Zimbra Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, odessasteps said: Like the Golden Compass first movie and no sequels. Easier to quit than try to thread the needle of the whole "killing god" thing 1
odessasteps Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Zimbra said: Easier to quit than try to thread the needle of the whole "killing god" thing Better to let HBO do it.
J.T. Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 (edited) Really looking forward to Killers of the Flower Moon even though I know I will be furious when I leave the theater. Edited July 5, 2023 by J.T.
Matt D Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 (edited) I was trying to wrap my head around it all and I found an article about how Gerwig had removed the idea of "Christian Morality" (which the author thought was the most important part of the novel as you can imagine) from Little Women and now I'm a little fascinated to see how this plays out. Edited July 5, 2023 by Matt D 1
odessasteps Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, J.T. said: Really looking forward to Killers of the Flower Moon even though I know I will be furious when I leave the theater. Where on the Fruitvale Station scale?
J.T. Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, odessasteps said: Where on the Fruitvale Station scale? I feel that this will rank very high on the Fruitvale Station scale. I cannot even watch the trailer without getting angry. Edited July 6, 2023 by J.T.
Contentious C Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 8 hours ago, odessasteps said: Better to let HBO do it. Don't give Dipshit Zaslav any ideas about what to memory-hole next.
Tabe Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 8 hours ago, J.T. said: Really looking forward to Killers of the Flower Moon even though I know I will be furious when I leave the theater. That was my experience reading the book. It just keeps getting worse and worse and worse. 1
JLSigman Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 17 hours ago, odessasteps said: Better to let HBO do it. Did they make the third part? I heard all about the first two, then it fell off my radar.
odessasteps Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 Yes, last Xmas time. I didn't really dig the ending, but I don't recall how different it was from the book.
Craig H Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 There's a few big-ish changes from the book. Spoiler Coulter couldn't force push away specters in the book, but she has a huge moment and display of power in the penultimate or final episode of the series. In the show, they give Asriel an angel to torture, the one that kills Baruch, that reveals god isn't in heaven and also goes to show that despite Asriel's noble intentions, he's probably evil at the most and incredibly cruel at the very least. And I swear the series is very outward with Mary being gay and in love and the book I don't think was that specific. That's what I remember anyway, like there's more ambiguity in the book. I personally loved that final season and so much from Mary's journey and the final episode just destroyed me. Just full blown box of tissues mess. The episodes that dragged the most were the ones... Spoiler covering Lyra and Will's journey to the underworld, which is I think 2 episodes in total. My only other issue with the finale was Asriel's Independence Day speech. I watched it with a reaction of, oh, he's doing the ID4 thing, cool.
Brian Fowler Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 On 7/5/2023 at 1:44 PM, Zimbra said: Easier to quit than try to thread the needle of the whole "killing god" thing Back when the movie came out and somehow managed to basically avoid mentioning God or the Church at all, I was so confused on what they were planning to do with the sequels. Then it bombed and it didn't matter. 1
Matt D Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 I mean, Roger’s fate in the first book tells you everything you need to know about ol’ Asriel. 3
JLowe Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 8 hours ago, Brian Fowler said: Back when the movie came out and somehow managed to basically avoid mentioning God or the Church at all, I was so confused on what they were planning to do with the sequels. Then it bombed and it didn't matter. They basically made a ton of changes to appease potential evangelical audiences who had no intention of seeing it that in turn alienated the dedicated fans of the series and killed some of the enthusiasm for the movie. IIRC they also changed the ending of the first book for no real reason. But that's Hollywood for ya. I need to revisit the books, I got his follow-up and it was very heavy-handed and not particularly well-written high-school level atheist antagonism. 1
Craig H Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Matt D said: I mean, Roger’s fate in the first book tells you everything you need to know about ol’ Asriel. That's...yeah, ok, that's fair. It has been so long that I honestly forget about Asriel: Child Murderer.
Zimbra Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 2 hours ago, JLowe said: They basically made a ton of changes to appease potential evangelical audiences who had no intention of seeing it that in turn alienated the dedicated fans of the series and killed some of the enthusiasm for the movie. IIRC they also changed the ending of the first book for no real reason. But that's Hollywood for ya. I need to revisit the books, I got his follow-up and it was very heavy-handed and not particularly well-written high-school level atheist antagonism. Yeah. they were trying to chase that Chronicles of Narnia money and did it in the absolute dumbest way possible 2
Chaos Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 Trailer for Ridley Scott's Napoleon dropped this morning. Embed seems to be acting up on me. 1
Curt McGirt Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) So is Joaquin really short or did they decide to hire really tall actors? I mean actors have a rep as being short anyway. I just rewatched The Master (incredible film btw) and I didn't notice anything. EDIT: If you didn't know, Napoleon also had a rep as being short... thus "the Napoleon Complex". (I really hope I didn't need to explain that haha) Edited July 10, 2023 by Curt McGirt
Chaos Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 42 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: So is Joaquin really short or did they decide to hire really tall actors? I mean actors have a rep as being short anyway. I just rewatched The Master (incredible film btw) and I didn't notice anything. EDIT: If you didn't know, Napoleon also had a rep as being short... thus "the Napoleon Complex". (I really hope I didn't need to explain that haha) According to Google, he's 5'8". 1
elizium Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 The Napoleon is short thing came from the English not understanding the French units of measurement and political cartoonists ran with it. The French inch was slightly longer than the English inch and he was 5'2" under the French unit of measurement. Modern estimates of heights for Napoleon vary but a straight conversion from the French inch to the English inch would put him at about 5'6", which was the average height of the time. This is one of my favourite historical factoids and I'm pretty sure this is the 3rd or 4th time I've made this post on here, I love when it comes up 8
odessasteps Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 Not to mention it’s best to belittle and dehumanize the enemy. 2
RIPPA Posted July 11, 2023 Author Posted July 11, 2023 Since I am a sad bitter man I am not upset this is happening to an Eli Roth movie (as much as I love the source material) The Borderlands movie - which finished principal photography in June 2021 and has already undergone rewrites and reshoots and a director change now has a writer bailing Craig Mazin (The Last of Us, Chernobyl) doesn't want his name on the project and is currently being credited under a pseudonym (Joe Crombie which I guess is the new Alan Smithee) Oh and there still hasn't been a hint of a trailer
Recommended Posts