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I'm still shocked he ever wrestled again after that Survivor Series match where Roman speared him out of the Coast to Coast and he got that ridiculous concussion. Like you're in your 50s dude with a family and probably all the money you could ever want. I get that performing is a hell of a rush, but everyone ages out of it eventually. And you have to come to grips with that.

Is there a Death Valley Pizza Review message board? I bet there's someone over there annoyed how all they're doing is talking about wrestling in this month's thread. 'Who gives a shit about missile dropkicks, has anyone tried that Little Ceaser's batman pizza??'

Fuck Doug Pederson and fuck any team willing to interview him. He lost all credibility when he purposely tanked the last game of the year last year. It prevented The Giants from getting the last playoff spot, but it also hurt the development of their QB. No integrity and any team willing to interview him is a joke. Jaguars are seemingly always a shit show now so par for the course. If they hire him they deserve to go lose 1,000 straight games. Not that I am the type of person to hold a grudge or anything....

Young boy with the most swag Joe Burrow or grizzled vet wasted for the first ten years of his career by a shit team Mathew Stafford. One of these two men will be a Super Bowl Champion. I wonder how Barry Sanders & Megatron are processing this. It's clear if they were able to get out of Detroit like Stafford did, they could have very well had Super Bowl opportunities too. Happy for Beckham. He got fucked by Gettleman in New York. Then sent to Browns hell to run routes for no real reason since Baker couldn't get the ball to him. Another example of talent breaking free from bad situations being a good idea. Also, we're doomed for a blowout aren't we? The playoff this year have been amazing. Every game from divisional round on was a one score game down to the last possession. We'll have to pay for that pleasure with a bad Super Bowl right? The football gods won't also bless us with a fun Super Bowl will they?

Also, it was St. Louis. Any reason they only had Orton in the Rumble for 3 minutes or whatever? He should have been somewhere around 8/9/10 and stayed until the end to give the home town audience someone to root for. Orton is big over there, and they really had him out in 3 minutes. Just doesn't make any sense.

I'm surprised everyone is chalking up Beck vs Doudrop have a quiet crowd due to anything except the building evacuation. The Wrestlemania sign caught on fire. They evacuated the entire side of the audience that sat on the sign side. They lowered the sign to the ground and put it out with fire extinguishers then raised it back it. I mean sure Doudrop isn't a pushed act. But that crowd was paying attention to that weird spectacle. There was even a "the building is on fire chant". Hard to have audience investment in this scenario. Dunn kept to super tight shots from only the 3 non evacuate sides to avoid it being on camera, but Becky even said that sign caught of fire because I'm straight fire, or something to that effect. The mixed tag got the shaft tonight. It was a really solid outing for that type of match. But they gave it the cool down death spot. After the big Brock match and before the "big" men's Rumble match. Bad show layout in my opinion. Men's Rumble was probably the worst Rumble they've ever done. Bottom two or three at least. Just no star power. They also announced 25 people, and just sent those 25 out first. You have to take the audience on a ride. Ups and downs and weaving stuff in and out to have a fun Rumble. You need to pepper those surprises in along the way for maximum effect. Also feel for Kofi. They made the right call calling it as a shoot since his feet hit. But that has to be a bummer to mess up a big spot like that and not get your planned shine in. The Rumble was ESPECIALLY dull during the 3 minutes after Kofi was out. You just know they had some planned stuff with him & Otis, and since he wasn't there they all pretty much stood around doing nothing. Don;t care about Lesnar winning. Their story didn't need the Rumble win. Whatever Lashley's match is gonna be did. But I feel apathy towards it, not annoyance. The sign caught of fire again after the Lesnar pyro too. Pretty fucking unsafe to risk that on a faulty sign setup that already caused an evacuation.

Anything that isn't a combat sport or appearing on a wrestling promotion's event would be allowed. Like not that he'd want to but he's free to drive for Uber or get a job at the post office right away or whatever lol. Concerts & signings are allowed (as long as it isn't a signing at a wrestling show). Just no wrestling stuff. I say combat sports because I would assume WWE would view someone showing up to hype a fight in UFC as breaking the no compete as well. I do think the language changed in the mid to late 00s. When Raven was fired in 2003 he opted out of the no compete to show up in early TNA and start a hot angle right away. He said no I don't want 90 extra days of pay, I want my freedom. I'm fairly sure you can't opt out of the non compete anymore. Because people like Matt Hardy were chomping at the bit to get in AEW. He certainly would have opted out of 90 days of pay to get his freedom if he was able to. So they have seemingly done away with the voluntary opt out.

As far as I understand they can't do indys unless they get an agreement from WWE allowing it. Now WWE has allowed this in the past a bunch with the agreement being no TV and no indy's that release DVDs nationally (like through Smart Mark or Highspots, as well as events on Fite and the like. But as a rule, no working for anyone else until the 90 days is up. That's a fair opinion to have. I judge it from a different perspective, especially when his initial contract should have already been done. But WWE adds time on now while you're out injured. That ACL tear and recovery added a bunch of time. If he didn't want to be there, and his initial date should have already come and gone, faking it is less egregious to me. But again I think it's pretty obvious he didn't fake anything. Agreed. Don't really have an excuse for him performing intoxicated. That was unprofessional.

This is how WWE structure deals. They can fire you at anytime. When you're fired you are blocked from doing anything in the pro wrestling / combat sport world for 90 days. You continue to be paid for 90 days and are legally still under your original agreement. But in essence that original deal is terminated the second they release you. You have to fulfill the 90 day no compete (unless a legal agreement is worked out with WWE to avoid it), but they can't just go and say we messed up we don't want to terminate you. It's too late. They would need to renegotiate a new agreement with you. The 90 day no compete is a way to stop you from making a deal and singing somewhere hot off being a news story. Being on Raw Monday, getting fired Tuesday, being on Dynamite Wednesday. It's shitty. But until it's challenged legally, it's just part of the business. No other company in the wrestling space can offer you a deal, nor negotiate one, until that 90 days is over.

This Jeff Hardy stuff is just hand wringing for the sake of hand wringing. It's very unlikely Jeff faked anything. The situation how I understand it is Jeff had been drinking. He started feeling shitty mid match and bounced. Because of his history WWE drug tested him (thinking it was recreational drugs), They released him regardless of the results because working while buzzed or drunk is not okay anymore. Jeff was offended by the optics of taking a drug test he knows he didn't fail, and still being released. It's wayyyyyyy less nefarious than people are speculating on. Jeff didn't trick anyone. All that said, woof. The amount of corporate white washing here saying Jeff was the underhanded dirty one is gross. There's some hard core boot licking corporate sympathizers around these parts. WWE (the company as a whole not specifically "evil Vince") use these people up and spit them out. They don't treat them like human beings. They treat them like cattle. Nameless faceless warm bodies to hit stock price numbers and nothing more. Jeff would certainly not be the bad guy for tricking the corporate entity making him work 50 times a year when he agreed to a limited schedule. I could rant for hours on that so I will finish with this... anyone siding with the corporate entity over real live human beings is a bad person.

Her misquote did effect the promo. But sports team heat is dicey. I mean yeah it always gets you heat. But sometimes it turns the crowd's attention from the segment. That happened in this case. They stopped listening and just started chanting "Here we go Brownies here we go". Britt is usually one of the best in ring promos in the company, but she was a little off here. She spammed the Browns Steelers stuff too much. There was even an audible JR groan at like the 9th or 10th reference. It didn't help that there really wasn't a point to the segment beyond the sports team spamming. No challenger to talk about. No match to build up. Minor miscue, chalk it up to a learning experience. She's still one of the best promos in the company.

Saying they should have kicked it into the field of play isn't exactly hindsight. Romo was saying it in the moment and said he thought it was a mistake. Holding the receivers at the line is brilliant and exactly what should have been done. Now is that great sportsmanship? No. But well within the rule. What feels better, playing "right" or winning? Yeah overtime needs to be changed. I just don't understand how so many of the decision makers are okay with the current format. You spend 60 minutes fighting back and forth. Both teams just pouring their heart out playing out of their minds. All of that relegated o a moot point based on how a coin flip goes. (out of the last 1 1 playoff OT games, 10 were won on the opening possession). You don't need to get cutesy with new rules. Just tweak it wo where the other team gets the ball no matter what. If KC scores a TD, cool. Now Buffalo gets the opportunity to tie it to keep the game going. OR if they score a TD, they can try to end it with a 2pt conversion. Much more drama and strategy involved there. keep the exact same rules. Just let the second team posses it no matter what. Get rid of the touchdown game over garbage.

What a bummer. Both games today were fucking great. But man... 13 seconds. How do you let them get that? They played some full on hail mary defense for no real reason, knowing a field goal would tie it. Sure play two way deep safeties but don't send five that far back. The extreme conservative defensive calls cost them that game. Even before today I would have been pissed if The Giants hired Leslie Fraiser. But after today, pffftt I will riot. One of the best QB performances ever, and THE best WR playoff performance ever... and the lead with 13 seconds. And they lost. Rough one for Bills fans.

If it's someone who has potential to get an AEW or WWE offer, sure that's an awful deal. If it's someone not on their radar $14k + whatever random indy paydays is... $14k more than you'd have without signing. While it does lock them in and potentially get them into a situation like Pillman Jr was in, I'll take $14k + X vs just X in a heartbeat. Or just the $14k. That's going to be significantly more money than just about any non-name makes in a year from indy wrestling. (85%-90% of working wrestlers out there not signed to deals).

Right, agree. This is wasted outrage. Who cares. It's just another Vince-ism. Is someone like Veer really a SUPERSTAR? No. But that's not literal. That's just the label they use instead of wrestler. And their label for former superstars that used to work for them (but hasn't been put in their HOF) is LEGEND. You know how Vince is about language. Probably thinks "former WWE superstar" makes it seem like they lost it and no one should care anymore. But god damn pal everyone pays attention to a legend.

That picture doesn't show under the goal post. Are we sure the 11th man wasn't under there waiting for a return possibility? Probably not, but just a thought. Turning into lolPackers and you just LOVE to see it. I can't stand The Packers nor Aaron Rodgers. So this was a wonderful outcome for me. My pre season Superbowl prediction is still alive too, Bills over Bucs baby. I like when we get some spice in the playoffs. Too many 1 vs 2 seed games in the Championship rounds of my youth. Love that both 1s were one and done. The curse of the lone bye.

Ben McAdoo with The Panthers? Will it be bowl cut McAdoo or slicked back mafia wanna be McAdoo? There's a big difference between the two. I am happy with The Giant's GM choice. I am pulling for Flores for HC, but with him being a defensive guy I am preparing myself to lose that battle. Dabol is not a sexy name to me. Even less so hearing he wants to bring Tribiski in with him. But I greatly prefer him to Dan Quinn. Like he is about the most bland head coach of all time. Him or Pat Shurmer. And we saw how that went. At least Dabol has shown he can mold a qb that's had a bad season into something closer to his potential. Daniel Jones / Mitch Tribiski are never going to turn into Josh Allen. But they could maybe hit prime Cincy Andy Dalton level until something better comes along.

Oh shit. I just noticed you're from Houston, Texas. Bruce Prichard is from Houston, Texas. I insulted Bruce Prichard. You said I insulted you. Did you... did you just out yourself as Bruce Prichard? It all makes sense now ? Edited to add : I wanted to end this on a lighter note, so that's why I added this dumb joke. I'm done now lol.

"I doubt you're befuddled even a little. Because it's a pretty obvious answer." That's an insult? Insinuating you are smart enough to not be confused by something is an insult? Dude trust me if I wanted to insult someone it would be much more direct. If you are "not bothering with my shit" there's a shiny ignore button. Hit that. But it's not going to have the functionality of stopping me from being able to quote your posts. Because that's one of the purposes here. And just for future reference since this site appears to be pretty user unfriendly for you, if you have a question you'd only like a response from only one certain poster on.... there's a private message function. Then no one else can add their two cents. Or use your question as a jumping off point. Or... gasp... quote you. I'll end by saying this. Me being unhappy with WWE's product has nothing to do with you. I have no personal agenda against you by speaking negatively of a wrestling product I don't currently enjoy. So please don't feel the need to defend their honor as if it's a shot at you. I'm not insulting you personally when I take a shot at WWE. Wouldn't think I'd have to specify that, but here we are.

Dude it's message board for discussion of wrestling. I'm adding to the discussion. You've pulled this before when someone else quoted you. That's how message boards work. I want to give you the benefit of the doubt as someone that just enjoys what he sees and wants to stick up for it. But you constantly get aggressive and shitty with people for using a message board... the way it's intended to be used. If you have such a problem with people adding their two cents to your opinions maybe a podcast is a better medium for you to not have to deal with any feedback in real time to your opinions? Also, leave you the fuck alone? Do you work for WWE? In what way did I say anything close to Eivion is a shitty man with shitty opinions, lets get him? Oh. I didn't. I added to the discussion by giving an answer to your question, but by also giving a legitimate reason why I think there's such an anti WWE sentiment in wrestling fandom. If you're taking that personally that's a YOU problem not a ME problem.

I doubt you're befuddled even a little. Because it's a pretty obvious answer. Just like why there's call in talk radio for sports and people call in talking shit on their favorite team. Fandom is fickle. But just because you hate the current management team of your favorite franchise and criticize all their moves, doesn't mean you can just walk away. At it's core WWE is what a lot of us grew up on. We'd like to like it. We just don't agree with a lot of the dumb management decisions. If you're entertained, cool. But doing dumb shit like putting a singlet on Keith Lee and calling him Bearcat for no reason is dumb as fuck to me, since Keith Lee was over AF both on the indies and on NXT. But I digress. And the truthful reason you see so much anti WWE sentiment is because once the tides turn it's almost impossible to turn it back. WCW was awesome as fuck up until a certain point. Then it became god awful trash so bad it could never be redeemed. When in reality in late 2000 they started righting the ship a bit. But it didn't matter. The tide rose so high there was no coming back. That's where WWE is the court of public opinion. I'm sure swimming against the tide with your thoughts gets frustrating but it's never going to change at this point. WWE is going to be ragged on until there's a major management shakeup for the better. I know Vince takes all the heat (and he deserves a lot of it) but the truth is the decline of creative coincides 1,000% with Bruce Prichard's return. He's bringing out Vince's worst instincts and until something changes there, WWE is gonna stay being the red headed step child.

Ah so we now have confirmation Vince's pop culture knowledge has hit at least 1989 / The Simpsons. Because there's no way Vince isn't basing this new Gunter character off of Gunther from The Simpsons...

Hard disagree. At least in my opinion. Adding Rampage has been subtraction by addition for me. Throw in The Battle of the Belts deal and AEW is actually producing too many first run hours for me to keep up with already. Wish they stayed at just 2 hours of Dynamite. But that's just me maybe. If they add any more it's gonna start to overwhelm people tho. They're already burning out the live audiences taping Rampage after Dynamite.

This doesn't count the 42 random shots of him watching from the crowd we've had to endure on Dynamite & Rampage lol.