Matt D Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 www.wwe.com/classics/oral-history-of-smoky-mountain-wrestling-26165186 This is a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Territorial Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 It's a moot point because there's no way AJ gets signed. They're not hiring a guy in his mid-30s that can't cut a promo and hasn't drawn money for anyone more relevant than TNA. According to Meltzer on the Monday WO podcast, WWE already made AJ an offer (apparently a low one), and Styles turned it down. It's not a completely moot point. Recently? Or 10+ years ago? Supposedly, the WWE offered AJ a contract sometime around his NWA Wildside/WCW/early ROH days (Wikipedia says it was 2002), and he turned it down because the money wasn't good. Just wondering if the Torch is referring to that or if the company has made him an offer recently. In any case, I don't really see him getting a run with the WWE at this point. Sucks for him if he signed the rights to the name "AJ Styles" over to TNA. Maybe he can grow a wooly beard and join ROH as AJ Briscoe, a long lost Briscoe cousin who is the black sheep of the family on account of his city ways (reading and writing, maybe?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 It's a moot point because there's no way AJ gets signed. They're not hiring a guy in his mid-30s that can't cut a promo and hasn't drawn money for anyone more relevant than TNA. According to Meltzer on the Monday WO podcast, WWE already made AJ an offer (apparently a low one), and Styles turned it down. It's not a completely moot point. Recently? Or 10+ years ago? Supposedly, the WWE offered AJ a contract sometime around his NWA Wildside/WCW/early ROH days (Wikipedia says it was 2002), and he turned it down because the money wasn't good. Just wondering if the Torch is referring to that or if the company has made him an offer recently. In any case, I don't really see him getting a run with the WWE at this point. Sucks for him if he signed the rights to the name "AJ Styles" over to TNA. Maybe he can grow a wooly beard and join ROH as AJ Briscoe, a long lost Briscoe cousin who is the black sheep of the family on account of his city ways (reading and writing, maybe?). ... but not 'rithmetic, I noticed ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dok Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I have no knowledge of lucha, but does anyone do a gimmick where in costume and name, they're playing a tribute to retired, popular wrestlers? That would actually be kinda cool for the WWE to do. I would buy a Hot Rod lucha mask. I don't know lucha either, but in Japan Ebessan did loads of tribute gimmicks. Ebesstan Hansen was brilliant. WWE should absolutely use that idea, it would a great way of using someone like Zack Ryder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Lucha is made for a guy named Chameleon who does other people's spots. The closest i can think of, not technically lucha, is some of the stuff Worker Ant did in Chikara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Damien 666 did other wrestlers' spots in Japan. AJ Briscoe should be the half-brother trying to get them back to the church and reject their drunken, gun-toting ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I have no knowledge of lucha, but does anyone do a gimmick where in costume and name, they're playing a tribute to retired, popular wrestlers? That would actually be kinda cool for the WWE to do. I would buy a Hot Rod lucha mask.I don't know lucha either, but in Japan Ebessan did loads of tribute gimmicks. Ebesstan Hansen was brilliant. WWE should absolutely use that idea, it would a great way of using someone like Zack Ryder. Goldust already did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzalez Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I have no knowledge of lucha, but does anyone do a gimmick where in costume and name, they're playing a tribute to retired, popular wrestlers? That would actually be kinda cool for the WWE to do. I would buy a Hot Rod lucha mask.I don't know lucha either, but in Japan Ebessan did loads of tribute gimmicks. Ebesstan Hansen was brilliant. WWE should absolutely use that idea, it would a great way of using someone like Zack Ryder. Goldust already did that. Did everyone forget when Hass did this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I have no knowledge of lucha, but does anyone do a gimmick where in costume and name, they're playing a tribute to retired, popular wrestlers? That would actually be kinda cool for the WWE to do. I would buy a Hot Rod lucha mask.I don't know lucha either, but in Japan Ebessan did loads of tribute gimmicks. Ebesstan Hansen was brilliant. WWE should absolutely use that idea, it would a great way of using someone like Zack Ryder. Goldust already did that. Did everyone forget when Hass did this? Pretty much, yeah. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Ugly ass tattoo's haven't kept dudes out of WWE before, and I don't see why AJ can't be called AJ Styles. Well, unless I didn't use the Trademark Electronic Search System correctly.. the reason why he can't be called AJ Styles is because TNA owns the trademark on that name. So that might be a solid reason. How is that, he was using that name as a rookie in NWA Wildside. Prior use doesn't mean a whole lot if he doesn't trademark it himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I have no knowledge of lucha, but does anyone do a gimmick where in costume and name, they're playing a tribute to retired, popular wrestlers? That would actually be kinda cool for the WWE to do. I would buy a Hot Rod lucha mask.I don't know lucha either, but in Japan Ebessan did loads of tribute gimmicks. Ebesstan Hansen was brilliant. WWE should absolutely use that idea, it would a great way of using someone like Zack Ryder. Goldust already did that. Did everyone forget when Hass did this? Pretty much, yeah. Haha. There was also that time frame where the WWF felt the best use of a 7' tall monster was to dress him as old wrestlers and call him the Showster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Ugly ass tattoo's haven't kept dudes out of WWE before, and I don't see why AJ can't be called AJ Styles. Well, unless I didn't use the Trademark Electronic Search System correctly.. the reason why he can't be called AJ Styles is because TNA owns the trademark on that name. So that might be a solid reason. How is that, he was using that name as a rookie in NWA Wildside. Prior use doesn't mean a whole lot if he doesn't trademark it himself. Seems like he should be able to dispute it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 In all fairness, that probably was the best use for Big Show at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Eugene used to do tributes also, didn't he? Edited to add: I always suspected the end game of Eugene's tributes would be that he would start aping WCW stars' finishers, or those of wrestlers that had been blackballed from WWE ... say, like the Jackhammer, the Big Boot/Leg Drop combo, etc., as a not-so-subtle way of saying, "See? Nothing special, even this retard can do 'em!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 He did, but I was thinking more of wrestlers wearing masks and ring gear that resemble old school wrestlers and then part of their moveset is a tribute to that wrestler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Ugly ass tattoo's haven't kept dudes out of WWE before, and I don't see why AJ can't be called AJ Styles.Well, unless I didn't use the Trademark Electronic Search System correctly.. the reason why he can't be called AJ Styles is because TNA owns the trademark on that name. So that might be a solid reason.How is that, he was using that name as a rookie in NWA Wildside. Prior use doesn't mean a whole lot if he doesn't trademark it himself. Seems like he should be able to dispute it, Not if he signed an agreement concerning the trademark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonL21 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Eugene used to do tributes also, didn't he? Edited to add: I always suspected the end game of Eugene's tributes would be that he would start aping WCW stars' finishers, or those of wrestlers that had been blackballed from WWE ... say, like the Jackhammer, the Big Boot/Leg Drop combo, etc., as a not-so-subtle way of saying, "See? Nothing special, even this retard can do 'em!" Was Eugene ever a playable character in one the Raw vs. SmackDown games? I imagine a moveset full of finishers would've been tremendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzalez Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Alternate WWE Network logos... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayhawk_in_cny Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Eugene used to do tributes also, didn't he? Edited to add: I always suspected the end game of Eugene's tributes would be that he would start aping WCW stars' finishers, or those of wrestlers that had been blackballed from WWE ... say, like the Jackhammer, the Big Boot/Leg Drop combo, etc., as a not-so-subtle way of saying, "See? Nothing special, even this retard can do 'em!" Was Eugene ever a playable character in one the Raw vs. SmackDown games? I imagine a moveset full of finishers would've been tremendous. Eugene was in one of the Raw vs. Smackdown games (2006 I think). I know that his finishers were the Stunner and either the Rock Bottom or People's Elbow, and I believe he had a Hogan-like Legdrop as a signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 He did, but I was thinking more of wrestlers wearing masks and ring gear that resemble old school wrestlers and then part of their moveset is a tribute to that wrestler. This is just begging for an interactive poll on the WWE app. It's too bad(?) Player Uno beat them to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I thought I read somewhere that Punk took a gamble, and let WWE trademark his name.I'm not sure that's much of a gamble since he's probably done wrestling when his WWE career is up. Why are you arguing this? Of course it was a huge gamble. What if he was released right after that really bad match he had when he was called up with Mickie James? I'm quite sure he wasn't planning to retire if that had happened during that time period. 1. Arguing with Gonzalez is what we do here. 2. That depends on when he signed over the name. Your original post that state that he signed it over right off the bat (that's if you're right at all). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Alternate WWE Network logos... Oh... boy. That's a whole bunch of terrible. If I had to pick, it'd be 4th row center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnowsWrestling Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 they need to get away from that red/black scheme its just ugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 They all look like something a bird left on my windshield. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I wouldn't advise them going with the one on the 5th row, farthest right ... looks a smidgen too similar to the World Wrestling Network logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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