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Gordi the former AEW fan

Gordi the former AEW fan

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22 hours ago, Blue Dragon said:

To clear it up, several retirement road matches booked for Muto and Muta. Then he retires in the Tokyo Dome as Muto next year.

I wonder if he'll sneak in Space Lone Wolf and Super Ninja retirement matches before the actually final Keiji Mutoh Final Bye Bye in Tokyo Dome extravaganza.

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matt925

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Dave keeps bringing up the rumored Northern California shows because he lives here and it’s been a weirdly long time, but I just don’t get any talk of the venues being discussed by anyone. First even though I thought running two shows in LA was a bad idea and I was proven wrong, I still think running three shows in the Bay Area is a bad idea and they should just run a totally different city for dynamite/rampage taping, and then have the ppv at Oakland arena and sell that out. 
 

There should be zero talk about cow palace. It’s an 82 year old building that was never remodeled. Wwe hasn’t even run a house show there since 2005. Dave keeps saying they left because of low attendance - they left because it was already a run down building back then. Cow palace shouldn’t even be in aew’s vocabulary. 
 

Dave talks about how poorly wwe did at chase center, and the numbers were crazy low, but that was when wwe was ice cold right before the pandemic and they were low everywhere. An aew ppv would do way better than those low wwe numbers, but it would be a super expensive building. 
 

Garret in particular kept pushing the sjsu event center which is also super bizarre to me. They did 5k jam packed for the historic nxt house show before the wrestlemania at Levi’s stadium. That was a house show with no stage. With even the minimal aew stage your looking at like 4K for the very first show in the #5 market. And it looks exactly like a very large high school gym. It’s awesome in person, I’ve been to three nxt house shows there, but it looks just like a high school gym. 
 

Super shocked by the lack of talk about Oakland arena, the former home of the warriors and host to multiple nba finals in recent years. Dave mentioned in passing twice that wwe hasn’t done well in Oakland. They just did a house show that only did 3k. Well they’ve been cold until recently and this is aew’s first appearance in the #5 market, comparing to a wwe house show literally means nothing. It is now the B arena in the Bay Area, all the top acts go to chase in San Francisco. So it must be relatively cheap to book. And it is an nba finals quality arena. Do the tv somewhere else and come here for a ppv at Oakland arena. I wish I could help them book these shows. 

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14 minutes ago, zendragon said:

For what its worth Ontario isn't LA all though I'd be interested in how many did attend the LA/Inglewood show and made the drive to Inland Empire

Ha right on. I’m from the bay so for me “LA” is SoCal. I make the drive for work sometimes to la or Palm Springs so I’m familiar with it all. I posted here how I thought they were tripping running two shows when they should just focus on one tent pole. They proved me wrong but things are a little different now and I also propose they just do one tent pole. Do the normal dynamite/rampage taping in San Diego or Phoenix and come on up to Oakland for the ppv. 

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27 minutes ago, just drew said:

SRS reporting that Buddy Mathews “needs to go away for a while.” He’d be another on the list of names I’d bet Triple H tampered with…

If I’m being honest Brody King is the only one of them I care about and I think he can be a huge star without the HoB.

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2 minutes ago, JLowe said:

If I’m being honest Brody King is the only one of them I care about and I think he can be a huge star without the HoB.

I agree on Brody being the breakout star but I also think that Julia Hart and her spooky pilgrim hat do add to the act, so maybe keep her.

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Just now, TheVileOne said:

Realistically, AEW should be trying to re-shuffle the deck and try clearing out some dead weight. Serpentico, Angelico, Luther, Matt Sydal, probably, a number of others.

They re-upped Brian Cage and did nothing with him.

Angelico does nothing for me, but Chaos Project is important for the YouTube shows.

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2 minutes ago, TheVileOne said:

Realistically, AEW should be trying to re-shuffle the deck and try clearing out some dead weight. Serpentico, Angelico, Luther, Matt Sydal, probably, a number of others.

They re-upped Brian Cage and did nothing with him.

You make a point and then lose it immediately by including three of their finest. Both Luther and Serpentico have been coaching in AEW and Strickland just put em both over. Angelico is a god. 

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10 minutes ago, EVA said:

Seriously, why do people always include Chaos Project on these “to be fired” lists? Who are they hurting by having fun undercard matches on Dark? Nobody. In fact, they actively help their opponents look great.

They're also doing some agent work now on the side!

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13 minutes ago, EVA said:

Seriously, why do people always include Chaos Project on these “to be fired” lists? Who are they hurting by having fun undercard matches on Dark? Nobody. In fact, they actively help their opponents look great.

Same logic can be applied to Joey Janela and Jack Evans.

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23 minutes ago, TheVileOne said:

Same logic can be applied to Joey Janela and Jack Evans.

??? Janela turned down an extension with AEW, and Jack literally did hurt himself and other people with his sloppiness and by his own admission didn’t have a good run in AEW and probably deserved to be let go before his contract was up.

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1 hour ago, TheVileOne said:

Realistically, AEW should be trying to re-shuffle the deck and try clearing out some dead weight. Serpentico, Angelico, Luther, Matt Sydal, probably, a number of others.

They re-upped Brian Cage and did nothing with him.

Bad take. The tippy top and the very bottom is not what needs to go. I'm not a giant fan of Serpentico or Luther. But they serve a purpose, take up ZERO main roster TV time, and have extremely cost effective contracts (we can assume). There's no need to clear out the contracted enhancement guys. They aren't taking TV time or pay or opportunities away from any of your favorites. Because it's not like Miro & Andrade would be working enhancement matches putting over 2.0 on Dark if Sepentico & Luther were released.

But again, this talking point comes up far too much. Especially from you. TK isn't like some idiot that accidentally signed too many guys in this awww schucks I wanna collect them all sense. He is making a conscious decision to have a lot of cards in the deck to shuffle around. The big WWE talking point used to be why do they run so many house shows? How come guys have to work so much? Can they work in an off season? All because we'd like to see performers healthier and getting less injuries. AEW has instituted a structure that is paying their athletes as much or more as WWE for significantly less work. This is exactly what we had all been clamoring for. They aren't bloated. They are structured different than you're used to. There is a difference.

I'm glad the internet wasn't a thing when I was a young kid first starting out watching. Hearing people constantly whine that Hogan doesn't wrestle enough on TV, or how you like Koko B Ware and he needs to be on TV more, or how Roddy Piper is getting wasted on by not being on TV enough and they're fucking him up would have drained allllllllll my joy.

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3 hours ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:

Bad take. The tippy top and the very bottom is not what needs to go. I'm not a giant fan of Serpentico or Luther. But they serve a purpose, take up ZERO main roster TV time, and have extremely cost effective contracts (we can assume). There's no need to clear out the contracted enhancement guys. They aren't taking TV time or pay or opportunities away from any of your favorites. Because it's not like Miro & Andrade would be working enhancement matches putting over 2.0 on Dark if Sepentico & Luther were released.

But again, this talking point comes up far too much. Especially from you. TK isn't like some idiot that accidentally signed too many guys in this awww schucks I wanna collect them all sense. He is making a conscious decision to have a lot of cards in the deck to shuffle around. The big WWE talking point used to be why do they run so many house shows? How come guys have to work so much? Can they work in an off season? All because we'd like to see performers healthier and getting less injuries. AEW has instituted a structure that is paying their athletes as much or more as WWE for significantly less work. This is exactly what we had all been clamoring for. They aren't bloated. They are structured different than you're used to. There is a difference.

I'm glad the internet wasn't a thing when I was a young kid first starting out watching. Hearing people constantly whine that Hogan doesn't wrestle enough on TV, or how you like Koko B Ware and he needs to be on TV more, or how Roddy Piper is getting wasted on by not being on TV enough and they're fucking him up would have drained allllllllll my joy.

It's not a working strategy when you see so many men and women disappearing from TV for months on end.

If it's not the bottom guys that need to go, I'm fine with letting go of Tony Nese, Josh Woods, Ryan Nemeth, Varsity Blonds, and Peter Avalon...when their contracts are up of course.

Pillman seems to be getting rather disenchanted with AEW at the moment anyway.

 

3 hours ago, EVA said:

??? Janela turned down an extension with AEW, and Jack literally did hurt himself and other people with his sloppiness and by his own admission didn’t have a good run in AEW and probably deserved to be let go before his contract was up.

Did he now?

 

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