TheVileOne
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17 minutes ago, Ziggy said:
I'm always for younger lesser experienced guys touring Japan. This situation has been poorly handled but I think him working for New Japan is great for him experience wise. It's not even been a week since the footage aired and it seems the Bucks are working him into whatever they have going on so I don't think they dropped the ball with Perry yet. The PPV is next week. If he doesn't show up by The following Dynamite or Colission then maybe it would be a cause for concern.
Fair point.
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2 hours ago, Coletti said:
Jesus Christ shut the fuck up.
No. Fuck off.
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Tony Khan is so incompetent he won’t even book Jungle Boy on TV and attempt to draw heat on the one party they can from the whole CM Punk bullshit drama. You are literally letting New Japan draw all the heel heat of your guy because you are pissed at him for costing CM Punk. Fire Jack Perry or stop mentioning CM Punk.
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Not sure where Anthony Ogogo has been for like 20 years, but it was nice to have him back on TV again tonight. He should be on TV more. He's a great athlete and a natural heel.
Also, death, taxes, and AEW continuing to not care about Battle of the Belts.
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Is Dogmeat OK at least?
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42 minutes ago, Eivion said:Spoiler
I mean they are involved and lobbying for Magneto to be their president/king and he asked for Rogue to be his queen in exchange.
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On 3/18/2024 at 8:16 AM, dogwelder said:
Disney+ to Stream Nearly All Macross Anime Worldwide in 2024
(that is, everything but original Macross and DYRL)
Does this mean it will also be on Hulu?
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On 4/11/2024 at 7:51 AM, Casey said:
Me, a “New Vegas is the best Fallout” guy:
The show: fuck you
What did the show do with regard to New Vegas?
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On 4/12/2024 at 12:58 PM, Raziel said:
Announcements coming out today that the next season of Lower Decks, the 5th, will be it's last. Also, Strange New Worlds is already renewed for Season 4 (even though Season 3 isn't coming out til next year).
I hope any potential Paramount acquisition doesn't kill Strange New Worlds.
Just as an example, the Discovery acquisition killed a lot of WB shows, especially animated ones, even ones that got renewed. Plus we all saw what happened to Batgirl and Coyote vs. Acme.
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3 hours ago, Eivion said:
Guessing its been a few years since that incident in the show, and their involvement is realistically probably not well known by anyone but the X-men. The Hellfire Club is a group of mutants with power and influence in literally every way. It makes sense they would take up leadership if given the chance. In general though that council felt like a bit of a shout to the Krakoan era that just ended.
SpoilerOK but the leader of the X-Men was there, and a person with memories of the Hellfire Club and no one batted at an eye?
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I was confused why Sebastian Shaw and Emma Frost were not only in Genosha but allowed to have roles in the governing council. Maybe Frost turned over a new leaf after the Apocalypse incident, but Shaw weaseling his way in there didn't compute. Both were major red flags considering their roles in the Dark Phoenix Saga.
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That last episode was brutal. I badly needed a hug after that.
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What does it matter if there were loud **** CM Punk chants? That doesn’t make this show less of a dumpster fire. It’s a weak attempt at a defense by Meltzer for something he knows was garbage.
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1 hour ago, Niners Fan in CT said:
Isn't that a bit hyperbolic? It was trash but at the same time 'Dynasty' is 2 weeks away and I expect there to be several great matches. The online discourse will revert back to the old "yeah they're having great matches but WHAT ELSE!" Etc...
Perhaps, but that's how i feel right now.
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5 minutes ago, ExcellenceofAirPollution said:
I watched the Bucks/footage/FTR promo, haven't seen anything else
Is it weird that I don't have strong feelings about it one way or the other? Tony had the right to clap back at Punk, I didn't have a problem with that aspect of it. And it's like people forget what a wrestling war used to be like. WWE spent Mania week taking multiple shots at AEW. I don't want a return of the late 90's, but it's not like Heyman or Bischoff or Vince wouldn't have used footage like this at some point. It's generally not what I want to see either, but some people are getting way too worked up about this whole thing.
Personally all of the Punk stuff is just surreal to me at this point. He's been an absolute chaos agent for AEW while in WWE he's seemingly a model employee. I went from being a huge fan of the guy for like 20 years, excited for his return in 2021 and that initial run, to absolutely souring on him as a person when he did the post All Out presser. He lost me as a fan that night before the brawl even happened. I was pretty meh to his second AEW run, and at this point I'm just seeing all this happen from a place of detachment. I can be objective and say Punk did a good job at WM because he did. But the worst thing you can do to a carny is just walk away and that's what I did with Punk. It's why I try to avoid posting about him anymore for the most part, I've said my piece and don't really have anything to add to it.
Anyway, seems like people here really hated it. I didn't, and it was about what I expected (presentation wise). I wasn't that interested in another Bucks/FTR match at this point and they used this to put heat on that. I'm more interested now, mission accomplished. I liked the Bucks using this as an excuse for their loss at All In, thought their material and delivery was good. Nick especially was good here. I can see the opinion that it should have been more over the top and played for comedy, I wouldn't have hated that either. All in all I thought it was fine for what it was.
The footage was also about what I expected. Punk got in Jack's face, they talk for a while, Punk shoves him, headlocks him, it gets broken up. That's been the story all along. I feel like everyone who's been paying attention to both Brawl Out and "Brawl" In already knew that Punk was the aggressor in both instances, and the people who are going to shit on AEW/Bucks/Omega no matter what, and defend Punk no matter what.....this isn't changing anyone's mind
My hope though is that now that they've gotten it out of their system they seriously move on. Anything Punk related should be dead and buried at this point (I say knowing it won't be). Bucks/FTR has enough history and the title on the line that it shouldn't need heat from someone who isn't there. If they keep this shit lingering what the fuck are they even doing? If they start getting CM Punk chants it's their own fault
I respect your view on this, but if AEW can't move on from this over eight months later, how are they ever going to be able to move on at all?
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I believe AEW firing CM Punk was the correct decision. He clearly didn't want to be there, and his presence backstage was a problem. And frankly, I think Tony Khan announcing his termination and doing it live in front of the fans in Chicago right before All Out was also a gutsy move. He went in front of a hostile pro-Punk crowd and laid the whole thing out, and I think that was the best way to address it at the time. Otherwise, the fans could've hijacked and ruined the whole show. Khan addressing it right then basically nipped it in the bud and let the fans get out all their aggression and disappointment about Punk right then.
That should've been the end of it.
Wrestling fans being what they are are never going to let this go. This is going to continue being a story 25 years from now just like the Montreal Screwjob. You will have this side going with this side, this side going with that side. However, AEW dredging this up again when almost everyone wants to move on did not help. Tony Khan is clearly taking Punk going back to WWE personally. He's taking that Helwani interview personally and it shows. Khan letting everyone know he's shaken by all this and letting it affect his product is a waste of time.
AEW used to be the shiny new toy and internet darling. That period is over, and Tony Khan can't stand it.
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4 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:
Seth? That toadie isn't saying anything that may displease The Massssssssssster. And do either of those have guys have connections to Ospreay?
You want to feel old, start a job where the 17 year-old kids working with more responsibility than you still can't handle alcohol purchased by supermarket customers.
Re: the chickenhawk thing, Edge was probably thinking of this guy
Seth Rollins and Will Ospreay infamously had an online Twitter feud about five years ago. Seth Rollins tried to dismiss Ospreay by calling him "Little Guy." Baron Corbin also got involved.
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1 hour ago, Just Dave said:
I hate when people overreact to stuff the young bucks are involved in…
They weren't even involved in this. That's how stupid all of this is.
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1 hour ago, John E. Dynamite said:
It's bad enough to have to tolerate iffy TV, but having to navigate a sea of scorching hot weirdo takes that insist on elevating "that sucked" to "(whatever the fuck this is)" makes everything so, so much worse.
Certainly one way to deflect from this situation.
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What AEW did tonight was pathetic, petty, nonsense. Trying to tie it into Young Bucks versus FTR was moronic. It served no one and it helped no one. Tony Khan proved Punk right by airing that footage. He’s a spineless clown.
What did AEW gain in any way by airing that? They won’t even book Jack Perry on TV anymore. This was a disgrace. There is no coming back from this ever.
Embarrassing trash.
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One thing is I don't care for plucky babyface Jade. I think she needs to be baddie Jade just in WWE. And if she can just get her spots in and crush a bunch of women like cans, I think that can work. The key will be once she gets in there with a top-level women if they can have a believable match for the WWE audience on a PLE.
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1 hour ago, Godfrey said:
Stoked for the footage. The graphic with the Bucks and no Punk/Perry reference does appear troll like, Meltzer is saying it's legit but won't show the part with Tony and I can't imagine they would air anything unless it directly contradicts what Punk said in the interview (or at least discredits the rest of his story). Not sure what the Bucks could add, by all accounts they weren't present
And if it's not legit? That's a huge swing and you gotta respect it but it could really back up on them
Even *IF* it's real, and even *IF* it does contradict Punk's comments, it's still low-class Springer show garbage. Utter pathetic nonsense.
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14 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said:
TK just needs to find his Joey Styles who can relay certain messages. Sorry Excalibur and Schiavone, you two might have too much credibility for this role.
Tony Schiavone who voiced on his own podcast that he's sick of this and wants to move on and doesn't want to talk about it. I doubt he likes how this is going right now.
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16 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said:
Said the same of Punk: none of these people have been saying enough in public and it’s refreshing and demystifying to hear them do so. Waive the NDAs for All Out and let everyone put their cards on the table. People will move on. It’s fine.
There's no moving on from this. Ever. And that's not how NDAs work.
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The Wall Street Journal Vince McMahon Thread.
in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
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You forgot Matt Riddle.