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StretchMediatedHypertrophy

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2 minutes ago, Lawful Metal said:

Neither does a butterfly suplex but whatevs

good enough for Misawa

I am inferring that's a dig at the Paradigm Shift aka Death Rider...and yeah, some of those have been overprotective of his opponent but tbh it's no longer an one-shot kill anyway.

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Matt D

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Kazarian posted that tweet about keeping his mouth shut, but I'm excited to hear Taz try to stay laser focused on either matches or the apartment complex where Super Strong Suplex Machine lives with Excalibur, because he is more or less incapable of not commenting on crap when it is in the air during the twelfth Private Party squash he's had to commentate on this year.

Edit: Nevermind, Dark was taped before Rampage this week.

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1 hour ago, Jiji said:

What is the end game with Sting and Darby? They keep winning. 

There isn't an endgame for either of them, and it's actually one of AEW's best bits long-term booking. There are no immediate plans for Darby, but having him do a lot of the heavy lifting in Sting's special attraction work is a great way to keep him warm until he's ready for another big singles program.

Overall, I have to agree that this was AEW's worst ppv since the exploding barbed wire deathmatch. Eddie and Ishii doing a dollar-store Kobashi/Sasaki ripoff was reasonably entertaining, the trios finals was good even if there missed opportunities abound, and the tag title match was great. SIOG is a great team, and even better as heels. Very weird to see people zeroing in on this match as the worst booking of the night, when it was actually the best and represents the best of AEW. This was the Acclaimed's "close but not quite" moment against 2 much higher-ranked guys where they were elevated in defeat. Circle back around with them in 6-9 months and you get your special payoff with build, the way wrestling ought to be.

The rest of the show was thoroughly mediocre with a lot of the wrong people going over and an underwhelming payoff to the MJF angle. The clown show afterwards whether kayfabe or not reads like a chapter in the future "downfall of AEW" book. I don't understand how this is supposed to draw new fans or attract top free agents.

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Just now, Dog said:

Are they taping anything before Wednesday?

Or does commentary get added very late in the process?

Anecdotally, Elevation seems like it gets commentary while the show is going on.

Studio Dark tends to get commentary after the weekend is over? You get much more hype for specific things announced on Rampage or after for Dynamite.

I think this one was actually taped before Rampage though, so you're right, we're not going to get anything fun tonight.

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27 minutes ago, Go2Sleep said:

There isn't an endgame for either of them, and it's actually one of AEW's best bits long-term booking. There are no immediate plans for Darby, but having him do a lot of the heavy lifting in Sting's special attraction work is a great way to keep him warm until he's ready for another big singles program.

Overall, I have to agree that this was AEW's worst ppv since the exploding barbed wire deathmatch. Eddie and Ishii doing a dollar-store Kobashi/Sasaki ripoff was reasonably entertaining, the trios finals was good even if there missed opportunities abound, and the tag title match was great. SIOG is a great team, and even better as heels. Very weird to see people zeroing in on this match as the worst booking of the night, when it was actually the best and represents the best of AEW. This was the Acclaimed's "close but not quite" moment against 2 much higher-ranked guys where they were elevated in defeat. Circle back around with them in 6-9 months and you get your special payoff with build, the way wrestling ought to be.

The rest of the show was thoroughly mediocre with a lot of the wrong people going over and an underwhelming payoff to the MJF angle. The clown show afterwards whether kayfabe or not reads like a chapter in the future "downfall of AEW" book. I don't understand how this is supposed to draw new fans or attract top free agents.

I think they are a good working act. IMHO there doesn't need to be an end game for the duo right now, until like it gets to the point where it's time for Sting to actually hang it up. I would hope Darby comes out of it for the better and will do OK once he is on his own again. 

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2 minutes ago, Log said:

If they fire Punk or anyone else involved in this, it’s going to look pretty hypocritical to still have Jungle Boy on the roster. 

For ... calling Christian a pussy? I'm lost.

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For real, can you imagine trying to explain this to someone who had no clue about how pro wrestling works.

“Yeah, they’re probably going fire these dudes for getting in a fight backstage after the show.” 

“Doesn’t that happen every week? Hell, didn’t a guy try to hit another guy with his car?”

”Well, yeah, but one of the guys also said some really mean shit about the other guys.”

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2 minutes ago, Matt D said:

There is such a feeling in the air that Punk is gone that any other outcome is going to feel like a huge surprise.

And I have no idea where the thought is coming from.

(Sapp's vaguetweeting shouldn't count)

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2 hours ago, TheVileOne said:

To get back to the PPV, I know everyone is concerned about Malakai Black, but I really enjoyed that six-man tag. It gave Darby Allin a big win on PPV that I think he needed, and I think Sting played his role perfectly there. Sting didn't take too many bumps and I loved that spot where he was just absorbing everyone kicks while putting on the Scorpion Deathlock.

Lastly, I loved that finish with Sting using the Black Mist on Malakai. I'm a big Malakai Black fan, not sure of what's going on with him, but I think for a match where the faces get a retaliatory win over the heels, this worked for me. Sting is someone who is familiar with getting the spit mist in the face. It was nice to see the older veteran get one over on the heels this time using their own cheating tactics against them, made better by Sting doing because Sting has done it all and seen it all.

I mean if this is it for the House of Black and Malakai, I think it was a good way for them go out. I mean I hope it's not because I think their work is great. But I also hope Malakai takes some time if he needs it. 

First thing I thought was "Sting has been getting mist in the face for 35 years" and I really wish that he had gotten Malakai with green mist as a tribute to his feud with Muta.

On the other hand, if this kills the mist gimmick dead then even better.

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Eddie Kingston should open Dynamite: "I tried to warn you guys about this schmuck! But now you guys know that this is the real straight edge! He's a backstabbing, sniveling, smirking, wolf in sheep's clothing son of a bitch! He doesn't give it a shit about any of us! This company is ours! He tried to take AEW away from us just like that racist idiot from Venice Beach did down south with TNA and WCW!"

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4 minutes ago, Matt D said:

There is such a feeling in the air that Punk is gone that any other outcome is going to feel like a huge surprise.

? I'm not jesting on you here at all so don't take the direct quote as a personal reflection, but if the MJF work hooking so many fish was sweet boy this one is going to be utterly hilarious. They've actually got everyone eating out of the palm of their hands. Incredible. 

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Sapp reporting that Punk didn’t let the Bucks and Omega into his locker room and they basically forced themselves in.

Well, the Bucks did, supposedly Omega didn’t even really care about any of this until he got bit ?

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Just now, Casey said:

Sapp reporting that Punk didn’t let the Bucks and Omega into his locker room and they basically forced themselves in.

Well, the Bucks did, supposedly Omega didn’t even really care about any of this until he got bit ?

Didn't Punk say come find him in his locker/dressing room and his door is always open? Like he literally said that during the scrum.

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