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I'm kind of confused by this response. There's a booker. It's Tony Kahn. The EVPs of Cody, Kenny, & The Bucks also pitch ideas. Jericho is very hands on with his own stuff yes, but has also been known to pitch ideas for other stories. That's how stories get developed. All talent have input in their own stories, in that they can pitch tweaks or ask for changes or pitch different ideas. But Tony Kahn is the show runner. He creates the narratives and the stories, with input from all those sources. That's how pro wrestling works. That's how pro wrestling has worked for 100 years. WWE has changed that formula in the past 15 years or so. But they are the exception, not the rule. Whether a specific performer is shy or has no ideas to pitch is kind of a moot point. You're a performer. If you can't come up with ideas for yourself, the booker can. Your job is to take the paint you get handed and paint the picture the way you see it between the ropes. She wasn't hired to be a TV writer. She wasn't hired under the guise of needing to come up with her own stories. She was hired to be a wrestler. And pitching ideas for yourself is not even one of the top five most important skills of being a wrestler. I just don't understand this talking point or how it's relevant to being a wrestler. You really think The Bunny is the one writing the heels using the brass knucks story for her & Penelope? Or that Hangman is the one writing Bryan running through the Dark Order before wrestling page? Maybe they pitch tweaks. But they are wrestlers. Their job is to wrestle and try and hype up the times they are going to wrestle with their words. Being shy or too inexperienced to pitch story ideas has absolutely nothing to do with the job she was hired for. It's a bummer to me too. Because I actually really liked what she portrayed. Her whole aura and look and music and presentation I thought was good. She was doing a good job getting that character over. I just think the health issues slowed down her progression and she got frustrated with having to work her way back up again since losing the momentum. It's understandable. But being shy or not having story ideas is not why she wasn't getting on TV.

I'm quoting just this one talking point to clarify something that I think is getting passed over by all of us. From day one AEW has been positioned as traditional pro wrestling. They are purposely doing wrestling like it was done before WWE went overly scripted with a ton of writers. This looser structure is by design. They didn't make a mistake in doing it this way. They made a specific choice to do it this way. If those parameters are not what you are suited for, then you should at least be aware that you're not going to excel as much as people who are suited for that. Like I'd never say you knew that ahead of time, don't sign with them. By all means, sign with them and get that money. Try your best to grow into someone that can thrive under that. But it's a bit much to expect the entire company structure to change, when that structure it's self is one of the biggest selling points for the audience. AEW has kind of been saying 'Hey do you enjoy the promos of Dusty, & Piper, & Flair more than you enjoy some dipshit scripting Roman to say suffering succotash? Then AEW is for you, we don't script a performer's promos and never will.' The AEW structure is never going to change. And if she would thrive under tighter structure, she should work towards getting signed by WWE. Who knows she may be able to be a gigantic star under the right circumstances for her. But to call AEW out for needing a change of structure to more suit what she wants out of wrestling and to dismiss the fact that it is openly one of their drawing points is... really short sighted. Not critiquing anything else she's saying. But just to expect them to be something they have beat their chest about never being... is a weird thing to be critical of. It may not be the best structure for Swole personally, but that loose structure is absolutely a majoring drawing factor for the target audience.

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Holy fuck what an awful reply. Man for as much as I like about how TK handles stuff... he's still very immature. Not everyone is going to like every decision you make. And even worse when someone makes a reasonable criticism you can't be like well fuck you, you sucked anyways. Whether she did or didn't is pretty irrelevant. Because if she did then why the fuck you signing her in the first place dude? You look like a total dipshit either way. Spectacularly awful to handle this. This isn't going to just go away by deleting the tweet and being all like "but guys its new years I was drunk lols".

For Chrst's sake. You weren't "right" about Tay. You're acting like a fucking baby dude. She sat on a guy's lap and then later tried to downplay it and called people saying it, a liar. Who the fuck cares? Grow up. She's out there deflecting shit she didn't want people to know about. That doesn't make you right that makes you an immature asshole who can't read the room. If you broke into the pentagon and took a bunch of pics of classified documents they would lie about their existence too. Your inability to get the fuck over it is intolerable. No idea about the J-Rose thing so not going to comment on something I have no knowledge on. But you weren't right about Britt either. Because you were out there TMZ'ing who she supposedly was fucking. Whether she had an attitude or not, you're in the wrong there gossiping about her personal life. Fucking Labar (if true, which I very much doubt) had fucking ZERO to do with her breaking into the wrestling business. So you're wrong again. And a fucking scumbag to boot. Let's not forget your rants about Cogar and how he was done in the business for selling an ACAB sticker. Uh, last check dude is fucking killing it in GCW and broke free of the Pittsburgh drama. So wrong again. And finally my last bit of wisdom. Life isn't about being right. Being right is insignificant. You can be the most right man on the planet and still be a prick no one wants to talk to. Maybe 2022 should be a year of personal growth for you. Break free from right or wrong, try and define yourself by being a good person or a bad person.

I'm all caught up watching this and I think it's pretty fun. Right up my alley.

Yeah sadly that holds up. It's not everyone. And it's getting better as the older gen phases out. But it's a bummer how many people you come across that actually talk and think like that.

So just for the sake of clarity... this isn't a difference of opinion. I went through that nxt thread and it's horrendous. Far worse than I remembered. Someone says the name Britt Baker and you immediately jump to her fucking Labar. How is that an opinion? It's your opinion she slept with Labar to get into the business? Also explain how that works anyway. This isn't 1972. You don't need anyone to "get you into" the business. She just had to show up at IWC's training center and agree to pay the fee and train. Fuck all had to do with if she did or didn't sleep with a guy involved in the show at the time. No matter what role you play in the business it's you that's toxic. Britt fucked so and so. Sammy & AEW need to apologize to me. Carmela & Graves need to come clean to me. You're a whole ass narcissist and you don't see it. The world, the wrestling business, and this board don't revolve around you. THAT'S what's wrong with the world right now. People like you think your "opinions" are as valid as anyone else's when what you're saying isn't an opinion at all, it's out and out slander. Stop digging any deeper.

Once a week but has to take pies to the face, or once a month and gets treated with respect for the great athlete she is? Easy choice. But feel free to choose the weird pie option if that's your preference.

Oh I read what you put. You're being treated oh so very poorly because an adult chose to change course on how he handles his dating life. Yes Sammy Guevara personally thinks you are so very very stupid. Should I put that in green font to emphasize the sarcasm? Entitled AF. AEW / Sammy / Tay have no law binding them to tell you the truth about their personal lives. So you demanding they be upfront with you (and you even said AEW should tweet out an apology) is entitled as fuck. Kept this post shorter for ya pal.

Well okay this is a slightly different take than I thought you were going for. You're not mad about their right to privacy. Just the change in course on an explanation. This is less creepy. But here's the thing, you seem to have some sort of insecurity about the part I put in bold. Like this is much different than WWE treating fans dumb by not allowing the word belt on TV. (God damn pal a belt is what keeps your pants up this is a championship title). This is a real life situation that isn't scripted. No one is treating anyone stupid. It has to do with real people and how those real people would like something handled. No one owes anyone an apology for what transpired. (Beyond private relationship circumstances if they were breached). It happened behind closed doors "off screen" and has nothing to to with the wrestling promotion's narrative or the abilities of any of the performers. If they have decided to change course and embrace the relationship in public, that isn't treating anyone like they're stupid. That's real people making a change in their way of thinking. It has nothing to do with AEW as a promotion or any storylines. So you're really conflating this, the Graves / Carmela thing, and even people being a surprise spotted at the airport. None of these things have anything to do with an on screen story or treating anyone as dumb. This is garbage TMZ stuff that they absolutely don't owe anyone any explanation for. This is the classic entitled fan syndrome. Also just because this stuff is common knowledge to you, doesn't mean it's common knowledge to some / most of the viewing audience. So what you're advocating for is ruining the surprises for the average fans and forcefully giving dirt on the performer's personal lives. It's too much and you are the weird one here, not the promotions or the way they handle it. No one is treating you like you're stupid, you're just being nosy and entitled and demanding too much.

I'm not gonna quote it, but man is that a gross opinion. Hey Tay Conti you wrestle on TV so fuck your privacy. You're not allowed to live your life away from da twitterverse. You owe everyone an explanation of who you fuck and why. ??? Jesus Christ lol. She's an adult. She's not required to validate your feelings of righteousness for being a creep and knowing what's going on in her personal life away from cameras. AEW as a company damn sure shouldn't validate that behavior. Nor should anyone feel compelled to ruin a surprise debut just because someone posted an airport picture on twitter. Even if the twitter bubble consisted of 50% of all the fans viewing (it doesnt) you're advocating for ruining the experience of the other 50% of the viewing audience (it's more like 75%) and punishing them for not being all up in the scoopz on airport pictures 24/7. Those opinions are quite a bit warped there man.

Yeah is real issue was passion (and knowledge / intangibles). The Giant also started from scratch but the difference is he had that passion and drive and desire to get better and learn. Old George was just sad his basketball career didn't workout and was taking an easy paycheck with no real interest in improving. So it's just not meant to be. I still wish they gave it a shot. That's a real weird thought experiment lol.

So take this opinion with a grain of salt. I literally only watched the original trilogy for the first time a few weeks ago. So I lack the context of seeing them in the time they were made. I thought the first one was okay and the sequels were hot wet trash. As for this new movie, I thought it was okay. In line with how I felt about the original. I think my main dislike of the franchise is once they get to the real world. I just don't like the aesthetic or the story beats of the real world. I love the aesthetic and story beats of being inside the matrix tho. Which is probably why I hate the two sequels so much, since the majority of the real story happens in / around Zion. For this one, I thought it was real clever to have his matrix program be him being the designer of a matrix sim game. Unfortunately when he breaks free of the matrix I just lose interest. I also just think the story crux of machines need to use humans for energy is just... dumb. Especially since, if I understood the scene correctly, in the 3rd movie when they fly above the clouds it's beautiful with the sun shining. I took that to mean everyone thinking the sun had burnt out was mislead. And the machines were doing this not for energy but because they wanted to keep the humans enslaved. So why now in the 4th movie do the machines still need humans for power? Also humans are inefficient as fuck as power conductors. Let's get some thermodynamics programming into these machines lol. Matrix 1 | 2.5 stars Matrix 2 | 1 star Matrix 3 | 1 star Matrix 4 | 2 stars

True. The outfit in the video is even more heinous than usual. All airbrush with no fur glued on. Just airbrushed fur. Abysmal look for a baby face, so you can imagine in this scenario he gets an overhaul to his look. What was hot in 1993 to rip off? They could have given him some kind of tweak. Or at the very least just airbrushed an Andre singlet onto his normal bodysuit lol.

There were some good moments this week but the one word I would use to describe this episode was FILLER.

Thank you for posting this. I love odd freak show matches you never knew happened. This was like a reverse squash. Gonzales got literally no offense besides a choke & throw. Him doing a face turn at the end there is actually pretty intriguing. Had his health & interest in wrestling not started waning I wonder if Giant Gonzales could have been an attraction as a face in this era. There's no more Hogan. No more freak body guys because of the steroid trial. I could kind of see how he could fit in. You run your Brets & Shawns in the title matches. You run your Undertaker & Papa Shangos for the occult mystical stuff. Then you run Giant Gonzales vs a low card heel factory for some freak show squashes. At the very least you run him vs Yokozuna to give Yoko a babyface monster to slay. What other weird / freak show matches are out there? I definitely watched Zeus vs Abdullah The Butcher from WWC. That's the type of shit I'm looking for lol. The match was not good at all but I couldn't look away.

I can accept the pandemic as partial reasoning. But I think the bigger reasoning is house shows in general lack a purpose. Sure taking young kids to see WWE up close definitely serves a purpose. But in 2021 when we know nothing significant is going to happen on a house show, they're kind of irrelevant. Especially in this era of overly scripted WWE. You're not gonna get a random FTR vs Roode & Gable 45 minute banger anymore. You're gonna get the same 10-12 minute match in every town from every performer on the loop. House shows in smaller markets that don't get tv tapings are still viable. But a big MSG house show is just asking for apathy. How many New York City fans are casuals that don't know these are irrelevant shows? Not a whole hell of a lot. At this point 75% of the whole audience is at least semi smart to the online discourse in wrestling. In a big market like NYC it's probably 85-90%.

This is just one man's opinion, but I agree with everyone saying Inner Circle has run it's course. I also agree with the people saying Inner Circle doesn't have to break up. Because I'm playing both sides. (Its Always Sunny is the best lol). I think it would do PnP & Sammy a world of good to stop presenting them as Inner Circle members. You don't have to break up the group. Just phase out the Inner Circle mentions. Phase out the IC leather vests. They all already have their own music. The only way there has to be an on screen break up is if you have a good story for it with a purpose. Like if all along they had a lose backbone of an idea that Sammy has a fall from grace, snaps and turns on Jericho & takes The IC away from him then cool. But if you don't have a story in mind, just phase it out. Don't erase it. Let the characters stay friends. Hell even if PnP or Sammy turn heel, down the line Jericho can still do a run in to save them. They are boys. They're friends. But on screen they don't have to be stuck in one singular story. I really do love the presentation of Hook. But it's way too early for him to jump to no selling Rikishi Drivers. Taz wasn't doing the total no sell of Bam Bam Bigelow's offense in his second match. Then again Taz was built up with dominating wins for awhile (once he went from a beast of the forest or whatever to an MMA guy). This was match two for Hook. Wayyyyyy too fucking soon to A) let anyone get offense on him and B) him to be no selling a 350 pounder's Piledriver. I don't have anything against the trope in theory, but you need to build to it for it to make sense. Just jumping from stop 1 to step 13 was jarring. You take the Piledriver no sell out and I am fine with it. Replace the Piledriver with a different move that he doesnt sell if you must. Something lower on the totem pole, like a DDT or a Back Suplex would have been fine. I like Cody winning here. And I was very surprised they did a title change on a taped show and it hadn't gotten spoiled for me. Pretty surprising in 2021.

Love me an Iron Sheik gif but good god are you a negative Nancy in this thread lol. About half way through the thead I thought to myself like yeah maybe this guy should just turn off his Disney + and put something he enjoys on. Which I can only assume is either a compilation of puppy murders, or Brakkus matches. I put off watching this because the idea of a Hawkeye show didn't get me motivated. But I'll be damned if this isn't my favorite of the D+ shows so far. Glad I binged it too. I avoided all the weekly speculation that was wildly off lol. Yelana, Kingpin, pizza dog, Echo, even Hawkeye and Kate... everything landed for me in this one. Some light and goofy moments, killer action, engaging story. Lalo from Better Call Saul being a dapper sword wielding maniac. An owl swooping away with shrunken track suit thugs. Anyone who didn't like this show is just... wrong. I don't have any knowledge of the comics. I was never a comics guy. But I sure did buy the shit out of Marvel cards. I always liked the super hero art and creativity just not really into reading the comic books. So if this wildly differs from the source material, I could see that being annoying. But this was just note perfect to me for what I want out of these Disney shows. Florence Pugh is probably my favorite actor in the MCU now. Steals ever scene she;s in with that sarcasm and amazing comedic timing, even in serious scenes.

I didn't initially realize this myself, but saw it talked about in a video on Youtube. Every single big moment of the teenage years for MJ & Ned, Peter wasn't there. He was off doing Spiderman stuff. Like at the beginning of the movie they focus on a framed picture from home coming with Ned & MJ. Peter's not there. Because he left home coming to go fight The Vulture, so he wasn't there for their big picture. If you extrapolate that a little bit more I think this outcome is pretty plausible. Like if that same picture had MJ, Ned, & Peter taken one together they'd be like who the hell is this guy with us. But he was never there initially so there's less for them to question. He missed all the big documented moments. Sure if you wanna get super deep down the rabbit hole there would be pictures of them with him on their phones or whatever. But it's gonna be like weird who is this guy I took a picture with? I don't remember him. Me neither. Whatever some weird dude at a party I guess. Delete. All those New York Post covers and the cover of Time magazine had to have been erased by the spell too, so I assume any trace of him being revealed gets erased. Peter Parker was still born. Still has an ID and a social security card. But any trace or link to him being Spiderman was dusted away. Anyone that ever met Peter Parker has those interactions erased from memory as well. He exists but is basically starting over as if he was blipped into a timeline that he never existed in. It's not as convoluted as it seems. They just didn't waste the time to explain every aspect of it.

Hell of an episode this week. I really want this to be picked up as a full series going forward regardless of the outcome. But I sense there's going to be some kind of definitive closure for the Dexter character. (Either Harrison goes full on bad guy and kills him, or Kurt takes him out leading Harrison to take Kurt out). The New Blood series could live on without him as a living character, but only if they use Michael C Hall as the Harry for Harrison. Molly is as good as dead. If this season sticks to how a lot of the originals worked, she's going to find out the truth about Dexter. But right before she's able to get the word out or show her evidence she's going to get killed. And it's usually not by Dexter. I could see her finding out, Kurt getting her, her begging to get away by telling Kurt everything. Kurt kills her anyways. But now he knows everything and uses the knowledge of it against Dexter / Harrison. Really enjoying this season. The quality that was missing without Clyde Phillips is definitely back.

That Chicago Bear making a tackle and looking at The Steeler's bench... unsportsman like taunting. Tom Brady jogging to a coach on the opposite team and saying Go Fuck Yourself... totally fine, no penalty. Proof these taunting flags are bullshit and just there for the illusion of "cleaning up the game".

NFL contracts have guaranteed money. They may cut you before you get the entirety of the deal. But you still know the floor of what you will get no matter if they cut you or not. OBJ got released by The Browns. The Browns are still on the hook for a portion of his salary this year that was guaranteed because he went unclaimed on waivers. So not exactly the same there either. All I'm saying is making 11% of what they agreed to pay you sucks. And that there's no one here that can convince me that WWE is the baby face. Y'all know what Nick Kahn's annual salary is? $1.2 million. Plus a $5 million signing bonus. Plus $15 million in stock. You know what kind of severance the former VP they fired this year gets? $750k a month for an entire year. They treat their cooperate employees real well. So don't tell me they can't do better for the boys doing all the actual bumps.

All valid points and I agree with you. Owens and the Good Brothers are clearly on different levels. Just because Vince sees value in Owens today and likes him today, doesn't mean he always will. Vince loved Braun. Even wanted to program him with Taker at Mania out of the gate if the reports are true until he was talked out of it. And eventually whatever Vince liked about him didn't matter because he was deemed to not be worth the price tag anymore. That's what I'm railing against. Not beating the drum for The Good Brothers. Just trying to point out to the corporate sympathizes that beat the drum for WWE that WWE treats their guys like shit and you shouldn't "both sides" their terrible labor practices. But your take is entirely true here. I also want to mention how much is saddens me that standout big man on the indys Josh Briggs is now just a cowboy schlub. I'm sure his paychecks are better and shit. But man, as someone who enjoyed his work on the indys... bums me out.