage. It looked like a pandemic era show during the matches. From pictures online, the venue looks like a neat building, but it wasn't evident from how they shot it. I noticed that! I didn’t mind it but it absolutely did make the place look smaller. Megan Bayne’s tan is an 11 on the 1988 Hulk Hogan scale and it’s really off-putting. Edited February 21, 2025 by Technico Support 3
Curt McGirt Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 5 hours ago, ExcellenceofAirPollution said: Just weird, backwards, superfluous booking.... The problem is if they stack these matches in a certain way it could possibly give away who wins and who loses.
tbarrie Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 7 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: The problem is if they stack these matches in a certain way it could possibly give away who wins and who loses. Moreso than the current setup? I'd say it's already pretty obvious we'll be getting Omega vs Takeshita at the PPV. How would arranging things differently telegraph more than that? 1
SovietShooter Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 I'm not so sure we aren't getting Orange vs Omega. That's the only way this makes any sense.
Curt McGirt Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 I think they are trying to make it look like there will be some surprise wins, but if the outcome isn't in doubt, what's the point in making it confusing. This isn't the Continental Classic.
Curt McGirt Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 Maffew posted the chair... whatever on Facebook and GOD it is embarassingly long and unpleasant. 2
tbarrie Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 55 minutes ago, SovietShooter said: I'm not so sure we aren't getting Orange vs Omega. That's the only way this makes any sense. Look, I love AEW, but basing your expectations on the assumption that their booking decisions make sense is a road to disappointment.
NoFistsJustFlips Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 11 hours ago, Casey said: Punk is the reason AEW is only getting 500k in the ratings two years after he left, brother! I know you said this in jest but it's kind of true. AEW lost face as a brand. The stink of handling the situation poorly stayed with people and I do think it was a lot of people's jump off point to get out. They just really haven't gained any momentum since. So it's not like 'Punk bad' and that's why AEW is doing bad. It's more like 'the Punk debacle was soooo bad' people gave up on AEW. 3
Technico Support Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 @Dolfan in NYC I would have also accepted: Born to Outrun Outrunnin’ with the Devil Always on the Outrun Take it on the Outrun Outrunning with the Night 1
Dolfan in NYC Posted February 21, 2025 Author Posted February 21, 2025 32 minutes ago, Technico Support said: @Dolfan in NYC I would have also accepted: Born to Outrun Outrunnin’ with the Devil Always on the Outrun Take it on the Outrun Outrunning with the Night I make more people mad with Bryan Adams. 2
Technico Support Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 2 minutes ago, Dolfan in NYC said: I make more people mad with Bryan Adams. I liked his early work, you know, Crush? When he hit that Kronik phase, I tuned out. 1 3
Shartnado Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 (edited) 6 hours ago, Technico Support said: Megan Bayne’s tan is an 11 on the 1988 Hulk Hogan scale and it’s really off-putting. Dude, stop thinking about Hulk Hogan when Megan Bayne is on screen! Or, well, in general. Edited February 21, 2025 by Shartnado Duuh 1 5
TheVileOne Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 In the interest of being fair, does anyone know what the heck happened with Thunder Rosa running in with the chair and then just standing there in front of Megan Bayne and Penelope Ford? I suppose it's possible that what took place was miscommunication and possible inexperience on such segments. Others are saying that Bayne and Ford were intentionally trying to make Rosa look bad. But maybe they didn't want to look "weak" by running away. Either way, it was awkward. It's possible it was simply a communication issue and not everyone knew what to do. I'm assuming Rosa wouldn't want to just whack them with a chair if she wasn't supposed to. 1
odessasteps Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 (edited) I saw it as a talking point on a lot of videos today. Didn’t watch any of them but the more click Baity of them were playing up the “double cross/sandbag” aspect toward Rosa in their titles. Edited February 21, 2025 by odessasteps 1
Niners Fan in CT Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 (edited) 5 hours ago, NoFistsJustFlips said: So it's not like 'Punk bad' and that's why AEW is doing bad. It's more like 'the Punk debacle was soooo bad' people gave up on AEW. This isn't the ratings thread but I'll just say that roughly 600k + whatever they do on Max is not terrible. They have a couple things working in their favor. They have a great roster right now where a lot of acts are over and interesting and they have a TV contract that's good for another 3-4 years. Plenty of time to put together some sustained success. People forget that after the first episode of Collision the ratings started to fall off dramatically and the attendance for some of those early Collisions were terrible and that was with Punk as the lead on the show. Again, not a post shitting on Punk, I'm just stating the facts of the matter. Punk vs. Joe was super hyped up by AEW and it ended up doing like 2400 fans. Edited February 21, 2025 by Niners Fan in CT 1
twiztor Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 On 2/19/2025 at 9:33 PM, Curt McGirt said: It was probably just Rosa fucking up again but that wouldn't be fair to say... right? 19 hours ago, HarryArchieGus said: The Rosa run-in was her usual nonsense. genuinely asking, but how can you see that segment as Rosa being in the wrong? the two heels should have bailed as soon as the face shows up with a chair. we've all seen it 100s of times. they didn't beg off, they didn't cower, they didn't back down whatsoever. in kayfabe Rosa looks like an idiot for threatening to hit them and then not following through, but in the real world Bayne and Ford should not have been standing tall. 5 1
Casey Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 31 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: This isn't the ratings thread but I'll just say that roughly 600k + whatever they do on Max is not terrible. They have a couple things working in their favor. They have a great roster right now where a lot of acts are over and interesting and they have a TV contract that's good for another 3-4 years. Plenty of time to put together some sustained success. People forget that after the first episode of Collision the ratings started to fall off dramatically and the attendance for some of those early Collisions were terrible and that was with Punk as the lead on the show. Again, not a post shitting on Punk, I'm just stating the facts of the matter. Punk vs. Joe was super hyped up by AEW and it ended up doing like 2400 fans. Punk was on 9 episodes of Collision, and from just a quick glance at attendance figures versus Dynamite that same week - most of the time, Collision had more people there. A few times Dynamite did, a big example is Blood & Guts. A few times it was within a few hundred people, leaning either way. If Collision’s attendance in the early days was terrible, then so was Dynamite, which was being headlined by… what, MJF at the time, I think? I can’t remember. Punk boosted ratings and attendance for a short time for Collision, but he was only back for around 2 months before getting fired. Which ultimately leads us back around to… 5 hours ago, NoFistsJustFlips said: I know you said this in jest but it's kind of true. AEW lost face as a brand. The stink of handling the situation poorly stayed with people and I do think it was a lot of people's jump off point to get out. They just really haven't gained any momentum since. So it's not like 'Punk bad' and that's why AEW is doing bad. It's more like 'the Punk debacle was soooo bad' people gave up on AEW. Another way to look at it is that AEW lost its biggest name and took a lot of fans with him. I know a lot of people aren’t ready for that conversation, but it’s true. All Out 2021 didn’t do their biggest buyrate to this day (right?) off the back of Kenny Omega versus Christian, that’s for sure. But I’m a dirty, filthy Punk apologist so YMMV
Niners Fan in CT Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 Counter: AEW when it was in it's regular Wednesday timeslot was regularly doing 1.0-1.1 million viewers BEFORE CM Punk arrived on August 20, 2021. Ratings didn't increase from there, they stayed about the same. Sure, he was a big name for the brand and a lot of people tuned in initially to see him but there was no evidence of a huge new batch on AEW fans who are now "gone" because Punk was fired. 2
Casey Posted February 22, 2025 Posted February 22, 2025 23 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: Counter: AEW when it was in it's regular Wednesday timeslot was regularly doing 1.0-1.1 million viewers BEFORE CM Punk arrived on August 20, 2021. Ratings didn't increase from there, they stayed about the same. Sure, he was a big name for the brand and a lot of people tuned in initially to see him but there was no evidence of a huge new batch on AEW fans who are now "gone" because Punk was fired. What? Dynamite pulled 1m viewers or more ELEVEN times since 2019 before that Rampage episode with Punk aired. After Punk (and Danielson & Cole after All Out), Dynamite did 7 straight episodes over a million. 1
Technico Support Posted February 22, 2025 Posted February 22, 2025 Following up on a @Casey post from a few days ago…it’s being reported Max will upload all AEW PPVs and events through 2024 March 1. 4
Stefanie Sparkleface Posted February 22, 2025 Posted February 22, 2025 4 hours ago, Dolfan in NYC said: I make more people mad with Bryan Adams. Plus you can't stop this thing you started.
Niners Fan in CT Posted February 22, 2025 Posted February 22, 2025 40 minutes ago, Casey said: What? Dynamite pulled 1m viewers or more ELEVEN times since 2019 before that Rampage episode with Punk aired. After Punk (and Danielson & Cole after All Out), Dynamite did 7 straight episodes over a million. They were in the midst of like 4-5 straight eps over a million before Punk's debut
Casey Posted February 22, 2025 Posted February 22, 2025 Yeah, the July shows when they returned to touring the country after COVID. But that’s still not “regularly doing 1m viewers”. I guess that’s my issue, lol. They hadn’t hit that benchmark for three months before the July shows, and before that, to find shows where they hit that mark or went above you’d have to go back to 2019. The fact is, ratings DID increase after Punk and others debuted. The Dynamite before he debuted that week did 975, then shot up to over a million the following week and stayed there for a month. But then they dropped, again.
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