Go2Sleep
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It's possible I'm very out of touch, so I'm asking this non-glibly: Does the "Living Dead Girl" moniker contradict Abadon's non-binary pronouns?
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Brody has been the most inspired choice for the tournament because he has the two most surprising results and they both made sense.
Didn't mind Swerve getting screwed, it just sets up his revenge tour down the stretch.
The tag title setup was indeed one of the worst segments in Dynamite history. Kinda get the feeling everybody involved was like "Yeah, yeah, we'll just go out and wing it" and then they all got caught with their pants down as everyone was going in wildly different directions. Kenny had some ok lines, but his delivery was way off. Jericho's material was some of his worst ever. Ricky thinks he can do these free-form roasts, but he can't. All he ever has is hoping the other person drops the ball so he can say "ha, didn't get a pop for that one, did ya?" Bill just stood there looking like idiot after months of rehabbing as a serious threat.
How about, Jericho's pissed because they tried to break his arm, Kenny wants gold, and Ricky/Bill are outwardly cocky but low-key scared the Jets could be better at the "2 singles guys go for the tag titles" thing? No need for cutesy roasts, just tell a damn pro wrestling story.
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Tony doing PBP is fine, it's Nigel and Kevin Kelly that are the problem. I dare say replacing Kelly with JR would be an improvement at this point. I was hoping after a couple months, Nigel would realize he's not in WWE anymore and therefore does not need to pretend to be JBL, but instead he's just gotten worse and leaned into the worst parts of his act to the point that he's hurting nearly every match.
If they're filming Collision and ROH together most weeks, I don't understand why they don't just have the perfectly competent Ian/Caprice duo do commentary with Tony. Or use Paul Wight if you want a more recognizable guy.
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Show is right on track for the usual "They haven't set up a damn thing for a ppv 2 weeks away, what kind of operation is this?" -> "The final card looks decent, I might check it out." -> "That was an awesome show, totally over-delivered." AEW ppv routine.
Matches I expect to be added:
Golden Jets vs. Ricky and Bill for the tag titles
FTR vs. HOB (Malakai and Buddy)
Julia vs. Abadon for the TBS title
Toni vs. Riho for the women's title
Penta/Komander/Vikingo vs. Top Flight
Copeland vs. Christian with some kind of gimmick
Menard/Saraya vs. Parker/Ruby
I expect the CC Finals to be Swerve/Danielson, and then have Mox/Claudio/Wheeler vs. OC/Hook/Beretta, but I'd love to see them go Swerve/Brody with Danielson and Romero added to tag.
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12 hours ago, Technico Support said:
Commentary on this show was rough.
Nigel and Kevin Kelly are so bad. Tony working with Excalibur and Tazz is great because it's like working with a coked-up Tenay and New York Dusty. On collision he's working with a worse Scott Hudson and British Mark Madden.
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13 hours ago, Craig H said:
In fact, when was the last time a real life couple working an angle with each other actually worked and was good?
Johnny and Candice in The Way?
But yeah, the Miro/CJ angle is weird. It's hard to see what the payoff is because supposedly Andrade is leaving soon. I guess Miro dispatches Andrade and then CJ gets her real client who could believably take out Miro, but that plays better if Miro isn't doing the "foreigner with backwards gender views" thing. He never should've dropped the redeemer stuff, just found a way to work CJ into that.
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I was more down on this episode of Dynamite than most I guess.
The CC has just been good matches for the sake of good matches, but no real surprises other than Eddie being 0 for 2. The longer time limits have just made every match a decent TV main with no chance of a draw or upset. Jay White's heel/heel work has been nice, but I don't see what this accomplishing other than stat-padding for the higher-ranked guys. Mox/Rush as a double count out early would've made perfect sense and given the actual tournament and post-tournament more intrigue (an excuse for BCC and LFI to mix it up). The format has potential, but "everybody go out and have the best 18-minute match you can while keeping the rankings in tact" is already wearing thin with me and we're not even halfway through.
Why was MJF going heel on Hanger? Makes no sense for a guy trying to turn over a new leaf to just step in and shit all over a guy who's down on his luck. I know the answer was to set up the red herring with the beer bottle, but that was some lazy writing.
Cope/Christian was a good match until the finish. The thing with family member heel turns is that the family member actually has to have some charisma and acting ability, which Shayna Wayne does not. Her son doesn't really either, but at least he's smooth in the ring beyond his years. Christian is a miracle worker, but making this dark version of The Way into something watchable would be his biggest feat yet.
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That would actually be a good story. Eddie finally has a good year, but gets too deep into the 90s AJ cosplay and eats shit. Lots of directions you could take that. His reaction after getting rolled up by an 0-4 Garcia in the final garbage time match would be priceless.
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That would've been a must-see match in 2007. Haven't seen Maru in years, but if he's looking as washed as Ibushi these days (which wouldn't be surprising given his style), then yikes.
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Also, just watching Collision... Was something wrong with Gravity in that match? Dude was botching everything from the word go, and moving at a speed that made it look like he was trying all these spots for the first time.
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3 hours ago, zendragon said:
I guess that makes Bryan the equivalent of "shop steward"
As a union guy, I gotta say big NO to this. Unions don't work with management to help fire other members.
Not a big fan of TK just legitimizing a wrestler's court for his personnel decisions. I know these guys are his heroes, but at some point, you have to understand they are real people and your real employees too. He should've just paid Bryan some extra money to put that tweet under his name.
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2 hours ago, Gordlow said:
It is for me!
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This is definitely a heat-of-the-moment overreaction, BUT... I also think losing QT is unironically worse than losing Punk. Not for anything on-screen obviously, but having a never-WWE guy in a position of creative and development is an underrated aspect of having and sustaining a truly alternative product.
That said, I think if they build around their real 4 pillars of MJF, Ospreay, Swerve, and Hangman, they'll be fine.
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Cody was the only one of those three that mattered and he's been gone for nearly 2 years and AEW is trucking along at the same pace. Punk was on TV for like a month of his last year with the company and everyone was ready to move on from him. Jade was pushed hard, but was never a key piece of anything. Stat did more for the secondary belt in a few months than Jade did in her whole 60 match streak.
If there's one thing that's become abundantly clear over the last couple of years, it's that WWE is the clear #1, AEW is a healthy #2, and no amount of talent movement changes that.
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Swerve would work just because it's Swerve and people are ready to see him get the belt.
I like the idea of Britt Baker being the devil over Cole, but I don't trust AEW creative or announcers to pull it off.
33 minutes ago, TheVileOne said:This is the beginning of the end of AEW.
If this is about Punk, lol, no it's not. Just as he didn't vault AEW past WWE, he won't widen WWE's lead or shrink AEW's base either.
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I don't watch too much WWE anymore, but I was getting snowed in so decided to give this show a look.
Miz fighting for his life against Gunther was some good shit, and Rhea and Santos still rule. The WG matches all kinda ran together.
After watching, I can say Gunther is the only person who should beat Roman in a modern Hogan vs. Warrior type match. If they aren't gonna do that, just let Roman pass Bruno at this point.
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Gold group is fucking sick. Even though Lethal is a step below the other guys, he should be fighting for his life against all of them, so the dynamic is interesting.
Blue group is fine, but it feels like we've seen most of those match-ups in the past year or so. Brody is the only fresh match for most of them (not that it isn't a great match) and Danielson/Eddie will be interesting.
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I have no idea what Pac is up to, but he should be in this if he's healthy.
My original idea for this tourney was to have Swerve win. He would lose his first match to Wheeler Yuta, then have to win out, eventually beating Danielson in a "win and in" match. He would beat Eddie in the finals. After that death match, though, I don't know that Swerve needs this tourney as much. I also don't think he should face MJF unless he can win, and I don't know if that can happen in NY, unless Swerve is the devil (which is workable I guess). In NY, you could run MJF vs. anyone and be fine, so that's where I'd put the Joe match which probably doesn't sell as a ppv main anywhere else. Swerve vs. MJF seems like a natural Revolution main, it's just a matter of keeping Swerve hot in the mean time. The tournament would go a long way to do that and Triple Crown Swerve vs. 2-belt MJF just screams awesome ppv poster.
My other option is kinda boring, but Kenny Omega. With Danielson winding down, it's back to just Kenny as the king-maker for a bit. He's dropped a lot of falls this year, and something like this gives him a lot of wins culminating with a sure-fire epic while keeping him out of the world title picture. I respect him putting guys over, but you gotta keep yourself strong too or else those "rubs" get diminishing returns real fast.
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I feel like the thing that needs to be acknowledged the most in the main was MJF's ballsy-ass, all-time botch-recovery. That weak table could've easily ground the match to a halt as that was clearly one of the biggest planned spots. However, MJF didn't miss a beat and just went to the top did the elbow straight to the floor. Makes perfect kayfabe sense and he had about 5 seconds to figure out to best land for a much more dangerous version of the planned spot. Amazing stuff under pressure from MJF that shows why he is one of the best going today.
Overall, I wasn't crazy about the sports entertainment style main at first, but by the end, I had to admit they pulled it off well and it felt different at least, if not bigger, than the rest of the card. Adam Cole played his part very well, blurring the lines of whether he was the devil trying to throw the match or if he was the most genuinely virtuous-to-the-point-of-incompetence babyface friend of all time. One could argue the devil should've thrown in the towel or that true friend would've taken the match with Jay and immediately whacked him with a crutch, but I think they generally did the nuance very well. I don't think Jay comes out looking all that bad. His role here was ultimately to be a heater for MJF, and they ultimately had a great back-and-forth moves-y match, they just got there in a different way. MJF out-cheated him at the end, and Jay can easily rebound with a good Continental Classic showing or any other number of feuds.
You knew Swerve/Hangman was gonna be off the charts when Page was literally drinking Swerve's blood and Swerve was walking through staple gun shots to the chest like the T-1000 in the first 5 minutes. Crazy shit where both guys came out looking good.
The rest of the card was solid and all the right people went over. At first I was a little disappointed with no devil reveal, but thinking about it later, I admire the restraint. Much better to let the story play out than rush "a moment" just because it's a ppv.
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It's good to see most of the elite get back to the best versions of themselves. Fired up Hangman and whiny Bucks are where it's at.
The arena brawl was fun as usual. I thought they did a good job protecting Hobbs and definitely made Cage look a lot better than they had to with as much as it took put him down too. I loved Kota running in with the shovel after the pin and being like "Oh, we won?"
I like that they're putting some effort into explaining MJF's babyface tropes, particularly why he wants to be a fighting champion all of a sudden after years of doing as little as possible. One thing I'm very sure of, there's no way TK is doing a "higher power" angle where the devil is MJF. I'll admit I'm excited for the reveal, even if the most likely candidates are disappointing.
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39 minutes ago, zendragon said:
I would imagine that AAA doesn't want their champion doing a bunch of jobs.
Based on Vikingo's tenure in AEW, I'm gonna say they either don't mind or whoever is in charge doesn't watch AEW.
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If we're guessing the field, I think there should be a "King of the Ring" mentality where this tourney should showcase your young studs, but champs should generally stay out. The winner of the tournament getting a guaranteed world title shot as another thing on MJF's plate would be fine.
My field would be Danielson, Yuta, Garcia, Fletcher, Swerve (winner), Kingston, Darby, Matthews, Hangman, and Takeshita. The luchador would be Vikingo if available. If not, then Fenix. If he's not healthy, then Penta. The Euro spot would go to ZSJ if available. Claudio if not, I guess.
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If they did a 10 or 15-minute time limit for the matches, it would be interesting. Encourage more sprinting and leave plenty of room for draws to make the standings work. Not interested in a tournament with 60 epic matches.
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On 11/10/2023 at 12:11 PM, Zimbra said:
A special 'most improved' award to Big Bill
Bill was already noticeably better during his time in Impact. I think getting canned by WWE was a big wake up call for him. It's just taken a while to sink in that this isn't the same guy that ran around with Enzo, and now he's actually featured as a champion.
I'd say Skye Blue has shown the biggest talent jump this year. The endless losses to Ruby and Toni didn't make for good tv, but no doubt it's greatly benefited her in the ring.
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FTR vs. Kommander/Vikingo was super fun. It reminded me of a peak NXT Takeover match. I'm glad they didn't go too long and just sprinted for 90% of it.
I was already in love with the Ruby/Angelo story, but now there's tension between Saraya and Menard too? That's quality sports entertainment.
Roddy popping out of his wheelchair to hit his finisher on some local jobbers is also quality sports entertainment. The Kingdom as a serious tag team never did anything for me, but Taven and Bennett are can't miss now. I kinda hope these guys aren't involved in the devil story because their act is perfect right now.
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AEW TV - 12/13 - 12/19/2023 - Winter is Coming... Quick, Look Busy!
in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
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TK should just start blatantly stealing Lucha Underground's IP. I doubt whoever owns it couldn't be bought off cheaply (by Khan standards) and HOB vs. The Reptile Tribe would be fun.