Matt D Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 It's hard to find talk about actual matches in this thread for obvious reasons but did people not like Danielson vs Jericho? I see people complaining about Jericho adjusting his tights and not being able to keep up, but that was kind of the point, right? That's why he ultimately had to hit the low blow and I thought the story that they took to get there (especially following from the Mox match) really did work. Maybe this one just played better on Monday morning than it did on Sunday night? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) Way too long and not the type of match the show needed at that point. I thought it sucked. No Garcia resolution either. Hard fucking pass. Danielson is 1 for 3 on ppvs this year, as I thought the Moxley match was much the same as last night. Edit: I will say that it is king sized of Danielson to eat a loss so Garcia can go on and be the one to beat Jericho. Edited September 5, 2022 by Jiji 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jiji said: Way too long and not the type of match the show needed at that point. That's fair, and in the grand scheme of things it matters. I saw the show as Acclaimed Match, Main Event, then Jericho vs Danielson so I obviously didn't get the same sort of placement or fatigue as the rest of you guys. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriskbrown50 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Jericho - love or hate him - and Moxley (same) are having great years - career years. Jericho should not be this good at his age. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Great Justice Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 minute ago, chriskbrown50 said: Jericho - love or hate him - and Moxley (same) are having great years - career years. Jericho should not be this good at his age. Jericho is also batting a strong percentage on elevating those associated with him. I would say it didn’t work with PnP (though their height was the parking lot brawl which is technically deep Inner Circle era), but otherwise he is very good at what he’s there to do. Not his fault Sammy fell off a damn cliff after leaving his tutelage. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madl Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said: The progression of not having thought about Ace Steel in years to the possibility he may be trying to drink Kenny Omega's blood... What a ride. If these stories are mostly true, I dunno how you keep anyone involved in the locker room and keep the peace. Unless the entire locker room unites against Punk. I can.’t imagine the evp’s losing the entire roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) I thought Jericho and Danielson had a passable PPV match that went on far too long. Should've been about 10 minutes shorter. At least we got an Arrogant Pin Cover from Jericho. And Danielson kind of did his "I have till 5, referee" thing again. Also, I do not 100% trust any of what I'm reading about Punk's blow up last night and supposed backstage fight with The Elite, especially after Sean Ross Sapp himself reported that reporters who thought about skipping the scrum were told they wouldn't want to miss it and should go. Edited September 5, 2022 by TheVileOne 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Wild that another famous wresting Ace is also probably going to lose their office job for not keeping their mouth off of employees. 3 1 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 I didn't expect the tag title match to be as amazing as it ended up being. The six man final was also top notch. I nodded off during the end of FTR&W vs Paparazzi Productions and then missed Starks vs Hobbs. The opener was a bit of a mess with the ladders but had some good stuff in between. The third six man was enjoyable due to the participants, but has Sting lost like a single match in any shape or form during this run? Shouldn't he be ranked pretty high at this point? Dragon vs Lionheart was really good! Holy shit all these Jericho matches this year! Fuck you Luchasaurus and you Christian Cage, you sneaky prick! Punk was going full Daddy Magic with his nip-action there! Jesus, it was pretty distracting at the beginning! What the hell? Match was intense. MJF! That should be something. And then, the media scrum happened. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Z Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, (BP) said: Wild that another famous wresting Ace is also probably going to lose their office job for not keeping their mouth off of employees. In all of the HOT GOSS (that is tracking to be about 10% true IMO), that is the wildest, most flagrant BS part of it. Confrontation after the scrum, believable. Getting heated enough to get to blows, semi-believable. The biting part that SRS and Rovert are trying to sell is rather ridiculous, and would have resulted in immediate and already known legal interaction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_K Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Just now, Big Z said: In all of the HOT GOSS (that is tracking to be about 10% true IMO), that is the wildest, most flagrant BS part of it. Confrontation after the scrum, believable. Getting heated enough to get to blows, semi-believable. The biting part that SRS and Rovert are trying to sell is rather ridiculous, and would have resulted in immediate and already known legal interaction. Attempted biting. Thankfully flying pigs snatched him from Ace’s baying jaws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Big Z said: In all of the HOT GOSS (that is tracking to be about 10% true IMO), that is the wildest, most flagrant BS part of it. Confrontation after the scrum, believable. Getting heated enough to get to blows, semi-believable. The biting part that SRS and Rovert are trying to sell is rather ridiculous, and would have resulted in immediate and already known legal interaction. I don’t care if it’s true or not, I’m going to freelance an article to shop around called Kenny Omega: Ace Meal? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 52 minutes ago, TheVileOne said: I will never forgive Tony Khan for gift wrapping one of their top draws on a silver platter to WWE. It was pure idiocy. I always said in no particular order, "Gotch. Hackenschmidt. Strangler Lewis. Londos. Bruno. Hogan. Austin. Rock. Brandi Rhodes." 4 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Just now, Elsalvajeloco said: I always said in no particular order, "Gotch. Hackenschmidt. Strangler Lewis. Londos. Bruno. Hogan. Austin. Rock. Brandi Rhodes." She did just star in their first reality show, which even got picked up for a second season. It was a bad, not cash money maneuver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Also, the average salary of a general manager at Target is something like $90,000 a year. That’s a hard job. Punk is a classist. 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porksweats Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 51 minutes ago, Matt D said: It's hard to find talk about actual matches in this thread for obvious reasons but did people not like Danielson vs Jericho? I see people complaining about Jericho adjusting his tights and not being able to keep up, but that was kind of the point, right? That's why he ultimately had to hit the low blow and I thought the story that they took to get there (especially following from the Mox match) really did work. Maybe this one just played better on Monday morning than it did on Sunday night? It went on too long at that point of the night, following the crowd deflating endings of the previous two matches, that being said. It was a good match but Danielson's worst since arrival. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Danielson has a history of those disappointing matches on shows that are too long. I remember a really boring Styles match at the outdoor rumble that also had a great Asuka and Lynch match. He should know to shave time off his matches in those situations. Maybe jericho would overrule him but it didn't happen with Moxley or Styles either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porksweats Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said: I always said in no particular order, "Gotch. Hackenschmidt. Strangler Lewis. Londos. Bruno. Hogan. Austin. Rock. Brandi Rhodes." You see, my wife, she has been most vocal on the subject of Brandi Rhodes. "Where's the Brandi?", "When is AEW going to get Brandi on screen?", "Why aren't AEW getting Brandi out now?", and so on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 30 minutes ago, (BP) said: Wild that another famous wresting Ace is also probably going to lose their office job for not keeping their mouth off of employees. F4WOnline implies that Omega bit Steel, unless I’m reading it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elsalvajeloco Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Casey said: F4WOnline implies that Omega bit Steel, unless I’m reading it wrong. After 25 years, Mike Tyson has been vindicated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Casey said: F4WOnline implies that Omega bit Steel, unless I’m reading it wrong. Quote More details have emerged regarding an altercation between CM Punk, Ace Steel, Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks following the explosive Punk AEW All Out post-event press conference. Punk didn't mention the Bucks or Omega by name in his pointed comments, but mentioned issues with the executive vice presidents of which the Bucks' Matt & Nick Jackson are along with Omega. According to multiple sources that lined up with some of Fightful's reporting, there was a fight backstage afterward with Punk allegedly starting things by swinging fists at the Bucks' Matt Jackson. Punk trainer/friend and AEW producer Steel (part of the storyline that got Punk into Sunday's Jon Moxley match) threw a chair that hit the Bucks' Nick Jackson in the eye. Omega was also involved with Steel (Chris Guy) grabbing his hair and biting him. As of this writing, no one involved, nor AEW, has commented publicly about the alleged incident, part of which is due to potential legal issues. It really could be either way - my reaction was it was Steel biting Omega but who knows 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 36 minutes ago, chriskbrown50 said: Jericho - love or hate him - and Moxley (same) are having great years - career years. Jericho should not be this good at his age. I didn't see the PPV but it's a shame that show outside of the main event is going to be overshadowed by the backstage drama. Hearing Jericho speak about how he enjoyed the match and not going over the match beforehand and winging it out there makes me want to see that the most. Reading about Ace Steele in that backstage altercation right after I just watched a clip from Rene Duprees podcast with Masada , Paul London and Rene talking about how much of a politician CM Punk is and how he was really a coward when it came time confront people, it seems Punk is the common denominator most likely. I can see with Punk having legit MMA training now at this point in his life he probably believes he is a legit tough guy compared to most guys today who don't even bother to have that reputation and because Punk considers himself a student of the Old school Era because he got to be around Harley and work and share a locker room with Tracy Smothers and Terry Funk and people like that. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_K Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 minute ago, RIPPA said: It really could be either way - my reaction was it was Steel biting Omega but who knows Steel is what Punk nicknamed the chair he used to concerto Bucks & Omega with in quick succession. Hence the understandable confusion. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Z Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, A_K said: Steel is what Punk nicknamed the chair he used to concerto Bucks & Omega with in quick succession. Hence the understandable confusion. That sentence sounds just as plausable as the "reported" events. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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