Gorman Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 3 hours ago, DEAN said: I have NEVER seen a cake survive an episode of wrestling Researching for my WCW book ... the birthday cake survived at Hog Wild! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 That may have been the best cake deal in all of wrestling, unless someone has a specific Cornette memory. The dude I've never heard of against Ricky was one stiff bastard, by the way. This show was STIFF. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzkrieg Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 I wonder if the main event could have benefited from being basically a barbwire version of the Mimosa Mayhem Match. Have pins and submissions but also have being thrown in the spiderweb as a potential finish. This way Kingston still doesn't pin or submit Jericho but you have the spiderweb spot and probably a better crowd reaction. From a storytelling perspective you established Kingston doesn't care about getting the decision(Blood and Guts) and also just wanted to make Jericho bleed(Barbwire Everywhere), so I'm not sure what Kingston's motivation for future matches is? Really outside of a Loser Leaves Town match seems about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Holy shit. I love it when wrestling gives me that feeling of "this is the damnedest thing I've ever seen." Brody vs Darby was one of the damnedest things I've ever seen. Legit, Brody straight up being a "D&D Murder Hobo" is starting to be one of my favorite things in wrestling. He wrestles like I play D&D. "Ok, can I pick up this horse and then use it as a weapon?" Not going to lie, I think I spent most of that match fearing for Darby's life, but I also enjoyed the hell out of it. And while I get JFC's concern for Darby, I do enjoy Darby's story arcs of getting his ass beat, getting closer to a win and fucking up and losing, and then finally getting a win. If Darby is AEW's Sting, then Brody is his Vader. BEST FRIENDS IN A TAG MATCH! FUCK YEAH! That tag match rocked too. Loved Chucky finally being like, ok, fuck Wheeler. This petition from Sterling is some dumb as fuck WWE shit. My thought on this is the same as Alvarez's in that it's stupid as hell. He has a petition to kick Swerve out for eliminating people in a battle royal? FTR's promo was the shit. Jiji shitting on it is some buffoonery that I cannot sanction. FTR are the best babyfaces in all of wrestling. Fuck you if you disagree. Main event was good and brutal until the rushed finish. People need to chill the fuck out whenever Kingston loses. Eddie is one of a handful of guys that are bulletproof in wrestling. Not to mention he went over Jericho clean as a sheet and his team won B&G. I want Eddie to win a world title at some point too, but if he beats Jericho last night, it's not like he's going to be instantly in the picture for the world title. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryArchieGus Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, blitzkrieg said: I wonder if the main event could have benefited from being basically a barbwire version of the Mimosa Mayhem Match. Have pins and submissions but also have being thrown in the spiderweb as a potential finish. This way Kingston still doesn't pin or submit Jericho but you have the spiderweb spot and probably a better crowd reaction. I think the match benefitted from having a pinfall and potential for a submission. Matches ending with somebody landing in something always feels like a booking-out for somebody taking a loss. It also plays like WWE logic as booked by TNA. Further, what's the worry about Kingston eating a pin following a 2 on 1 attack? Does it expose him as a bad strategist for not having more friends involved? As you pointed out the idea here was Kingston didn't care about the pin/win, he cared about injuring Jericho. 'Lionheart' was apparently stretchered after the show ended. I wonder if this were seen (which it likely will be in the days to come) if there would be as much resistance to the finish? Tho, seemed pretty clear by show's close, at least to my eyes, that Jericho won the battle but Kingston won the war. Now we logically move to Bryan Danielson returning to face Jericho and Kingston hunting down Guevera. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarheel Moneghetti Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 16 hours ago, AxB said: The thing about Shark Cages is, they are built to keep Sharks OUT, not to keep people IN. In fact, being able to squeeze through the bars in a hurry might be pretty useful, if there's like a shark chasing you or something. If a normal-size human or a big guy like Jake Hager can get out by squeezing (or not; it looked like you could step normally between the bars), then there are quite a few sizes and species of sharks that can get in. Most sharks are smaller than Jaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 Athena IS RVD! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 OH FUCK YEAH! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said: That may have been the best cake deal in all of wrestling, unless someone has a specific Cornette memory. The dude I've never heard of against Ricky was one stiff bastard, by the way. This show was STIFF. Cole Karter comes from IWC in Pittsburgh, Same company that turned out Elias, Brit Baker, and Wardlow to name a few. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Jiji said: Dax is so cringe to me. My friend was watching live and I was about 30 minutes behind. He said you'll never guess what Dax talked about. "His wife and daughter, being the best team ever, and love of this business?" "Pretty much." So corny. Hard pass. I get that it's obviously working but it's not for me. I'm really down on them with the over the top praise they get. It sounds like he just found out his daughter is in the clear from a serious heart condition, so I'll give him a fucking pass for being "corny". 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 19 minutes ago, Log said: It sounds like he just found out his daughter is in the clear from a serious heart condition, so I'll give him a fucking pass for being "corny". lol, he's been using his wife and daughter for about a year now. I also wouldn't use my child's health to get babyface pops but that's just me. Then again, I'm a bitch, I'm the bitch, I'm a bitch. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stefanie Without Stefanie Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Re: FTR's corniness, I've seen far too many people in Mid-Atlantic indies play the JCP Greatest Hits to ever really consider them to be anything other than a good cover band. Now they're playing the humble "aw, shucks" tough babyfaces in the vein of Magnum T.A. in Mid-South, and I half expect one of them to start throwing a belly-to-belly suplex. I hope they come up with their own material some day. Maybe they'd be good at that. With that said, if what Dax said about his daughter is true, I'm sorry his family has gone through that and I'm glad she's healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eikerir Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 FTR has always had the slightly cringey uncool dad who thinks he’s cool vibe going on anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFistsJustFlips Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 13 hours ago, L_W_P said: Kingston is 40 and feels like he's got one real shot at being elevated into main event status and winning the title. Hes 1998 Mick Foley to me. He gets 12-18 months at the top, MAX, and time is running out. Darby is 29. Hes got plenty of time and will have plenty of great/bad booking over the next... however many years his body has left. Here's the mistake in the math, this isn't 1998. It's 1988. The title is resigned to the tippy tippy top of the top in AEW. I know a lot of people would like to see a World Title run for Kingston. And a lot of people fantasy book it and expect it. But it isn't going to happen. There was no Foley late 80s run for anyone. It was Hogan & Savage & Warrior. With a mini Andre thing in there. Punk, Jericho, Mox, Hangman, Omega. I don't see it being in the cards for Kingston. That's not me saying I'm opposed to it. If we get it I'll enjoy it and it will probably be a great moment. But I just don't see the timing lining up for it to be remotely possible. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 If they are looking for maximum heat for somebody like MJF, it's cheating his ass off to beat Kingston and end his one shot at the top. I can see it now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 This is so cringe. We need MJF back talking about banging rats and calling Tony Khan a fucking mark. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 8 hours ago, Rev Ray said: If they are going to multiple babyfaces vs tayjay, who do they put with ruby who's not already tied in an angle? Skye Blue? I like Skye Blue because I would like to see her elevated more. My wild idea, if she's recovered from her injury, is Bunny. Ruby, rather than looking for help from a face, decides that what she needs is someone crazy, vicious, and hates TayJay. Hell, play up the mercenary aspect for added explanation. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Ruby should bring in Fukigen Death, since she has ties to Oedo Tai and is kind of technically a founder of that group (or at the very least an original member). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porksweats Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, JLowe said: I like Skye Blue because I would like to see her elevated more. My wild idea, if she's recovered from her injury, is Bunny. Ruby, rather than looking for help from a face, decides that what she needs is someone crazy, vicious, and hates TayJay. Hell, play up the mercenary aspect for added explanation. That is an incredible idea. Especially when you pair it with Butcher/Blade's beatdown of Jay's Dark Order cohorts Reynolds & Silver 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Gorman said: Researching for my WCW book ... the birthday cake survived at Hog Wild! Hog Wild is not canon WCW in my world. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Today while doing fieldwork we had to cross a very high barbed wire fence to go back and forth to the truck (for cold water); either climb up about 4 feet and over, or belly crawl under. Obviously, I was thinking about yesterday when I was slithering under and started getting my safety vest hooked. Then later one of my co-workers joked they were just going to run really hard and try to bust through, which was when I told them that I had watched a barbed wire wrestling match the night before. There are also electric fences there, so almost like an exploding ropes match. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 9 hours ago, Jiji said: Empty arena brawl? Only if Eddie cuts a promo where he says "THE EYE JERICHO!!! THE EYE!!!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordi the former AEW fan Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Really? Dax cuts a heart-felt promo about his daughter surviving a life-threatening heart condition, and they release a t-shirt with 100 % of royalties going to the American Heart Association, and that's "corny" and "cringe"? Fucks sake. Think it's time for me to take a short break before I start saying stuff I regret.. I'll be back on the 31st for the start of Secret Santo 17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Echoing the love for Brody/Darby. Darby's bumping makes anyone look like a killer a la 90s Mick Foley, but Brody has been filling the role of actual killer quite nicely lately. That Ganso from Asbury Park finisher Brody uses is so sick when guys aren't afraid to cut it close which Darby obviously isn't. I'm ready for face Miro and I wouldn't mind if a team with Darby lasted beyond the feud with HOB. The main was fine, but they went too heavy on the smoke and mirrors when Jericho and Eddie were holding their own with the violence. The finish was rushed as per usual which led to the barbed wire Judas Effect getting virtually no-sold, but I think Eddie's uraken to Sammy missing by a mile was even worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 JOHN TENTA APPERCIATION WEEK!!! They put cool hand ange in the shark cage! He's not a shark he's a man! Jericho remembers the old saying "what the hell! use the bell!" both these guys are trying to be middle aged and crazy terry funk! And I think you guys have the finish all wrong. Sure Jericho got the pinfall, he won the battle, but Kingston won the war. It wasn't about wins and losses with him it was about hurting Jericho making him bleed. And He got that, he threw him into the barbwire spiderweb to end the show for Lemmy's sake! Dax pulling a Dusty Rhodes promo in Atlanta! Opener was real fun but the rest of the show didn't do a lot for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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