27 minutes ago, Craig H said:

What wrestling needs is a special service that just shows you the finishes for all matches happening at one time.

That’s my +10 button on Triller

9 hours ago, SovietShooter said:

Yeah, what they should've done, before the Mox/Darby confrontation, is have Daniels or someone announce that because of the attack, Danielson was not cleared to wrestle at this time.  That would've cleared the way for Darby to put his title shot up against Mox, because he wanted to wait until Danielson was healed up. 

Then they could've just had Nigel do his bit, but lean a little more into saying that he knows Danielson isn't really that hurt, he is just a coward. 

2 hours ago, SovietShooter said:

No, I think you got it.  I think most of us on here understood this.

But I think to people that are used to their angles being spoonfed, they can't wrap their head around something just being heavily implied.

I'm pleased they took the less spoonfed route. It led to some great promos - Nigel's Collision promo included. It also felt more innate (in this chaotic environment caused by the BCC) than any standard Sports Entertainment/spelled out versions seemingly would have. It's surprising that the pretty basic math, and I'd say soft implications of the character, things we clearly know about all the characters involved, would confuse a regular viewer. That said, there's a reason why the number 1 company hammers every detail over and over and over ad nauseam. 

Edited September 17, 20242 yr by HarryArchieGus
nauseam, not nauseum

4 hours ago, SovietShooter said:

No, I think you got it.  I think most of us on here understood this.

But I think to people that are used to their angles being spoonfed, they can't wrap their head around something just being heavily implied.

 

11 hours ago, HarryArchieGus said:

I didn't need Darby to spell it out. 

Quote. First, why would anybody assume Mox is correct about Danielson not coming back or being ready for Grandslam? Do we also believe him when he says 'I'm gonna need you to hand that title shot over to me' as some sort of 'Fact'? He's a heel who believes he's put Danielson on the shelf for longer than he will be (it's a pretty regular heel trope). Further, Darby Allin has been hearing Mox call him out for weeks. Darby logically assumes Danielson couldn't possibly be 100% by Arthur Ashe. Of course he doesn't wanna win that way. It's no leap that he wants to avenge the Danielson attempted murder and take out Mox. He'd take the Moxley challenge without it. He admires him, or did, and knows if Jon challenges him then he has to accept. To Darby, Mox is definitely A, if not thee, measuring stick. Then we go to the back, Daniels reiterrates what a risk this is for Darby followed by Nigel, the heel-weasel that he is, taking advantage of the situation. A couple quarter hours later, he comes out with a contract and annouces a match that couldn't possibly be signed... yet. Excalibur on commentary says 'will Danielson even be able to compete?' Nigel closes with 'will Bryan Danielson join me or have we seen the last match of the 'American Coward'. Balls in your court'. It seems to me the match awaits an inevitable signature and doctor's clearance. Unquote.

Have I missed something?

AEW didn't book some great subtle angle but forget to "spoonfeed" and it's offensive to classify anyone who disagrees as some kind of moron who needs to be handheld.  Why would authority figure Daniels give Nigel a contract to wrestle a guy who isn't cleared?  That specifically is where anyone defending this convoluted mess loses credibility.  Moxley is an unreliable narrator and Nigel is a blowhard making a match against an injured person.  Cool.  But why is Daniels going along with it?  Jack Tunney never did anything that stupid.  If you can make something up to defend that, you're just spackling logic holes.

Edited September 17, 20242 yr by Technico Support

5 hours ago, Technico Support said:

 

AEW didn't book some great subtle angle but forget to "spoonfeed" and it's offensive to classify anyone who disagrees as some kind of moron who needs to be handheld.  Why would authority figure Daniels give Nigel a contract to wrestle a guy who isn't cleared?  That specifically is where anyone defending this convoluted mess loses credibility.  Moxley is an unreliable narrator and Nigel is a blowhard making a match against an injured person.  Cool.  But why is Daniels going along with it?  Jack Tunney never did anything that stupid.  If you can make something up to defend that, you're just spackling logic holes.

Things have certainly changed since 1986. Ha, it seems pretty ridiculous to compare an angle involving an authority figure in 2024 to Tunney, but I like it nonetheless. Okay, so first, Daniels didn’t give anyone a contract. Let’s be clear, maybe it doesn’t change anything for your 'embarrassing' logic, Tony Khan gave Nigel the contract as he clearly stated in his promo. A pending contract for a potential huge money match, that Khan assumes has a pretty good chance of happening, doesn’t feel like quite the ‘embarrassing’ stretch to me. Perhaps you've missed some other details? 

Edited September 17, 20242 yr by HarryArchieGus

So either Nigel intimidated Khan into giving him a match contract for a match that cannot happen (believable) or Khan had been in contact with Brian, knew he was expected to be cleared in time for the match, and tricked Nigel into thinking he'd pulled a masterstroke (also believable).

50 minutes ago, AxB said:

So either Nigel intimidated Khan into giving him a match contract for a match that cannot happen (believable) or Khan had been in contact with Brian, knew he was expected to be cleared in time for the match, and tricked Nigel into thinking he'd pulled a masterstroke (also believable).

Bingo!

 

On 9/16/2024 at 10:03 AM, Technico Support said:

It’s sad that Rampage and Collision have become such afterthoughts.  I still haven't even finished Collision from Saturday yet.

I haven't started Rampage and Collision from 9/6 yet. They have more skippable and ff material on their shows this year. I have erased a couple of shows when I fell three weeks behind watching. I'm starting to think that I just don't like English language TV wrestling anymore. 

They also have way too many wrestlers. I haven't gone to see them because I don't know if the wrestlers I like will be on the show. 

We went to the NJPW show in DC just to see Hechicero and Virus. 

20 hours ago, AxB said:

I dunno why the NFL has so many televised games a week. How are people supposed to keep up with the league when there's games on Thursday Night, Sunday Afternoon, Sunday Evening, Sunday Night AND Monday Night? It's too much! That's like 15 hours of live matches a week!

FWIW I also have no idea how someone watches so much football in a given week, but I'm also a Giants (and Rutgers) fan so... 😰

That said if someone could make the equivalent of a wrestling box score for various promotions where I can get all the relevant info within 15 to 20 seconds of browsing I'd be very grateful, probably the only way at this point I'll ever figure out what's happening in TNA again >_>