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  1. 22 minutes ago, The Man Known as Dan said:

    Man, I don't even like AEW, but describing Darby Allin as a "midcard tag team guy" is a really shitty characterization. Say what you will about Jungle Boy, but Darby has been one of there best talents.

    I like Darby, sure, but outside of a cup of coffee run with the TNT title all he's done recently is work in a midcard tag team with Sting and not much more.

  2. 7 minutes ago, Casey said:

    Doesn’t really matter, it’s the same idea in theory. Let’s say Demolition was involved with the story, and had been from the start. Who should end a 4 year reign - a dude from a tag team who was the catalyst, or anyone else? The entire point of everyone arguing with you is that the story doesn’t. need. the. title. It possibly even works BETTER without it.

    Is WWE Tag Team GOAT Jey Uso beating Roman any more/less believable than midcard tag team guys like Jungle Boy or Darby Allin potentially beating MJF?

    I love a whole heap of what AEW does but they are absolutely terrible at following up the booking once they have their 'moment'. It's actually almost peak Vince WWE at this point. Like the Joker from the Dark Knight, they are a dog chasing cars. They don't know what to do when they catch one.

    At least with Roman we are debating the believability of multiple legitimate options - Cody, Jey, Rollins, Gunther, Bron, Dwayne - for what is an absolutely all time run.
     

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  3. Fuck if "Pulling in non-wrestling fans" is the criteria for beating Roman then get the strap on Logan Paul right now. Of everything that happened Mania weekend, Logan and KSI had BY FAR the biggest reach in my friend/co-worker circles.

    Knowing I'm 'the wrestling fan' I was hit from every angle with "OMG did you see KSI in the wrestling?" when I came into the office today.

  4. 18 minutes ago, Belgian_Waffle said:

    The populist arguments about durr they drew over 81k they're a 20 billion dollar company are so funny. As if Marvel movies are the best films made each year and beyond criticism because of how much they gross. Why even bother consuming art or sports or entertainment if you're beholden to the logic that as long as it's the most popular and highest grossing it must be "the best"? Is McDonald's your favorite food because they have the most locations worldwide?

    Counterpoint - Imagine walking into every McDonalds you see and telling everyone inside they're all morons for enjoying it. Or standing outside a theatre and telling all the poeple who walked out of Antman & Wanda: QuantumPsychics that their opinions don't matter because they are all just sheep.

    There seemed to be a pretty common vibe that WWE was on the right track up until Roman got the W. For people to then immediately pivot into "This company will never learn how to make people happy" is just bonkers. The reason people point to the gate/buys/merch is because WWE are clearly doing enough to make people happy, even if a lot of the 'purists' aren't satisfied.

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  5. Nowhere near the Reign of Terror.

    That was dubbed so because it stopped so many borderline main eventers being made.

    The only guy that should have beaten Roman in this run is Sami. Other than that, Roman building this title run is everything to WWE and the person that beats him will be a made man forever.

    You don't use that on someone who's already in the A tier of superstar. Just like Wyatt or Reigns should have ended the streak before Brock, you need a Sami/Jey/Bron/Gunther type to be the one that ends Roman's run because it'll hold that much more value in elevating them than it would in simply giving a Cody/Drew/Rollins type a title run.

  6. 3 minutes ago, For Great Justice said:

    We are now back to The Next One having not revealed itself. And that includes to anyone in Stamford. If it wasn’t Sami last month, and it isn’t Cody tonight, then we aren’t even close to it. For all we know it could be Montez Ford or Carmelo Hayes 3-4 years from now. 

    They know who it is.

    SummerSlam.
    Detroit.
    Two of the biggest families in wrestling.

    Bron Breakker Reveals Goldberg Inspired Decision He Regrets

  7. What a fucking amazing show.

    Let Roman keep going forever.

    EDIT: I'm one who wasn't sold on Cody being 'the guy'. He's already a main eventer but beating Reigns is one of those 'All timer' moments. Use it to establish someone coming from the midcard into being a legit main event star.

    SummerSlam is in Detroit this year...

    Let the build of Bron Steiner begin!

  8. 3 hours ago, Eivion said:

    I disagree with this. Gable/Otis, Braun/Ricochet, Viking Raiders, Sheamus/Drew, Imperium, Judgement Day, Legado, & Street Profits are all good-great teams. They could also call up teams like GYV and Pretty Deadly from NXT who are great.

    I think they are all perfectly fine in terms of quality but none of them, outside the Profits, screams "Make us champs".

    And even then, the SPs need to be handled with care because there's a singles run for Ford coming.

    I wonder if the tag belts get split again? It seems strange to have 1 world champ & 1 sent of tag champs but then 2 women's champs... and then one women's tag title as well...

    Maybe we see a unification of the women's belts instead?

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  9. Agree that KO/Zayn need to be booked really carefully post Mania. You want them to get a good run but there's not a heap of quality opposition.

    Street Profits the obvious choice but I think we get a rematch with the Usos, with a big stipulation, at Backlash.

    I think Judgement Day follow Rhea to SDL and feud with the LWO for a while. That'll be great fun.

    Bron Breaker to debut on RAW & set up a match with Theory?

    Can't wait to see how tomorrow night goes down. Super excited for the HIAC plus the main event.

  10. Great night 1. Can't argue with any of the results.

    Personal highlights -

    KSI showing up was great. Got heaps of chatter from my casual fan friends. Can he work as well as Logan? A KSI/Paul tag team could be fun.

    Rey v Dom my MOTN. The entrances were great. The callbacks were great. You can argue Dom should have won be he will be fine. Loved it.

    KO/Sami main event was the right call. Not sure where they go from here, story wise, but it was the moment Sami needed.

    So happy for Rhea. Hunter loves her and I hope she reigns for ages. Just wish she got the beat Charlotte and not whichever Wayans brother it was that they got into White Chicks make up for the night.

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  11. I remember watching Casino as a teenager and not understanding why the cheat didn't take the hammer and the money. I thought "Dude, take all the money and then just head to the emergency room and get your hand sorted. Sure, it'll hurt like hell and you probably can't hold a pen again but you've got a shitload of money for it!"

    I didn't understand the US health system (and it's extreme costs) back then...

    To tie this into wrestling; No more 'independent contractor' shit. Give all your employees proper healthcare WWE!

  12. On 3/23/2023 at 3:31 AM, The Natural said:

    Okada/Omega V, Omega/Ospreay NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 17 rematch, Okada/Danielson. Likely Danielson/Sabre Jr is rescheduled for this show as it was supposed to happen at the original AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door event till Danielson's concussion from Anarchy in the Arena. Be interesting to see who MJF defends the AEW World Championship against from NJPW as he's not losing it before then. AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door 2022 was so cursed.


    Assuming Ospreay is out of action, total fantasy booking, no idea on the state of play in NJPW or the politics behind the curtain - 

    Spoiler

    IWGP Heavyweight Title - Okada v Omega - The obvious dream match to have on US soil

    AEW Championship - MJF v Naito - This was actually hard to pick. I think Naito still has enough name value that a win here does something for MJF without hurting NJPW - I could also see MJF not working the show and really heeling it up by claiming that no-one New Japan put forward was worth his time.

    IWGP Jnr Championship - Takahashi v Jungle Boy - Let's give JB a higher profile spot against a top name.

    IWGP Tag Championship - Bishamon v v MCMG v Young Bucks v FTR - Need to YB and FTR onto the show

    Danielson v ZSJ - Missed it last time. Let's go here.

    House of Black v Narita/Suzuki/Desperado - Trios champs v Trios Champs

    Darby/Sting/Cassidy/BestFriends v Bullet Club v JAS v Dark Order - 20 man Battle Royal

    Clark Connors v Daniel Garcia - Two young up and comers going at it

    Tanahashi v Takeshita - Could we see a passing of the torch? Not sure if the politics would let this happen but I'd love to see it.

    Jon Moxley v Jay White - Give em 20 minutes to try and kill each other

    Hayter/Baker v Mone/Kairi - Top women from each promotion






     

  13. 10 hours ago, LF2 said:

    So are you proposing we have a Tony Khan on a pole match, or a Jake Hager bucket hat on a pole match? If it’s the later it’s got to be Hager vs MJF since he stole that look this week.

    Oh man, the 4 corners on a pole match from WCW...

    For AEW you get:

    A signed photo of Danhausen 

    A guest spot doing commentary on Rampage

    Hager's Hat 

    The AEW Cross Atlantic Titanic Passage Title 

     

     

     

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  14. 2 hours ago, Belgian_Waffle said:

    When was the last time anybody did a tuxedo match on television (or not on television)? Jeff showing up prepared in a full white tux and Orange pissing him off by showing up in a tie dye suit or something... Jeff loses and he's wearing TNA boxers...lots of material there...

    Tuxedo T-Shirt

    He still wants to be formal but he's here to party.

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  15. On 3/14/2023 at 6:20 AM, Craig H said:

    Serious question, if you were going to Moneyball this shit and bring in some consultants from here, past or present, to come up with storylines and then work with people with production experience to format it all, who would you pick? And no need for naysaying anyone's picks. No one needs their feelings hurt and no one needs to be shit on.

    I already mentioned Schneider, just because he has such a wealth of knowledge about storylines and wrestling history, but Matt D would be another pick, again for his wealth of knowledge for wrestling history and logic...just keep him away from booking Hangman. Gregg has a lot of good ideas as well and would be someone I would recommend. Gregg does a good job of thinking as someone in the audience or someone at home and what they would want to see or what may turn them off and a lot of his solutions are pretty simple to implement. 

    I think there are more than a few others I'd go with and I hesitate to also nominate myself, but I do think it would be really fun to give it a shot. I just think we all have a mind for what works and what doesn't. It would be interesting to see what would happen. 

    And come on Mookie, you work for TK, give him some names from here.

    Is Ben still around? We can finally get that hobo army story. This is how we build Mark Briscoe to take the title from MJF.

    That or Piranisi? If only for a weekly "AEW Fashion Watch" segment.

  16. 17 hours ago, The Natural said:

     

    Roman Reigns on RAW the night after WrestleMania XXXIII after beating The Undertaker there.

     

    Great list but want to highlight this one and ask the board - 

    Is "It's my yard now." the greatest 'words for impact' promo of all time?

    There's all time great promos, but the weight of 4 words was incredible.

     

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  17. 9 hours ago, HumanChessgame said:

    Elias reminds me a lot of Damien Sandow, partially because of looks and physique but also in terms of his mannerisms and inconsistent booking. Sandow got really over with his intellectual savior gimmick and his team with Cody was doing well, then they made him Miz's stooge then a bumbling heel. Elias was doing well enough with his singing asshole gimmick (see the Seattle promo) and is competent in the ring, but they just made him a bigger and bigger goof.

    I always get LA Knight and Austin Theory mixed up as they both just strike me as guys Johnny Ace would have hired and been high on during his run - in shape, generically handsome wrestlers who can talk well enough but are totally uninteresting once the bell rings.

     

    I remember in NXT Elias had a surname - Samson - I thought "That's juuuust close enough to do a 'long lost brother' reveal.

    A Sandow/Elias tag team could have been great. Sandow the pompous, spoiled, much loved brother & Elias the artistic rebel who left home to be his own man.

    This is why the whole "Creative has nothing for you" line is such BS. There's always SOMETHING you can be doing to get a character developing.

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  18. 3 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said:

    Watched Bash at the Beach '96 again while we're here wondering whether it's gonna snow or not.  It's really amazing how the closing segment all came together with the crowd organically becoming more and more pissed where now everyone is throwing trash..   There's no way WCW could have thought that it would have worked out THAT well with the crowd participation.  

    What are some other moments you can remember where the crowd takes a cool moment and elevates it to legendary status? 

    Off the top of my head -

    The pop for Austin helping Foley.

    WHAT? - Not a moment but it's become all time vernacular.

    The entire YES Movement, but specifically Bryan turning on Wyatt in the cage.

    Wyatts v SHIELD faceoff.

    The opening bell standoff between Danielson and Omega.

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  19. 1 hour ago, Chaos said:

    Also, seeing Elias in his current state as a character just bums me out because I'm a mark for that gimmick. I'm especially a mark for the heel aspects of that gimmick, and the dude is competent enough as a worker. Some of those matches as Ezekiel were really fun. 

    After THAT promo in Seattle I thought Elias was going to be an upper mid card guy for life. From memory he used to hit a pretty sweet flying elbow in NXT and the 'Drifter' gimmick had a both comedy and danger built in. Should have been a slam dunk but then, how many times have we said that over the years?

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  20. Not only would a vaccine not be a sure thing, but through the season it's been made clear that getting an infection is kinda the least of people's issues. Taking spores out of this universe makes the cordyceps far less of a threat and thus reduces the "save the world" angle of a vaccine.

    People are the issue.

    If you run into a clicker, you're just dead. Same with a bloater. If you stumble outside a QZ and into some of the runner types then the infection is a side effect if you manage to not have your throat gouged out or head ripped off.


     

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