Archibald
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Random thoughts:
Yoh/Sho was disappointing. Going in it looked like it was supposed to be a feud ender, but it was just a match. Weaker than their first and definitely weaker than their BotSJ match. And next day Sho did beat Yoh in tag match. Baffling decisions.
I don't think that there is anything wrong with Tananashi tag team match ending with a DQ. It is a preview match for another day so it should build towards it and a lead up to NO DQ match ending in a DQ to me makes perfect sense.
Ishii/Evil was so bad it was funny. But then I stopped laughing and wanted to cry.
Yoshi/Goto vs Taichi/ZSJ was great and I'm very happy that Yoshi got this. He was the heart behind their great trios title run and worked his ass off in WTL. Nice to see that hard work pays off.
Shibata/Narita, Desperado/Hiromu, Cobb/Naito, both Okada main events were great.
Tanahashi/KENTA was absurd. If nobody is injured then images of Tanahashi jumping from the ladder and bloody table will likely become iconic images going forward. I usually don't like bullshit matches, but that ending was so insane that it is likely my MOTY at the moment.
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Pretty good list, only two matches that I feel like aren't Top 20 material are Tanahashi/Omega and Nakamura/Sakuraba.
I think that I'd add G1 semi-final Naito/Omega match to the list. Maybe one of Naito/Ibushi matches, but I can see why someone would skip them on principle.
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What kind of a tournament it is? Tag teams?
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2 hours ago, Sublime said:
I feel like the lack of Ospreay on the card is tipping their hand on his chances of winning on night 2. I’d assume they’d want their top champ on this show and really it would make sense to have it on either Shingo or Okada based on the lineup. I feel like the card does the same for NOAHs upcoming Nakajima/Go match cause being matched against EVIL is a terrible thing for a top champ to be doing.
I think that nobody from UE getting booked is a bit weird. You'd think that Cobb/O-Khan or Cobb/O-Khan/Henare would be better than having 3 Suzuki Gun matches. 2 Bullet Club matches probably could also be combined into one.
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Card announced for NJPW/NOAH show and it is all tags with one single match between Sho and Atsushi Kotouge.
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Either surprise Ibushi return or an outsider. Nothing else really comes to mind?
Yoh/Sho and Naito/Cobb are looking like #1 contender matches for New Beginning shows.
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So looks like we are getting:
Tanahashi/KENTA no DQ match for USA title
Eagles/Tiger Mask vs ELP/Ishimori vs Taguchi/?? 3-way for Junior tag titles
Goto/Yoshi vs ZSJ/Taichi for tag titles
Hiromu/Desperado for Junior title
Naito/Cobb because why not
Sho/Yoh part 3
and Shibata match
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Tanahashi has called out KENTA in his last comments for USA title and ZSJ obviously got tag team match. Scary thing is that Ishii is NEVER champ and at the moment doesn't have any obvious opponent. I think it would be very Shibata to go straight to the type of match that everyone wants him to avoid. And you are probably not going to convince Shibata and Ishii that they shouldn't do couple of headbutts.
It would be totally random, but I probably would prefer if we got Shibata/Khan instead of Shibata/Ishii. Khan/ZSJ from G1 was one of the best matches this year (at least for me) and I think he could work similar match with Shibata.
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On 12/12/2021 at 7:30 AM, Ziggy said:
I hope it's not the end. Listening to Meltzer he seems to believe that they are still in a better position than Impact is. Seeing all those guys say goodbye to ROH though really hit me that it could be the end though
How is that supposed to work when Impact is running shows and RoH isn't?
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Card for WTL/juniors finals: https://www.njpw1972.com/tornament/104935?showCards=1
Looks like the role for House of Torture is to get far enough to annoy people and then lose. Happened with Evil in G1. Sho in BotSJ and now here probably same is going to happen.
Either way big news is that Shibata is going to have some announcement on this show.
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On 12/10/2021 at 4:38 AM, D.Z said:
It's gonna happen anyways. Best to hope whoever it is, takes no chairshots to the head or excessive roids. Also knows that headbutt to the shoulder is safer.
In other news, Tokyo Sports has selected Kobashi and Chono as legends and members of the special selection committee for the Pro Wrestling Awards.
Why even bother then.
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LA Dojo vs UE multiman was one of the better multimans I have seen in a while.
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On 11/20/2021 at 9:54 AM, Gordberg said:
You could pretty easily do NJPW vs "Dudes who have been released by WWE and not yet signed up by Tony Khan" and it would be an excellent show. Tell me you don't want Keith Lee vs, say, Shingo or, like, Tucky vs Ishii.
Yeah, but I guess that it wouldn't be financially viable to book (get visas and so on) so many new guys for one show.
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Aren't they waiting a bit too long for that Moose/Alexander rematch? As I understand Hard to Kill will take place in January, no?
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So that explains how they'll fill three WK shows. Not being available for a week doesn't sound exciting, but at the same time I'll be surprised if the show will have many singles matches or tag matches without obvious fall guy.
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13 hours ago, Salads said:
I'm not confused at all by the current belt-holding situation, but I'm wondering how many consecutive years they'll feel the need to keep setting up these double night title match scenarios.
Probably as long as we get double dome shows. Which makes me wonder, what was the original plan? Because surely they didn't plan that Ospreay is going to vacate the title, or did they?
Anyway, to me it looks like Goto/Yoshi/Yoh vs Evil/Yujiro/Sho is going to be WK title match for trios belts.
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Narita/Ospreay probably MOTN?
This was first time I saw Buddy and I wouldn't miss any sleep if I never saw him again.
Really have no clue whats next for White asides of going to WWE or AEW.
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Ospreay is pretty much doing "I never lost" angle that has probably been done dozens of times before him. Some probably have used belt replica in the past as well.
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1 hour ago, Belgian_Waffle said:
Right so why reinforce that by making him a kayfabe placeholder champion? And long-term Shingo is a much more reliable ace than the other two given that he's much less injury-battered (and, in the case of Ospreay, in an entirely different league in terms of his work but that part is subjective)...so why lean into the idea that he's just running around with a fake belt until Okada, Ospreay and Ibushi are back again?
I was thinking at one point that maybe they should give G1 to Shingo to make him look "real", but since that didn't happen then I feel like there is no point in pretending that Shingo is anything, but placeholder.
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9 hours ago, Belgian_Waffle said:
It's even dumber than you think, probably. I tried to get back into watching NJPW over the last few weeks but even compared to my usual quibbles with NJPW's anti-hoss title scene, the multiple belts and long distance title shenanigans with Ospreay make the whole product feel illegitimate by association. Shingo on top has been on paper the best booking decision Gedo has made since Omega lost the belt and he's effectively sabotaged his own top guy by having him compete for status with two other dudes carrying fake titles around.
Ospreay and Okada are more important than Shingo so its not surprising to me at all. Lets not forget why Shingo is the champ in the first place.
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Wasn't Shingo announced for this as well?
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I know we all have our favourite eras, but I think at this point it is a bit ridiculous to bring up guys like Pearce or Gabe.
6 hours ago, HumanChessgame said:Wasn't ROH supposedly trying to rebrand itself with more of an emphasis on the "pure rules" business?
It is just a one division. "Normal" matches far outnumber pure rules matches.
As for the news, it looks like it could go either way. If Final Battle flops and they can't figure out hot new direction then that might be that for RoH. On the other hand if FB is a hot show and they manage to sustain interest then the reboot might work out. But looking at RoH's track record I'd bet on this being the beginning of the end.
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Surprisingly Desperado/Kanemaru lost Jr. tag titles to TigerMask/Eagles. One last run for Tiger?
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First major show after NJPW decides to have more matches on shows:
Fujita/Oiwa vs Kanemaru/DOUKI
TigerMask/Honma/Makabe vs Gedo/Jado/Tanga
Wato/Taguchi/Nagata vs Hiromu/Bushi/Sanada
Yoshi/Goto/Ishii vs Sho/Yujiro/Evil for trios titles
Yano vs O-Khan for KOPW thing
Eagles vs Desperado for Junior title
Tanahashi vs KENTA for USA title
Okada vs Tama for briefcase
Shingo vs ZSJ for world heavyweight title
We'll get three Road To shows streamed, two of them have elimination main events, while last one (10/26) has Eagles/TigerMask vs Desperado/Kanemaru for jr. tag titles. And Henare is back.
I don't know, I could have lived without these three undercard tags. Only the one with young lions makes sense to me. To me good thing about "less matches" cards were that lots of fat was cut. If it was me I'd just move trios title match to one of the Road To shows that has elimination match for main event and drop second and third matches entirely.
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NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 2022: 1/4, 1/5 and 1/8
in JAPAN
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I'll watch it when it gets uploaded on NJPW World, but from what I heard highlights are young lions match, LiJ vs Kongo and main event.