username Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) FWIW I thought most of the "elder" actors were good except for Rhaenyra who I thought was a noticeable downgrade with none of the spark the younger actress brought to the show. On the flip side I think the new Alicent seems on first blush to be an upgrade. I think this was clearly the weakest episode of the show so far but that isn't completely unexpected due to the sheer amount of place setting and re-establishing the show had to cram in here. My biggest concern moving forward is that none of the new kids comes off as all that interesting of characters so far, hopefully the next few episodes will address that or time jump to new versions of them. Edited September 26, 2022 by username Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 7 hours ago, username said: FWIW I thought most of the "elder" actors were good except for Rhaenyra who I thought was a noticeable downgrade with none of the spark the younger actress brought to the show. On the flip side I think the new Alicent seems on first blush to be an upgrade. I think this was clearly the weakest episode of the show so far but that isn't completely unexpected due to the sheer amount of place setting and re-establishing the show had to cram in here. My biggest concern moving forward is that none of the new kids comes off as all that interesting of characters so far, hopefully the next few episodes will address that or time jump to new versions of them. I disagree that this was the weakest episode, but I 100% agree with not caring about these kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Did we already know masterbation exists in Westeros? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I see what they're doing with this show, and I do appreciate that. But, at this point, I appreciate the show more than I enjoy it. That said, next week's episode looks like it could be exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Allisent needs to pick a lane. She can't be getting Prince shithead ready to be the clamant then clutch her pearls when her ally offs her opponent's allies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 I think the actors of this show deserve more credit, because I reckon, in the page, there’s no difference between them. I doubt, if you saw their dialogue written out without attribution, that you could ever figure out who was saying what, except by contextual clues. Virtually all of the personality is coming from the acting, not the writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 On 9/29/2022 at 11:27 AM, Raziel said: Allisent needs to pick a lane. She can't be getting Prince shithead ready to be the clamant then clutch her pearls when her ally offs her opponent's allies. Don't ask a favor from the mob unless you're willing to be in debt to the mob. "I am certain you will reward me when the time is right" = she just got herself in debt to the mob. When it comes to Being An Asshole, Westeros is the big leagues, and Larys just served notice of why he's in the big leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) What a world in which we live: Edited October 2, 2022 by Matt D 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 She picked a lane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) You get a heel turn, you get a heel turn, ... you, you get a heel maintenance event push. I was ready to lose interest but man, did they up the ante. Good week for the Sword and Sorcery shows. Edited October 3, 2022 by odessasteps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 At least we still have the likable... hmm. ...I guess Daemon's kids don't seem to be jerks yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 I'd still prefer to root for the Night King. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Yeah, I'm out. After last week I thought I would give it one more episode because I nearly hated last week's episode. This episode basically convinced me that nothing good will come of this. It's bootleg Succession in the worst of ways with characters having motivations that feel like they pulled straight out of the final season of GoT. And also, while I knew the time jump was going to happen months in advance, seeing it executed made me think, "who the fuck does a time jump in season 1?!" I liked this more pre-time jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, Craig H said: Yeah, I'm out. After last week I thought I would give it one more episode because I nearly hated last week's episode. This episode basically convinced me that nothing good will come of this. It's bootleg Succession in the worst of ways with characters having motivations that feel like they pulled straight out of the final season of GoT. And also, while I knew the time jump was going to happen months in advance, seeing it executed made me think, "who the fuck does a time jump in season 1?!" I liked this more pre-time jump. The time jump is interesting. On the one hand, I get why they're doing it. It seems that the show runners want to touch on the major points that led to Rhaenyra and Alicent's split before the really let the story take off. But, that leads to characters going from "Hi, Queen! I can be an ally for you!" to "I had my whole family murdered so your dad can get his old job back!" in a couple minutes of screen time. I think the character motivations are meant to be there, it's just that we missed everything that led to them. I'm not to the point of being out in the show, but I don't think it's all that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 I'm an episode behind but, this tweet roughly summarizes my feelings so far. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 I’m glad it’s not just me and my bad eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Yeah, having like 3/4 of the episode be barely visible was definitely a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Holy shit, I thought it was just me too. From the first episode I thought that anything indoors was hard to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, odessasteps said: I’m glad it’s not just me and my bad eyes. Ok, I watched season 8 on my old 1080p TV and it felt like I had Vaseline rubbed on my contacts. I watched this on my 4K TV and it was perfectly fine. So, my conclusion is that you need to go out and spend $2K if you want to see this show clearly. I don't think any other TV show, video game, or movie has made a 1080p television seem completely and totally obsolete. I honestly feel like we are constantly getting kicked in the nuts by technology. I get where people are coming from with some of the side character's motivations, but I feel like they've don't a masterful job with the main character's motivations. I feel like everyone in the show is just looking around like, "oh, so I'm supposed to just stand here and let this asshole get away with this?" Everybody is kind of a piece of shit, but they have to be a piece of shit, because if they aren't a piece of shit the other pieces of shit will destroy them. Both Alicent and Rhaenyra are just looking at each other like, "you started fucking my dad while my mom's corpse was still burning." "Oh yeah, well you fucked your uncle." "No I didn't, he was having boner issues that miraculously disappeared." "Well you did fuck that asshat, Criston Cole" "So, where was he when or sons were stabbing and bashing each other in the head with rocks? He clearly wasn't guarding 75% of the royal family which is kind of his only job." "I'm going to make him stab your kids eyes out." "You're a crazy person." "You made me a crazy person." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, supremebve said: Ok, I watched season 8 on my old 1080p TV and it felt like I had Vaseline rubbed on my contacts. I watched this on my 4K TV and it was perfectly fine. So, my conclusion is that you need to go out and spend $2K if you want to see this show clearly. I don't think any other TV show, video game, or movie has made a 1080p television seem completely and totally obsolete. I honestly feel like we are constantly getting kicked in the nuts by technology. I get where people are coming from with some of the side character's motivations, but I feel like they've don't a masterful job with the main character's motivations. I feel like everyone in the show is just looking around like, "oh, so I'm supposed to just stand here and let this asshole get away with this?" Everybody is kind of a piece of shit, but they have to be a piece of shit, because if they aren't a piece of shit the other pieces of shit will destroy them. Both Alicent and Rhaenyra are just looking at each other like, "you started fucking my dad while my mom's corpse was still burning." "Oh yeah, well you fucked your uncle." "No I didn't, he was having boner issues that miraculously disappeared." "Well you did fuck that asshat, Criston Cole" "So, where was he when or sons were stabbing and bashing each other in the head with rocks? He clearly wasn't guarding 75% of the royal family which is kind of his only job." "I'm going to make him stab your kids eyes out." "You're a crazy person." "You made me a crazy person." Dude, I don't know. I have a 4K TV, not a 120 hz one though, and it still looks incredibly dark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, Craig H said: Dude, I don't know. I have a 4K TV, not a 120 hz one though, and it still looks incredibly dark. Same here and all of the manual gamma and warm color adjustments in the world could not compensate for the darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 I was watching on my phone at work, so I'm glad it wasn't just me. From what I read today, they changed an important aspect of the end and people wonder if it's important or they just didn't want to totally heel on the happy couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Craig H said: Dude, I don't know. I have a 4K TV, not a 120 hz one though, and it still looks incredibly dark. Hence the part about being kicked in the nuts. It's not that your TV is bad it's that they made the decision that unless your TV is some brand new state of the art shit, it won't be good enough. It would be one thing if you get to the point where you need a new TV to watch 30% of the things on television... but it's just this particular show and the other show in ths particular series. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Didn't it come out that the episode of GOT that was super dark,I think a battle episode, that HBO defended when people complained, it actually was too dark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 hours ago, odessasteps said: Didn't it come out that the episode of GOT that was super dark,I think a battle episode, that HBO defended when people complained, it actually was too dark? Too dark is relative. I'm not being facetious when I say in order to see the show, you need a new TV. The biggest difference between a nice TV, and a super high-end TV is how they handle darkness. For instance, a 4K OLED TV turns on and off every pixel in real time. That allows the dark parts of the screen to have absolutely no light from those particular pixels. On a less advanced screen, those dark parts are lit, so even though they are dark, there is light behind those pixels. So when you have a show that is as dark as HotD was last night, you have parts of the screen that should be absolutely pitch black. That way, the pixels that are dark are totally devoid of light, and the pixels that are lit show much better in contrast. On older, less advanced TVs, even the darkest hues are backlit, so when something should be absolutely pitch black, it looks inky. That inkyness is why it looks so bad. Your eyes can't differentiate between the parts that should be devoid of light, and the parts that are just dimly lit, because the parts that are supposed to be pitch black aren't actually pitch black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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