StuntmanCrowley Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 hours ago, L_W_P said: - I'm over Jericho as a main eventer. It's "Go Away" heat now. I couldn't agree with this more. I feel like the JAS wins all of their singles matches and if it isn't the case, it's damn close. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Khan waited for Omega's return to do the trios titles for a reason and it was a pretty obvious setup for the belts that it'd be Omega and the Bucks vs. Cole and Red Dragon (never doing the stupid spelling!) in some fashion. I hope Best Friends get the big win in time though or that I'm wrong. Dark Order are so past their expiration date and are actively bringing Hangman down. They gotta cut that shit loose. Unless Bray is signing and leading them, they're done. At this point it almost feels like a disservice to Brodie to keep them around as loveable losers with fading crowd reactions. Silver was one of the hottest acts in the company last summer and now he's approaching Just A Guy status. I just hope the Bucks are not turning face again. They are so, so much better as heels. Omega has a redemption story that can be told but we will see how they handle his return. He's best with a chip on his shoulder either face or heel. The humble old school face they had him play year 1 wasn't a very good fit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 DAMN, what a great show. Mox and Danielson show you how to use big stars to build guys who are a step or two down the ladder. Just two incredible matches. Holy shit. HOOOOOOOK! Everybody knew it was coming and it was a little dusty in here when he won his dad's belt. It was also really clear that Starks had outgrown it and is ready for the next step. PROMOS! Moxley can sell ice to Eskimos. Starks! Jungle Boy! Wow. Excalibur trying to get over EL DIABLO GUAPO as as alternate nickname for Hook was great. EEEEVIL Anna Jay handing out chokes like Oprah hands out cars. Only the chokes don't leave you with a tax bill. Dante and Sammy was clunky but maybe Dante was hurt? And certainly Sammy isn't that good. Josh Woods is okay but I don't like tights with no kneepads. And bicycle tights with no kneepads make you look like Milli Vanili. We didn't need a return of two hours of JR. There were times when he straight up just cut off/talked over the other announcers. So much of his stuff is either nonsensical, not relevant to what's happening, or just takes way too fucking long to get out. Rosa/Yamashita was allright but their Japan match was better. I didn't love the worked concussion. Kaybafe wise, when a dude just passes out in a match, that's when the match needs to be called. It looks really dumb. WE'RE GONNA PARTY ON YONGE STREET! I've been there but it was during some work travel, I was by myself, and I was freezing cold, so it was not a party. TRIOS titles! And the Bucks vignette was so good. Will Brandon bring Dustin Cutler and Malachai Jackson out of retirement to shock the Bucks? (probably not) BEST Dynamite in a while. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 34 minutes ago, Jiji said: Khan waited for Omega's return to do the trios titles for a reason and it was a pretty obvious setup for the belts that it'd be Omega and the Bucks vs. Cole and Red Dragon (never doing the stupid spelling!) Ahem. ReDRagon. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I know Jungle Boy got the crutch of pushing the cable language boundaries, but I thought his promo was really good. Definitely not out of place for a big program, and night and day from where he started. Everything else has been covered, but what a great show. The Hook win, Starks face turn, Mox/Rush, and Garcia getting a career win were all amazing pieces of television. I'd love to see a 16-team trios tourney, and I think they have just enough shows to squeeze it in before All Out. Might need a couple Dynamites with 2 matches, but it'll be great for getting some different faces on tv every week. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 hours ago, StuntmanCrowley said: I couldn't agree with this more. I feel like the JAS wins all of their singles matches and if it isn't the case, it's damn close. I feel like they sort of had to, at first, since when they started, they had little to no credibility (aside from Jericho, whose credibility was waning as well). Now, it will become a problem if it continues for much longer, since now they have more credibility than they should have, given who else is available. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriskbrown50 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 46 minutes ago, Shartnado said: I feel like they sort of had to, at first, since when they started, they had little to no credibility (aside from Jericho, whose credibility was waning as well). Now, it will become a problem if it continues for much longer, since now they have more credibility than they should have, given who else is available. The crazy thing is Hager can be a credible big hoss - Hager/Lee/Hobbs/Brody King are pure UWF throw back gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ray Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I really wanted these two to have a tag title run. We will always have this photo. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, chriskbrown50 said: The crazy thing is Hager can be a credible big hoss - Hager/Lee/Hobbs/Brody King are pure UWF throw back gold And funnily enough, I don't think Hager has actually won a singles match since JAS started! He lost to Eddie and Claudio, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuntmanCrowley Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Shartnado said: I feel like they sort of had to, at first, since when they started, they had little to no credibility (aside from Jericho, whose credibility was waning as well). Now, it will become a problem if it continues for much longer, since now they have more credibility than they should have, given who else is available. I'm probably overstating it because I feel it was a MASSIVE mistake to have Kingston lose to Jericho in the barbed wire match, and like you said, Hager has dropped falls, but I can't put my finger on it, it seems that outside of Blood and Guts, they've dominated in the W/L department. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) The inaugural AEW World Trios Champions. Edited July 28, 2022 by The Natural 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 @DreamBroken if you think that caption is funny you should watch MLW sometime with the CC on, it's fascinating how broken and bizarre it reads. Like an alien translation or something. The winner of the tourney is gonna be ReDRagon and you are gonna like it. But shit, it'll keep Cole out of singles matches and going after other belts. A serious question is are we gonna get Freebirds Rules for regular tags? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 minute ago, StuntmanCrowley said: I'm probably overstating it because I feel it was a MASSIVE mistake to have Kingston lose to Jericho in the barbed wire match, and like you said, Hager has dropped falls, but I can't put my finger on it, it seems that outside of Blood and Guts, they've dominated in the W/L department. They have been on the winning side quite a bit, absolutely. Eddie got wins over Garcia and Hager, Yuta beat Garcia, Claudio beat Hager. Mox beat Garcia, but was that after JAS begun their run? Other than that, they have won everything. Jericho has now won every singles match since losing to Eddie at Revolution, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) I wonder if Mox drops the strap to Jericho who then drops it to Eddie at Arthur Ashe. That would be a Stone Cold/Rock level pop. It's also convenient that he just happens to have problems with both Jericho and Punk. I feel rewared for watching Death Before Dishonor. Watching Rush vs Dragon Lee helped me understand how violent the match with Mox could be and how important the mess with the bulls you get the horns was that missed. Also Daniel Garcia is slowly taking the moves that he's learned from fighting Mox and Yuta and that helped him win against American Dragon. Edited July 28, 2022 by Shadow 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 4 hours ago, StuntmanCrowley said: I couldn't agree with this more. I feel like the JAS wins all of their singles matches and if it isn't the case, it's damn close. Jericho since JAS: 3-0 in singles on TV/PPV Garcia since JAS: 1-3 in singles on TV/PPV Hager since JAS: 0-2 in singles on TV/PPV No TV singles matches for Cool Hand Ang or Daddy Magic since JAS Sammy since joining JAS: 1-0 in singles on TV/PPV Just wanted to see the numbers for myself. Prior to last night Garcia was definitely a guy who dependably dropped falls in most TV singles matches, but like Yuta it seems that's about to change in a hurry. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Schneider Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 This is Garcia's first singles win in AEW outside of Dark and Elevation. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Phil Schneider said: This is Garcia's first singles win in AEW outside of Dark and Elevation. He sure made it count, then! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuntmanCrowley Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said: Jericho since JAS: 3-0 in singles on TV/PPV Garcia since JAS: 1-3 in singles on TV/PPV Hager since JAS: 0-2 in singles on TV/PPV No TV singles matches for Cool Hand Ang or Daddy Magic since JAS Sammy since joining JAS: 1-0 in singles on TV/PPV Just wanted to see the numbers for myself. Prior to last night Garcia was definitely a guy who dependably dropped falls in most TV singles matches, but like Yuta it seems that's about to change in a hurry. Thank you for looking into this. I guess this cements that my issue with with Jericho, not the JAS itself. I also want to make sure that I state that I'm beyond psyched at Garcia beating Danielson and what a goddamn match that was. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Technico Support said: I didn't love the worked concussion. Kaybafe wise, when a dude just passes out in a match, that's when the match needs to be called. It looks really dumb. I feel this way too. It served the match in that it slowed down Danielson's freakish speed but they could have done that without it. The Rush match made me convinced that the title could have changed hands right there and then. That seems a little more powerful than Garcia getting the win, even if he's only had Dark and Elevation wins prior. EDIT: Then again I don't know. It's more important for Garcia to be made than Rush because Rush was gonna get over anyway. Edited July 28, 2022 by Curt McGirt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Yeah JR was definitely past nap time as the show went on. At one point didn't he start rambling about Dunkin Donuts or something? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eikerir Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I’m catching up and halfway through the show now but HOLY SHIT that turn from Hobbs on Stark caught me of guard. First time I think in over a decade I remember gasping and covering my mouth in shock at a turn, good job everyone involved for getting me so invested. Ricky looked like a start tonight I hope this is the beginning of him moving up even more. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletti Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Give me trios championship matches under lucha rules, goddamnit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 20 minutes ago, christopher.annino said: Give me trios championship matches under lucha rules, goddamnit. I get the impression this is what they're going to do, since they're actually called "trios" titles and not "six man" titles. I definitely don't want the "pin the captain or both his teammates" rules but I'd love the "no need to tag" aspect. Just make the trios division have insane spotfests and have Rick Knox referee every single match. Over/under on JR walking off = maybe three weeks. Speaking of, we got Daniel Garcia vs Daniel Bryan Danielson and JR played it totally safe. I don't think he tried to say either man's name once. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 THURSDAY REFLECTIONS: Rush is so fucking awesome. Rush/Andrade/Dragon Lee have GOT to feud with the Blackpool Combat Club. They match up so well in ways that would make good matches. Andrade vs Claudio, Rush kills Wheeler Yuta, Dragon Lee gets slaughtered by Bryan Danielson, Dragon Lee has a Pure Rules match with Yuta, Andrade and Mox kill each other like Rush and Mox did in this. Rush is so intense. He is a more intense version of Mox. I love how he revels in the blood of Jon Moxley. Jesus, the first chop (or palm strike to the sternum, according to Lord Regal) by Rush after you idiots have to watch picture in picture is the most intense part of the match. MAN. That was fucking beautiful. They need to have a rematch but Rush needs to also bleed. I love when they transition from beating each other straight to fuck to doing elaborate Lucha Libre complex sequences. I love that when Penta and Rey Fenix run in to chase off Andrade, Rey is sensibly shirtless. Penta is wearing a black leather jacket in July in Worcester, Massachusetts. Maybe it's to fight off the black flies. The finish is anti-climatic because you want them to beat the fuck out each other for two more hours. I had forgotten that Danhausen was 6'7" and over 300 pounds. Man, old ROH was a while ago. I was surprised that Starks/Danhausen was more wrestling than fucking around. There was more wrestling in this than in the Guevara/Martin match. There was more fucking around in the Martin/Guevara match (which I liked a lot) than a match involving frickin' Danhausen. SO I guess Ricky Starks goes after Wardlow? That would be good. Actually, I assume Powerhouse Hobbs goes after Wardlow, which would be better. Ricky Starks carries Hook obviously but Hook held his own. I hope they continue to make the FTW belt the new version of the NWA TV title and they defend it every week on TV. Sammy Guevara and Tay Conti are great pieces to have if you are booking AEW. They are TOTAL HEAT MACHINES and you can take neglected commodities like Ruby Soho and suddenly they are in a white hot feud, because you want Ruby to beat the fudge out of Tay Conti because Tay is so hateful. Hell, you can take Skye Blue, who is a Dark Wrestler Who Was Born To Be Pinned and SUDDENLY she is relevant if you stick her in the JAS/Kingston booking vortex and she can get pinned by Tay in a tag match with Ruby/Blue vs Tay Jay Noir! But there is actual HEAT! I like that AEW is booking the women involved into a future street fight. I love that Dante Martin and Sammy Guevara have a state of the art highfliers match to advance an angle about their girlfriends. It's like a double date with the dudes talking about football and the girls figuring out ways to beat the crap out of each other. So yeah, this match is great because I REALLY want to see Tay Conti and Ruby Soho in a street fight. Actually, I want to see Soho and Skye Blue versus Tay Jay in a street fight because the last Tay Jay street fight was great and it wasn't set up nearly as well as this. Plus Soho will join Britt Baker and the Bunny and get the AEW Woman With Blood On Her Face t-shirt, which is totally fucking awesome. Is she hardcore? We'll find out. Martin does hit a really good Psicosis bump to the ringpost. It was about a .06 on the Jerry Estrada/Psicosis scale. I notice that pretty much every thing else in this match happens above the ropes, even the stuff in the middle of the ring. These guys are athletic freaks. Tay Conti is so fucking awesome heeling it up to set up Anna Jay to jump her from behind. This is so Memphis. I love that they tied Ruby Soho to the Eddie Kingston juggernaut and tied Anna Jay and Tay Conti to the JAS juggernaut. It makes me wonder when they pull the trigger on Julia Hart since she was the first to align with an over men's stable. Well, actually, I guess Kris Statlander was sort of the first, but she didn't get any traction until she distanced herself from the Best Friends. So you have duel booking theories in regards to the two better (only) women's angles in AEW, you have the Soho/Blue/Tay/Jay angle which is tied to your main angle in the promotion and then you have the Jade Cargill/Baddies/Athena/Kris Statlander/Willow Nightingale which is based on two stables of all ladies. The Soho angle is more fun because it is based on hate and violence. The Cargill/Athena angle is based on the TBS belt, which is good but not as good as hate and violence. I love that Jungle Boy is battling Christian Cage by trying to out-douche him. It's Jerry Springer booking and back it one hundred percent. Christian Cage is so fucking great. Smart Mark Sterling need to become the Jimmy Hart of ROH. Get him to manage Nese and Josh Woods and also manage the Hex or even better, Pretty Empowered, DO IT! FUCK BILLY CORGAN AND AND THE NWA! Sorry, thought I was writing for Segunda Caida for a second there. You could definitely go completely Memphis, like TK obviously wants to do, by building around Sterling and Prince Nana. Sterling is your Jimmy Hart and Nana is your Skandor Akbar. I noticed that folks were making gifs about Nese kicking Strickland in the head when he OBVIOUSLY misses his head by six inches. The INTERNATIONAL FEED is lagging to an annoying degree to the point that I can fantasy book so I'll finish this later. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 hours ago, John from Cincinnati said: Jericho since JAS: 3-0 in singles on TV/PPV Garcia since JAS: 1-3 in singles on TV/PPV Hager since JAS: 0-2 in singles on TV/PPV No TV singles matches for Cool Hand Ang or Daddy Magic since JAS Sammy since joining JAS: 1-0 in singles on TV/PPV Just wanted to see the numbers for myself. Prior to last night Garcia was definitely a guy who dependably dropped falls in most TV singles matches, but like Yuta it seems that's about to change in a hurry. Were any of Jericho's wins clean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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