GuerrillaMonsoon Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Smart Mark Sterling gets destroyed by Wardlow and never seen again. Mysteriously, Jack Tunney Jr arrives on the scene a few weeks later. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 (edited) On the off chance someone doesn't know: Edited September 11, 2022 by DEAN Fixed that for you. UPDATE WILL FIX EVERYTHING! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 7 hours ago, mystman said: The only authority figure that ever made any sense to me was Jack Tunney. Fairly incompetent, slightly crooked, mostly impotent. Almost completely neutral. If you have a strong face GM, you have to wonder how heels get away with anything other than basic cheating during the match. Any beat downs or locker room sneak attacks would have to lead to suspensions, because why wouldn't it? If they're strong and a face, they'd have to react harshly to be legitimate. If you have an all out heel GM, you have to wonder how the faces could ever win when management is doing everything possible to screw with them. What big-time baby face could ever win a championship, or at least hold one for more than a night? A face/heel GM is a storytelling nightmare in my opinion. Keep them dumb and neutral. TUNNEY 2024! Dario's crooked but bloodthristy also worked well as a GM. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 11 hours ago, AxB said: On the off chance someone doesn't know: I only know their one us hit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 (edited) Yeah, "Our House" doesn't lead you to think they are actually a ska band For those that don't know, that is ska music AKA the stuff that Sami Zayn likes I still have a funny memory of a bitter old SHARP skinhead and Swedish hardcore purist at a show telling me ska was "circus music" Edited September 11, 2022 by Curt McGirt 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryArchieGus Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Curt McGirt said: Yeah, "Our House" doesn't lead you to think they are actually a ska band For those that don't know, that is ska music AKA the stuff that Sami Zayn likes I still have a funny memory of a bitter old SHARP skinhead and Swedish hardcore purist at a show telling me ska was "circus music" The 2 Tone era, and the aforementioned Madness, is second wave Ska. Is Zayn down with the 2 Tone crew or was he maybe more of a 90s third wave guy? I'm with Regal on 2 tone. I suspect we might also agree that the more popular Brit take doesn't hold a candle to the golden first wave. Which produced arguably the greatest band of all time - the Skatalites! Or at least the greatest (barely) 2 year run of any band. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porksweats Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Just now, HarryArchieGus said: The 2 Tone era, and the aforementioned Madness, is second wave Ska. Is Zayn down with the 2 Tone crew or was he maybe more of a 90s third wave guy? I'm with Regal on 2 tone. I suspect we might also agree that the more popular Brit take doesn't hold a candle to the golden first wave. Which produced arguably the greatest band of all time - the Skatalites! Or at least the greatest (barely) 2 year run of any band. Sami is definitely a Third Wave guy but I don't doubt him enjoying the two tones too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 My friends that were into ska were practically fourth wave, liking skacore bands like Choking Victim and Leftover Crack. A bunch of them (I think the largest lineup was 11 members!) had a band named Alleyway Sex in that vein that were really good. Shame they never recorded more than a handful of songs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Dog Fashion Disco was kind of like "metal ska" when they first started. Come on guys, I'm DESPERATELY trying to steer this conversation toward metal. Work with me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Sugar Ray was kind of a metal band before they made this classic. You’re welcome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 On 9/10/2022 at 10:30 AM, Octopus said: I find the endings building off of each other was a nice touch to the trilogy. 1. Hangman hit Buckshot Lariat for a clear ended but time runs out. 2. Hangman wins with Buckshot Lariat. 3. Hangman loses by a reversed Buckshot Lariat. Showing that Hangman may be passionate and as a character needs to go to the same well. And likely as a performer too. Against Dragon, that’ll cost you. To @Matt D’s point, with an all timer like Danielson, Omega, etc they can play off it and break the chain of combo offense. Omega excellently using his knee strike (if I recall correctly, apologies if I’m getting the specifics worng, but I can post a gif later) to stop Hangman spinning strike was exciting and plays off different than if a similar reversal happened to someone else. Watching Hangman can be like watching Soul Caliber. Very combo based and generally the same combos. But I like analogies so I’ll throw another one out. Maybe Hangman is Thrash Metal? Entirely power with and constant speed, but not quite running. Obviously the visual doesn’t match, but I interpret Page in a similar way to enjoying Slayer. Obviously, I don’t care if other people like him or not. His genre of wrestling is outside the norm of traditional wrestling theory. I think his matches have an interesting voice as an artist and I have more fun dissecting the choices in his matches. He’s in the Omega camp of matches being a part of a larger story. The first two in the trilogy was the whole story (along with great Danielson beating down the Dark Order matches) and this third one was very much in his own head of the failure of the previous trios match. His character’s self esteem issues could be annoying on a lot of you but I’m still captivated by that part of his character. It’s funny because he isn’t one of my guys and not my style of wrestling I generally enjoy. But he’s in the both Under and Over rated camp for me. Olive Garden? This isn’t to deter difference of opinion or match/character theory criticism or even praise, those are my favorite posts to read. Even if I don’t agree with them, have well expressed thoughts is riveting and a total joy. As someone who has been a very good competitive Soul Calibur player, I am a bit offended here. Calibur has more combo variety than most fighters due to walls, edges, and air control. hangman is around 1.05 Talims of likability for me. You can see HAngman's been under the learning tree of Kenny with how he structures his side of matches. It's great for epics, not as great for weekly TV. I'd argue that Kenny's stylings were much better in a leaner AEW pre-pandemic than in the current fat AEW we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 (edited) You want metal, here is my album of the day. Happy Sunday haha Edited September 11, 2022 by Curt McGirt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) My #1 Madness song: Trivia for you: House of Fun is Madness only UK number one single. Madness deserved more dammit! Edited September 12, 2022 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 12 hours ago, Dog said: Dog Fashion Disco was kind of like "metal ska" when they first started. Come on guys, I'm DESPERATELY trying to steer this conversation toward metal. Work with me. How about a metal band that features a horn section and has a song that may or may not be about a certain fireball throwing wizard (to keep it on topic) would that satisy all of the comment section? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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