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  1. As I said in the pics thread about the Marina & Rosa picture... That's the most "Please start liking me again internet" picture I have ever seen ? You gotta admire the thought process but that's the most dishonest peace offering picture of all time.
  2. That's the most "Please start liking me again internet" picture I have ever seen ? You gotta admire the thought process but that's the most dishonest peace offering picture of all time.
  3. That Dax vs Ospreay match. ??? I think Dax might be my favorite worker currently. Loved the ladder match. And sometimes even when you know a moment is coming, it still delivers. And that was a great turn by Christian. Christian vs Jungle Boy is going to be a money feud. Also like that the women are still represented on the PPV even tho there's no AEW vs NJPW component. Leaving women off completely would have been a mistake. Hoping for a Toni win. Did not like the layout of the Wardlow deal. But that's nit-picky, it was mostly fine.
  4. I imagine as we all workshop our scenarios here, Vince is in his office re-writing Smackdown for the 17th time this week. Prichard knocks and asks if he's able to knock off a few hours early due to all the damage control they'll be doing tomorrow. Vince gives his fake announcer chuckle and says something along the lines of 'god damn pal damage control? The US government couldn't take me down why would you think a run in on a beautiful woman will? It's business as usual. Get back in your office and get me 13 Veer promos to approve. He's a male model now make sure you write in some good one liners about the funny faces models make.'
  5. This is an interesting story to follow. In virtually every instance of something like this happening the CEO / Chairman would be ousted. But the way WWE is structured, there's not much they can do if Vince fights it. The question is, how stubborn is he? Is he willing to tank the company to stay in power? Lose out on sponsors and business partners and shareholders? Go back to lean and mean years where they're taking water coolers out of the office? Or is 76 years old a good enough time to call it a day, retire, and find a hobby? Vince has zero interests outside of WWE. He doesn't watch movies or tv or sports or go golfing or any of that shit. If he bows out and has to sit on his ass he'll go nuts. So buckle up, this crazy old man will probably try to fight it.
  6. The words arrogance and condescension are now represented by two letters on this board. I'm sure yall can read between the lines there.... moving on... I was active in the Jeff conversation in the main pro wrestling thread yesterday before AEW put out their press release. I am totally good with how it shook out. It was equal parts compassion & consequences. My position was never that he should be allowed to get away with it and it's no big deal. My stance was let's not pile on and ban him from the business when he needs help. He has to live with consequences from his poor judgement and reckless behavior. I'm okay with that. I'm just glad he wasn't fired and isn't banned for life like lots of people wanted. If he takes this serious and truly rehabilitates himself, I hope people wont be so harsh on AEW giving him another chance. He's a valuable performer and can and does deserve to have another run for all he's given to the business. *IF* he gets clean. Sorry I'll let yall get back to DVDR Dinners Drive ins & Dives now ?
  7. Honestly that makes a lot of sense now that you mention it. And with WWE officially working with Vice now, that makes their stance on the suit even weaker. 'How did we hurt MLW, we didn't even have an official relationship with Vice.' Well you do now, and it's really bad optics.
  8. I'm gonna tap out on this one. I'll just end up blowing up the thread with post quotes and that's not good for any of us lol. The above post by (BP) is sad to me. Addiction is a disease. And it's just not as simple as turning a light switch on and off. The biggest main event fuckup in wrestling history? Weird. There's a guy that murdered his whole family and himself. But Jeff is more of a fuckup than even him? Because he drove drunk? And wrestled high in 2011? Okay. I've known close friends in the business that have dealt with addiction. Being harsh and judgemental is not as effective as compassion is. But you guys do you.
  9. Drug trafficking means taking large amounts of drugs and distributing them / planning to selling them. The charges are based on the quantity you poses vs actually doing any of those actions. So he had giant quantities of drugs. He never actually trafficked anything tho. I feel like that distinction is important here. Because all he was actually guilty of was having a shit ton of drugs. Harming himself, but no one else. Using that as a smoking gun to why what he did is more wrong than Jimmy is a little intellectually dishonest. That's a hobby. He's not paying the bills on music. He's blowing off steam and creating art, just like the weird painting and sculpture shit. None of those are jobs, it's just hobbies he does to escape reality. We agree here. All we have are optics right now and optics can be deceiving. Was he fucked up from drinking or drugs at Double or Nothing? It's possible. And if he was then I'm 3000% on your side here. But all I'm saying is let's use actual proof to condemn instead of the eye test. Because the eye test can be a mirage. Concussions can look like being fucked up. So what's been reported could plausibly still be the truth. This is a fair point. He's getting fucked up now, so he has issues that need dealt with. But he doesn't get fucked up because he hates wrestling. He loves wrestling. Whatever the underlying issues are, my point is if you take his passion away from him it's going to be a much tougher road to actually getting better. It's making the walls close in on him. I get tough love and all that. But he has an addiction. If you take away something he loves, that's a good way to drive him further into his addiction. He'll feel like he has nothing left and go deeper into self medicating. And that's not a recipe for success on kicking an addiction and actually getting him healthy. Here's my main point with this whole situation. I'm on board with you if he's working intoxicated. But no one has proven that he has. It looks like he did at the end of his WWE run. It looks like he did at Double or Nothing. And if it can be proven, action needs to be taken. But it's also plausible he wasn't drunk. DoN could have been the concussion. WWE could have been a bunch of things. Just because he hit his hot tag and left doesn't mean he was intoxicated. He wasn't wrestling like a drunk person. None of the heat he took that night was wonky. Maybe he was just in a weird headspace. Or maybe he was drunk. But let's not convict him of guilt sight unseen of any proof. Drinking & driving has no bearing on how safe a dude's life is in his hands during a wrestling match. So everyone demanding his head on a spike due to being a liability in the ring really need to be armed with facts & evidence, and not just "I think" statements. I think he was drinking. I think he was fucked up. Okay well prove it and we're on the same page. Innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around. He should not be punished and kicked out of the business based on appearances. The guy has an addiction and that shit is not easy to overcome. So instead of pilling on lifetime bans here, we should be focused on trying to help him. Not punish him. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
  10. Jesus that's a bit extreme... He made a very poor decision and did something ethically and morally wrong. And it's not the first time he's done it. But how does driving drunk relate to him never being able to work again? So you're saying if he goes to rehab and gets clean, he still shouldn't ever be allowed to wrestle again? Come on. Dude has an addiction issue and we all want him to get better. But all these posts about him retiring or being banned from ever working again because of it are way overboard. Where's this same energy for Jimmy Uso who is guilty of the exact same thing (3 DUIs in 10 years)? We need to put it in perspective here. He should absolutely be given extended time off to focus on getting better. But he didn't murder anyone. He didn't kidnap anyone. He isn't guilty of anything violent or anything involving another person being harmed in any way (luckily). So let's dial back the lifetime ban from the business stuff. This is the only job this guy has ever known. If you take that away from him do you really expect him to be happy & fulfilled enough in life to stay clean?
  11. I know you're from Houston, so maybe very good advice based on Texas laws. I live in PA. As condition to receiving a license you sign away your rights to refuse a sobriety test. You can say no, but that is automatically considered a guilty plea in The Commonwealth of PA. Not only can you not say no to a sobriety test, you can't say no to blood being drawn / urine test / breathalyzer or else you are automatically guilty. So if you have a legitimate fear of needles and they decide they want to draw blood, you have no recourse. You can't pick one or the other or anything like that. It's police discretion and you get no choice in the matter. And refusing is an automatic acceptance of guilt. So let's add a citation to your post based around that advice being the legal advice for Texas only. You're trying to get some licenses taken away in PA with that advice lol.
  12. But how would Jericho get his new haircut if Ortiz is busy? lol
  13. AEW's audience is much younger and socially conscious than what I would consider the average WWE audience. But even still, that only extends so far. I do think a chunk of the audience would be really put off if he's in the match. But the other chunk won't know any different and will be cheering just as loud as usual. Drinking and driving is a heinous thing to do. It's morally reprehensible. But I don't think it registers as high with the average person as we would like it to. Again I will be very happy to be proven wrong on all of this. I don't want him to be on the show until he gets help. AEW has about 10 teams that are legitimately believable to insert here instead of The Hardys. Or as has been mentioned Matt & Darby together. Or even Matt & Sting or whatever. I'd prefer Team Taz or FTR or The Lucha Brothers or Ropongi or like 5 or 6 other acceptable teams here. I'm just skeptical it will happen.
  14. I'm sure this will not be a post that gets many likes... and I don't like that it'll be happening either but... I don't see them pulling Jeff from the match. He's out on bond. His court date is tomorrow. They will handout whatever fine & community service and mandatory rehab treatments they hand out... and he'll be free to do whatever he wants on Wednesday. If he is sober and can effectively work (by whatever standards they use), they'll let him be in the match. I mean Jimmy Uso had the same thing happen and he didn't miss any time. That was also his third DUI in 10 years. I'll be happy to be proven wrong on this. But as long as Jeff Hardy is available to work, and wants to work, I don't see him being pulled from the match.
  15. That match graphic is dope. Dig the graphic style and both people getting Japanese Kanji under their name, since it is a joint show meant to be viewed by both countries.
  16. Just a couple notes since I just got around to watching this. That's what O'spreay sounds like? His accent was extra thicc to the point I thought he was working some new character lol. He also did not look very good. I didn't watch his NJPW main event run, last I really saw of him was the Ricochet stuff. And I did enjoy that stuff a lot. But this match didn't even seem like the same performer. On the whole tho that main event was pretty solid. Mustache dude in OE looked the best. Young looking guy & O'spreay didn't really mesh well with FTR. Also WHY OH WHY did they let him wear out The Rev Pro Title? TOO. MANY. BELTS. Ugh. Stalander vs Velvet was Velvet's best match. But I wish they dialed down the kickouts in this one. Stat hit that dope roll though German into the Low Ki deal and the crowd was HOT. They wanted that to be the end. But Velvet kicked out. Then Velvet got some falseys in. They went past the peak and ended on the downward slope. Would have been better to hit The Big Bang Theory (fuck that shitty new name BTW) after the roll through German and end it there. That said, this angle is def working. Athena is over. Statlander is over. Jade is over. The whole baddies thing is over. The TBS Title story is reallllyyyyy eclipsing the women's world title by quite a bit right now. Also also, I'm low key annoyed Statlander isn't an alien anymore. I think that added more to her than being generic power lady. But I may be in the minority there. Regardless, she's the woman on the roster I most enjoy watching.
  17. I agree with his assessment. That's the way it looked to me too. But I'm also biased because I've noticed how poorly Rosa treats a lot of the enhancement talents too. It's a story of two Rosas. She treats people she sees as on her level one way, and she treats people she perceives as below her another way. At least those are the optics I've picked up on.
  18. Not quite what I was looking for. That's a gimmick. I meant a straight up someone was just DQ'd for closed fist punching. No heel authority figure involvement or special ref deal. Just someone being DQ'd for it straight up. I'll go ahead and assume Eivion & Blue Dragon are right and they made it "officially" legal 2008. But unofficially no one ever got DQ'd for it to my recollection. (Outside of gimmickry).
  19. Not harsh enough. This is a situation where he should have lost his job. One, because he's Jack Del Rio and he's not very good. But two, because spreading lies and hate about BLM is dangerous and wrong. How many of his players are going to have some anger towards him over it? How effective can he be if he's lost the players already? Weak move.
  20. I'll take the under. Cena is super human so we shouldn't use him as the measuring stick. But he tore his pec off the bone in October of 2007 and was back in time for The Rumble 4 months later. This is WWE purposely extending the time frame some when he comes back in 6 months it's a surprise. He'll be back by The Rumble. And odds on favorite to win it.
  21. Hogan's comeback involved punches to back them to the rope to send off for his big boot. So in WWE closed fists have been legal since 1984ish it would appear. They wouldn't have had their tippy top squeaky clean babyface breaking the rules and cheating to win, would they? Frowned upon? Sure. But not illegal. At least that's always how I interpreted it. Did anyone ever get DQ'd in WWE for closed fist punching after 1984?
  22. I don't watch the weekly TV. Have they mentioned anything about the winner goes on to Wrestlemania thing Cody said in that announcement video for the show?
  23. I can answer this one for you. It is way easier to layout and format a few hot spots in a battle royal that everyone is already in there to begin with. 5, 6, 7, 8, people get penciled in for a nice spot that you can time out evenly. A royal rumble is also easier to layout and format. One person in every so often so you can structure a narrative and a pacing. When you're throwing FIVE people in there all at once you just can't format that well. Even the newer format where the five guys have subsequent entrances vs all coming out at once hasn't done a good job alleviating it. You got Dante about to hit a cool spot on Fenix and the camera pulled away to show the next person's entrance and missed the shot. It just doesn't work as well to string along narratives or pacing with nothing, then boom a burst of five dudes trying to shine at the same time. Either do an old fashioned everyone in battle royal, or do a royal rumble. Trying to come up with their own original format has just fallen flat.
  24. Fair point in theory, but now explain why China is on there lol
  25. The European Title didn't have a flag of like Brazil on it tho did it lol If you have a region specific title the least you can do is not fuck up and put things not a part of that region on the title. 'Hey guys here's your new World Title with Mars on it. What? I know it's annoying but should probably just deal with it.' Sorry dawg I'm just not in favor of allowing and supporting purposeful inaccuracies that just act to lower the threshold of average intelligence in society. ?
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