AEW TV - 7/24 - 7/30/2024 - Under A Blood Red Skye

[Infinit]

I thought that all in all, the show was pretty great. 

But

I think the heels kind of ended up looking babyface-ish at the end. Perry refusing to quit. Matt sacrificing the match for the health of his teammate. 

Liked Kamille being Mercedes' muscle. But I kind of wish that spot would have gone to Megan Bayne.

Was watching the show in bits and pieces tonight, looking forward to rewatching it in one sitting tomorrow night.

[Cobra Commander]

2 hours ago, Peck said:

I think Darby had trouble finding the "gasoline" under the ring. You could see him talking to Bryce and freaking out before he finally emerged with it.

so what's the best worked gasoline these days? diluted apple juice/cider? (one of you knows the difference between juice and cider)

[Go2Sleep]

Agree all 10 guys brought it to offset the lackluster build. All of Swerve's stuff was executed well, especially the staple gun party. They went to great lengths to demonstrate Hangman is definitely not with the Elite. The Acclaimed ditched the comedy and upped the violence. Mark Briscoe despite not fitting into the story, showed that experience with this kind of stuff goes a long way and was the MVP of the match. The whole babyface team came out looking strong.

[Cobra Commander]

I joked to myself during the Jarrett cameo that Jeff was gonna hit the handcuff with his guitar to free Swerve if not for Cutler getting in the way

but there has to be some sort of ending one day to the Bucks having any sort of evil EVP powers, right? we're now through 2 stip matches and they still have vague powers.

[The Natural]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ArLH14smkE0

Bryan Danielson and Jeff Jarrett.

[The Natural]

Tried going on cagematch for the match times of all four Blood & Guts but not there. Does anybody have them please?

[stuntmanc]

7 hours ago, Jenalysis said:

 

The only thing is they've done so much to each other, where can they go to up the stakes?  Loser leaves AEW is like the only real escalation I can think that's left unless you want to get into total Memphis ridiculousness that should be kept in the past.

That was my thought as well.  I really think that they both should have an earned, well done, basic cage match.  Sort of a "no man can escape, two men enter sort of deal"  The Texas Death Match they did really upped the ante on violence, but I think they could do wonders with simplicity.  Give Hangman a wooden spike and let us get Sullivan/Kanemura

[Casey]

The blowoff for Hangman/Swerve should be the return of the exploding barbwire deathmatch, but actually have the ending look good this time.

[The Natural]

10 minutes ago, Casey said:

The blowoff for Hangman/Swerve should be the return of the exploding barbwire deathmatch, but actually have the ending look good this time.

I was hoping they'd bring that back. We haven't had a barbed wire match in two years either.

[Steventon]

Give us the Darby Allin & Mark Briscoe wildcard tag team we all deserve

[stuntmanc]

13 minutes ago, Casey said:

The blowoff for Hangman/Swerve should be the return of the exploding barbwire deathmatch, but actually have the ending look good this time.

If they could internally guarantee we get the payoff we deserve from that sort of match, I'm in.  I will say I fear for Hangman/Swerve because who knows what they would do.  I always have imagined them on a guys day out before the Texas Death Match just casually talking about "Hey I'll drink your blood" at a nice restaurant at lunch.

[Mike Campbell]

I've never been a big fan of the whole staple gun thing. But, I laughed pretty good when Okada told Swerve that he was number one and Swerve stapled him in the bird finger. A buddy of mine was talking about how the women's divison is picking up steam, between the feuds with Willow/Stat, Toni/Mariah, and now Kamille being a heater for Mercedes. It just makes me that much more sad that both Julia Hart and Skye Blue got hurt when they did. 

 

It also feels like they're just throwing too much out there and can't keep track now.

 

- MJF offers Danny Garcia a match at Wembly

- MJF turns heel on Danny

- Pac cuts a promo for his "Wembly moment"

- Pac wins four way for an International Title shot

- MJF wins International Title

- MJF vs. Ospreay rematch for the title at Wembly

[Zakk_Sabbath]

44 minutes ago, Mike Campbell said:

MJF vs. Ospreay rematch for the title at Wembly

I won't lie, I completely forgot about all of that PAC stuff 'til you mentioned it, and I'm a fan of the man. We got a bit of time yet, maybe we're headed for a three way dance - might be a nice way to avoid the pressure of trying to top the TV match by mixing it up a bit

ETA: the American title thing is just to build heat, correct? Like a play on Ospreay turning the IWGP US into the UK title? That poor belt is always having an identity crisis.

Edited July 25, 2024 by Zakk_Sabbath

[Zakk_Sabbath]

8 hours ago, Infinit said:

I think the heels kind of ended up looking babyface-ish at the end. Perry refusing to quit. Matt sacrificing the match for the health of his teammate. 

Another thing I hadn't considered 'til mentioned - that's an excellent point. Maybe that's another part of why I found the finish a little anti-climactic? I'm sure there will be a lot of fair, good-faith criticism about that here and elsewhere today

[Kevin Wilson]

I liked Blood and Guts a lot, but it also shows that there are still areas that AEW can improve production-wise. Now no promotion/live show is perfect but sometimes little things can make things come off better. At the end of the day, wrestling fans know they are watching a "show" so bending reality a bit to make things more smooth I think is acceptable, and already done in a lot of cases.

For B&G, I thought the end of the match really slowed down too much and took the crowd out of it for a bit when Darby couldn't find the gas can and everyone was just standing around and not ad-libbing. For TV viewing purposes, there wasn't a reason that while the camera was on Perry, that a stage hand couldn't have put the gas can and lighter out by the steps, have Darby grab it off-camera, and just keep the action going. What took 45 seconds should take 5 seconds, and us watching at home wouldn't have even known. Is it a *big* deal? No, they got the same result but its just one of those little things I assume all live productions look at later and find ways to make it better next time.

[EVA]

Perry’s whole thing since coming back as the Scapegoat has been defiance. Of course he’s not gonna quit. It didn’t come off as babyface-ish to me, rather just another example of his petulance.

[Craig H]

Yeah…I don’t know. The only thing that threw me off in that match, other than Nick Jackson just outright disappearing after Bowens went through the tables, was Jack practically no selling a really nasty chair shot. Dude should have been dead after that and be sold it less than stuff earlier in the match. Then his reaction when the match ended was more looking disappointed or tired.

I think if he was thrashing around and was screaming at Mark, like, “DO IT! DO IT! DO IT YOU FUC-“ *WHACK* and then was just dead at that point it would have worked better. But instead he was lucid and and almost looked sad that he now had to face Darby for the TNT title.

Rest of the show was kind of weird with half of the stuff being goofy or not making sense and the other half being great. Like the opening with Will at the hotel when the show has started, the MJF faces on the flag looking like they were drawn by the gig worker in Tires who can draw boobs but can’t draw faces, Britt and Shida having a very awkward match, and Okada just kind of being there were all not great. 

Marvez’s scream though? A+.

[The Natural]

THAT chairshot was nasty. Should have ended the match. There's precedent for WarGames matches to stop by referee stoppage most famously WarGames 1991 when Sid Vicious knocked Brian Pillman out for real.

[Iron Moose]

2 hours ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:

Another thing I hadn't considered 'til mentioned - that's an excellent point. Maybe that's another part of why I found the finish a little anti-climactic? I'm sure there will be a lot of fair, good-faith criticism about that here and elsewhere today

ah, the Dakota Kai War Games precedent.

[Log]

I think that chair that Jack took the shot with was gimmicked. When he came out with it, the seat of it looked different. I'm not 100% sure, but it did catch my eye, and then when it was used for that nasty shot, I was hoping they had done something so it wasn't a full-on head shot.

[The Natural]

24 minutes ago, Log said:

I think that chair that Jack took the shot with was gimmicked. When he came out with it, the seat of it looked different. I'm not 100% sure, but it did catch my eye, and then when it was used for that nasty shot, I was hoping they had done something so it wasn't a full-on head shot.

Caught my eyes the chair was different/gimmicked.

[Zakk_Sabbath]

15 minutes ago, The Natural said:

Caught my eyes the chair was different/gimmicked.

Same, I figured it out once he threw it at Swerve in the opening stretch because I noticed it had his "Scapegoat" logo on it, which I figured was probably a visual signifier to everyone not to use/break it before whatever spot (the old Balls 'n Axl trick)

[AxB]

11 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:

so what's the best worked gasoline these days? diluted apple juice/cider? (one of you knows the difference between juice and cider)

You know what that was? Real Gas! Go cry me a river!!

Pretty sure it was water, actually. It didn't have the shininess that actual petroleum spirit does.

To be honest, I always thought that throughout wrestling history, the staple gun spot has looked rubbish. Generally if you weren't front row ringside, there was no way to see if it was actually loaded or if they were selling getting stapled with thin air (unless they do the dollar bill thing, but even then sometimes that doesn't work). But with HD cameras, and Swerve being so dark skinned, you could see the staples reflecting the gleam of the lights in him.

[Cobra Commander]

Gasoline isn’t the exact same color as water, so unless the water quality in your area sucks or you put some koolaid sort of mix in the water to make it a different color, then I don’t know if water alone will do.

[Dolfan in NYC]

11 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:

so what's the best worked gasoline these days? diluted apple juice/cider? (one of you knows the difference between juice and cider)