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  1. 45 minutes ago, WebConn89 said:

    It was posted in the MMA thread but Mark Coleman wrestled In Japan in the early aughts. For those of you that don’t know Coleman is in the hospital battling smoke inhalation after saving his parents from a house fire. https://www.essentiallysports.com/ufc-mma-news-breaking-ufc-hall-of-famer-mark-coleman-admitted-to-hospital-after-saving-parents-from-fire/

    Terrible news, and I hope he pulls through - I also feel like a giant, giant ass right now, because this is how I learned I've been confusing Coleman with Ron "H²O" Waterman for 20+ years since catching him wrestle pre-TV Randy Orton at a WWF house show as a teenager

  2. Just now, Casey said:

    Which is perfectly fine, because Mercedes excels as a heel and honestly their women’s division doesn’t have that huge heel. Toni is slowly turning face, and with this All About Eve story, will be face anyway before it’s over with. The biggest heel is… Julia & Skye? Saraya? That’s not good.

    Exactly where I was heading, but kinda uh, forgot to write (it's almost like I have a job I should be doing right now, or something!)

    Mega-face Willow vs. heel Mercedes is where we gotta end up. I've made the comparison before, but handled right, I think Willow could be a huge "underdog" type star, like Danielson in the lead up to WM XXX.

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  3. 6 minutes ago, Stefanie Sparkleface said:

    It reads to me more like they let themselves enjoy the show rather than be lost to analysis. There's something to be said for people who can be lost in the moment.

    Excellent point - and that's why I wanted to really emphasize that I didn't intend for it to be a put-down of any kind; everyone here could probably learn a thing or two from them (myself included)

  4. @HarryArchieGusWell put, and I cannot disagree whatsoever.

    Though, interesting thought experiment: I'm sure it largely would depend on the town, but part of me wonders if the AEW crowd would actually boo the homegrown, fun-loving, super hot (settle me gently) Willow against Mercedes.

    Obviously that seems kind of nuts on the surface, but in all seriousness, youve got an audience who was already kind of torched by an ex-WWE star or two on the male side, and has already been semi-trained by that Outcasts angle to boo any "invading" women - you're right in that maybe it's not a good idea to chance at this juncture, but I'm not entirely convinced the crowd wouldn't be (let's say) 70 Willow/30 Sasha

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  5. 14 minutes ago, Godfrey said:

    That’s interesting, do you mean you think there’s more marks as opposed to smart marks in wrestling audiences again? What part do you think they don’t realize is fictional?

    In a way/sense, yes - I'm hesitant to say anything that could be misconstrued as xenophobia or a put-down of any sort, but there seems to be a contingent of international fans on those type of forums who treat the proceedings more like pure sport. "JHON CENA WILL KILL ___"-type stuff

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  6. 42 minutes ago, HarryArchieGus said:

    love this card. I’m feeling like somebody sets their sights on the Mone. I suspect the Doctor might be in. Hoping and wishing for a Rebel by her side. 

    Seconded on the card as a whole, but I could go for a Britt return here. I think she's probably one of the most qualified women in terms of being able to go toe to toe with Mercedes on the mic - with that said, I *do* think you kind of have to go Willow as a first bout. Pardon my French but "You broke my ankle, stole my belt, and ruined the Japan run I've dreamed of since I was a little girl" absolutely fucking books itself.

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  7. 6 minutes ago, Just Dave said:

    m fully expecting some shenanigans. A heel turn from PAC or something. 

    Took the words out of my mouth! Great built in "unfinished business" story there with the Death Triangle/Elite Best of 7 last year, and PAC walking out on em during B&G because of his nose bone (obviously that was more geared toward Omega, but they can pivot it to just being 'the Elite' since they've now split per last week's promo).

    It would be a lot easier to guess at if we knew Omega's current health status - I'm still not convinced we aren't getting Omega/Hangman vs Bucks III in this tag tourney

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  8. 7 hours ago, John E. Dynamite said:

    Has the recent surge of WWE success led to an influx of children infilrating online wrestling discussion? Is the continued practice of less moderation inviting negative actors to create abad takes -> more arguments -> more clicks reaching a saturation point? Does the wrestling I like suck now? Am I just terribly depressed?

    Why does talking about wrestling on the internet suck more now that it ever has? This board doesn't even feel right. I just don't want to do it. I think of conversations worth starting, or matches worth sharing,, and then I consider the effort that it would take to post them *anywhere* and then I don't.

    Another point on this, that I am going to try and put as delicately as possible: WWE's international reach growing even more over the last decade means that a lot of social media and comment sections are also now teeming with audiences from around the world who may not be entirely familiar with the fictional nature of what they are seeing.

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  9. 35 minutes ago, TheVileOne said:

    Nick Khan's comments basically cheerleading Vince McMahon coming back to the company early last year look even more embarrassing now. 

    Great point, about that - I do wonder if there was a situation where "executive 1 and 2" knew enough about this to where they thought: give Vince enough rope, and he'll just hang himself, leaving us to both reap the benefits of a sale AND be able to plausibly say "The bad man's gone." I could see a world where someone, without anticipating the Vince suit later, looks at that like a win/win.

    Someone elsewhere made a great point too: it may behoove the plaintiff to involve current WWE management because they may have access to evidence that's no longer in Vince's possession, and wouldn't come out in discovery against him alone (as opposed to involving the company) - so it may be that there's a bit of legal strategy involved, in order to "widen access"

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  10. 40 minutes ago, Technico Support said:

    Nope.  I posted it multiple pages ago.  Firing Vince lets them say “the bad man is gone, nothing to see here.”  I mean shit, the Netflix CEO said as much a day or so afterward.  I hope I’m wrong and maybe more will come out in discovery and trial (if it gets that far) or in the criminal investigation, but I’m cynical about it all.  The rich and powerful always seem to evade justice.

    Adding to this point: this aspect of the story being written about so long after the original story breaking kind of leaves "the bad man is gone" as kind of the lasting taste in the general public's mouth - I don't necessarily know if this addendum to the story is "sensational" enough to garner the same kind of coverage. I'd be willing to bet the Netflix position is what most average folks (who don't have a 44 page thread on it going) walk away with - whether that's by design, who knows?

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  11. 1 hour ago, AxB said:

    No, but Max Caster has.

    That was such a weak line by him that I kinda questioned whether it was part of this whole botching the raps/Jay not letting him speak much thing that's happening on TV. If not, I'm hoping they are able to move past it and not jettison their heat/merchandise sales too much as a result

    (For anyone curious, he was arguing with some random and went back into the guy's tweets and called his girlfriend bad-looking. The guy's caption was like "she kinda bad" so it was meant to be a play on that, but it came off kinda mean cause the chick was only 18, plus it's just not that clever)

  12. 4 hours ago, The Green Meanie said:
    PWTorch reports that Kevin Kelly has been let go by AEW. His recent social media comments against Ian Riccaboni over the weekend led to his termination.
    Additionally, Kelly's on-air performances were deemed below par within AEW, with Tony Schiavone stepping in to assume the lead play-by-play role a few months into Collision's run, a move reportedly supported by Tony Khan.

    I support this fully. We're not gonna get into it here, but in addition to being the shits in the booth, he's also a nutbar. And on a "win/win" note, I'm always beyond overjoyed to hear TS open the show with "You are looking LIVE at..."

    1 hour ago, Krone said:

    But he's just starting his DDP-esque push. I'd love some more Menard on commentary, but I'd love to see him get a big moment in the ring before then. Guy has been a savant on the mic since coming to AEW.

    Hard agree, but I do love him in the booth. Rib tape is to the underdog babyface, as not shaving for a week is to the 'injured' babyface - always a surefire visual cue for sympy

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  13. 31 minutes ago, odessasteps said:

    I don’t know now that the DVDVR glass house is immune to throwing stones on this topic. It’s not exactly bereft on extreme opinions. 😀

    Oh certainly not, but I don't think I've ever seen it go quite that far without a swift and deserved Cashing from the mods - nine times out of ten, if there's an argument here it's relatively civil, maybe some light ball busting but no one's like, "yeah I hated that show, it had to have been booked by a coke head"*

    * = Except the times they actually were booked by coke heads

     

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  14. 50 minutes ago, RazorbladeKiss87 said:

    https://x.com/TonyKhan/status/1765808199439966210?s=20

    After getting bored and going through the replies, I can say there's some weird people on Twitter.

    Imagine the fact that we're fellow viewers of the show, too - I can't begin to think what some of the outside world would think of the "discourse" on places like wrestling twitter, or squared circle were they to stumble on it. Like imagine someone going on, idk, Al Pacino's page and being like "YOU DONT LOVE MOVIES, YOU LOVE DRUGS! YOURE KILLING FILM! WHY DO YOU MAKE MOVIES AT PARAMOUNT WHEN YOU KNOW MGM IS THE ONLY STUDIO THAT MATTERS?! MGM 4 LIFE!!" It's just so fucking bizarre, man. I don't watch WWE for a variety of reasons, but I certainly enjoy other wrestling besides AEW from time to time. I recently gotten some great MLW and Lucha recs from you guys here, I catch TNA on the streaming channel once in a while, an NJPW on AXS rerun here or there. Even back in the '90s as a kid, I certainly had my preferences, but I watched WCW, ECW, and the WWF all the same (as well as whatever else I could find) - some of these replies are right out of like, an election thread, or like arguing with a visiting Red Sox fan in the bleachers or something. Is this just like, how everything is now??? Like, people seem aware of it - I'm sick to fucking death of reading the word "tRiBaLiSm" - but no one seems to take any steps to correct it, it's the weirdest shit. I'm all for debate but my God

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  15. 4 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

    There is absolutely NO age limit on stupidity, especially in this country. Apparently a great deal of the population not only does not mature, but they regress in maturity the older they get. 

    This is not a joke: I saw a theory recently that this is a very real thing, and some of it may have to do with the lead they used to use in pencils, paint, and gasoline. I'll link you if I can find it

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  16. 1 hour ago, Just Dave said:

    Jesus, really? I retract my statement, then. Fire them both lol.

    Dude, this was news to me also. I had no idea either were at it for that long.

    Really gives some credence to the idea of "TV age"

  17. 15 minutes ago, Casey said:

    you’re fucking insane

    Hard agree, and I make no secret of it - but I assure you I'm serious! I'll take "different" any day over what could've essentially been a segment from any RAW from 1998-20??.

    And again, to focus on the positives: @Just Davemade a great point on the last page, it's not an every week thing (yet) and probably ain't that big of a deal - for me, it was just the totality of the long show opening promo AND the set-up for a same-night match AND the feuding partners trope AND the Nickelodeon LEDs all over the place.

    But what I should really focus on coming out of it: all the right guys were involved, Wardlow was treated like a threat, crowd's behind Swerve, Samoa FN Joe is still our WHC... there's lots to love about the players, it just wasn't the segment for me. The rest of the show ruled ass though, I hope we can at least agree there!

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  18. 1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said:

    This is where the mute button and the selective attention span are your friends. Zone out on the computer (or your phone) while the crap happens and you're good. Unfortunately if you do this for WWE you really have to keep your eyes peeled for any select good parts that will be overwhelmed by the suck. 

    Oh yeah dude, definitely not bad tactics, and as you alluded to, that was basically the way I consumed WWE by the end. It's just one of those things that's like, a slight bummer because the M.O. on Wed/Fri/Sat has historically been "Inject every second into my veins" thus far. Even the goofy shit was at least *different* - I'll take a million Brandi Rhodes Nightmare Collective promos or Cracker Barrel matches over Swerve and them having to give Shakespearean soliloquies.

    But again, to end this on a positive note: despite my being a baby about some of the visual and formatting choices made, they turned around and gave us Okada, the wild Hook/Cage match, and THAT main event - if that means tuning out for 1/8th of the show, I guess so be it

    The "buffet" just has a couple more options now, and that's ok

  19. 39 minutes ago, The Natural said:

    https://theubj.com/uae/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Kazuchika-Okada-AEW.jpg

    Things you love to see. Great getting this on my birthday.

     

    38 minutes ago, The Natural said:

    Liking the new AEW logo and AEW Dynamite set. The AEW logo without the border and All Elite Wrestling will take getting used to.

    Gotta get a double-Natch-quote for this one:

    1) happy birthday dude! Hope it's a great one

    2) hard agree. I remember when they first changed the border from gray to white, I think you and I were among the first to be like "Aww, what the hell man." I like the symmetry of it, but there's something peculiar to me about taking the words out - the only other time we saw that was when Collision started, and it was understandable/explainable due to the Punk beef. I don't hate it at all, but something about it has that kinda weird, "branding" feel for lack of a better term. I'm sure it will grow on me, though, probably much more than the other changes (and it was nice to see the gold 'E' back on some of the ringside stuff).

    Edit: FWIW, they kept the logo the same on the AEW on TBS bug in the corner, but it's also plausible that was merely an oversight

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  20. 1 hour ago, Log said:

    If they do Danielson/Osprey and Kingston/Okada at Dynasty, it’s going be really tempting for me to drive to St Louis for that. 

    That's gonna be so killer - though, I do think we might first make a quick pit stop at Kingston/Danielson(who now respects him)/a partner vs. Okada/Bucks.

    Looking at the Okada/Bucks alliance through the lense of the tag tournament: there's a story to tell between the Bucks and Okada's former buddies from CHAOS, Best Friends for sure. I also think there's a strong possibility based on the Bucks' promo that we get a Bucks vs Hangman/Omega rematch.

     

    This was an interesting show because, I'll be honest: the first ~20 minutes pissed me off immensely. Three of my absolute least favorite WWF/E tropes in one segment (a 20 min opening monologue, a match booked for 'right here tonight in ___,' and feuding tag partners) looking like its some kind of cross promotion between NXT 2.0 and Hot Wheels...

    And then a funny thing happened: the rest of the show was killer!! Seriously, I don't have a damn thing to complain about - if anyone ever catches me crying about the color of the ropes again, remind me Okada is here and things are gonna be ok

    9/10 show - just what the doc ordered after a big PPV

    (though I gotta say once again - if we're gonna keep up this Sunday PPV nonsense, I think it might behoove AEW/WBD  to explore putting Collision on Monday night - capitalize on the months with no Raw, AND get that immediate PPV follow-up while the buzz is still ... buzzing).

    Edit: Also I have to give all the props in the world to Hook/B Cage - they really over delivered here, especially days removed from the awesome Sting match under similar rules

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  21. 4 minutes ago, Kang said:

    It's Matt Hardy. Unless his contract is extended then it's goodbye.

     

     

    1 minute ago, zendragon said:

    Would make sense to move him to larger backstage role ala Christopher Daniels

    This is an interesting one because I assume Jeff has much more time remaining on his deal - no disrespect to Matt at all, but I'm not sure I see WWE interested in him at this point without Jeff (who may not necessarily be welcomed back after the way that last run ended). Curious how this one shakes out. If D'Amore hadn't left TNA, I could see a potential return there for Matt or both. If everyone stays well-behaved for a while, I could see a WWE HOF/t-shirt/video game run maybe - an 83rd Jeff DWI is probably preeeetty low on the totem pole of potential P.R. nightmares over there at the moment

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  22. 37 minutes ago, EVA said:

    I don’t think NXT has done Pillman any favors, so I don’t know if that’s the direction Jack wants to go in, if actually improving is the goal. Rock’s daughter has been in the system for 4 years and still can’t talk convincingly.

    Oh yeah, no argument from me on that one - what I meant to say is, if he doesn't come back from Japan with a little more fire in his belly, it might be time

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