Phil Schneider Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 I know there are some Gresham fans on this board, but they really should get the title off of him. Trying to get a TV contract when your champion is 5'4 has got to be tricky. Listening to Tony Khan it sounds like the original idea for Claudio was for him to be a surprise debut at the PPV and be a big part of ROH. Set up Gresham vs. Claudio, have Claudio win and that solves some problems ''' 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 And if they are going to roll with Gresham they need to put him on TV (or at least Youtube) more than they have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Since Claudio is in BCC he's probably not going to a secondary show though. Christian would be a good choice but he just turned. Matt Hardy is broke down. Who else they got that's ex-WWE and expendable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: Since Claudio is in BCC he's probably not going to a secondary show though. Christian would be a good choice but he just turned. Matt Hardy is broke down. Who else they got that's ex-WWE and expendable? Not so fast. Yuta's the ROH Pure Champion and being primed for a PPV match with Garcia for the belt. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L_W_P Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 44 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: Since Claudio is in BCC he's probably not going to a secondary show though. Christian would be a good choice but he just turned. Matt Hardy is broke down. Who else they got that's ex-WWE and expendable? Keith Lee? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Schneider Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 I think you could have the BCC on both shows pretty easily. Danielson and Moxley are the two main guys anyway, and you could do something where they want to hold all the titles 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryArchieGus Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Beat me to it. Gresham had a video package on Rampage with words concerning who the best technical wrestler is. The visual was clips of both Danielson and Claudio. I'm assuming they're having a match, and I don't see Claudio dropping the fall. I do hope if this is the PPV bout that TK breaks his World Title goes last rule, and gives Joe-Lethal or an FTR match the nod. Especially if by some lucky chance that FTR match is FTR-Briscoes II. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarheel Moneghetti Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 I like Gresham well enough, but his size and look scream “tax preparer is really into CrossFit” to me. 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krone Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 This fucking guy is an absolute stallion. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valcourt Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Came to see if that promo was shared yet. So good. Guys proved they don’t need to be just jokes. They can do blood feuds too. Amazing. So glad to see them on the big stage after their chikara run. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirFozzie Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 The full preview. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peck Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 No shit, that Menard promo was one of the best I've ever heard. The content, the visuals, the genuine emotion.. can't remember the last promo that had all 3. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Yeah I didn't think of the "Why not both?" option haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Holy shit that promo. I need to start remembering these two's names. Are they both Canadian, because dude sounded VERY Canadian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Holy shit that promo. I need to start remembering these two's names. Are they both Canadian, because dude sounded VERY Canadian. Yeah, they're both Quebequois, I read they came either from the same school or same home indie as Uno 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Meltzer should go back and give the match the extra .25 star points needed for that promo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L_W_P Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 It's a tiny little thing. A 3 minute video. But it builds, so so so much into who this guy is and why he's doing the things he's doing. Imagine in 12 month's time, the JAS are fighting with say Andrade, RUSH etc and they end up in another Blood & Guts match. And Matt Menard says "No". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Man, Gresham is such a black hole of a charisma. I really don't even know how you fix it. Fucking Dean Malenko was one of my favorite wrestlers and maybe my favorite wrestler when he was killing it as a Cruiserweight and US champion in WCW. He never said a word. He did have this sort of physical charisma though that just made him so compelling to watch. I have tried thinking of Gresham in that way and he just doesn't have it. He's a great technician, but he has a total inability to be remotely compelling. Him talking only makes it worse. Someone compared him to a dude that does your taxes. More than anything he just reminds me of the plethora of UFC guys that are horribly, horribly bland and that would get owned at pre fight press conferences. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L_W_P Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Man, Gresham is such a black hole of a charisma. I really don't even know how you fix it. Fucking Dean Malenko was one of my favorite wrestlers and maybe my favorite wrestler when he was killing it as a Cruiserweight and US champion in WCW. He never said a word. He did have this sort of physical charisma though that just made him so compelling to watch. I have tried thinking of Gresham in that way and he just doesn't have it. He's a great technician, but he has a total inability to be remotely compelling. Him talking only makes it worse. Someone compared him to a dude that does your taxes. More than anything he just reminds me of the plethora of UFC guys that are horribly, horribly bland and that would get owned at pre fight press conferences. What little I've seen of him in the ring I like. I think he would benefit greatly from adopting a 'silent killer' type attitude, getting a manager etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 I'm actually really impressed with how Gresham carries himself on the mic. He has an air of earned confidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 NSFW 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 Mox has great taste. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 13 hours ago, Krone Meltzer said: This fucking guy is an absolute stallion. You see, these are the kinds of guys Jericho needs around him. Do you doubt for a second that this guy wouldn't jump on a grenade if it meant saving Jericho? He sure as hell puts the Appreciation in Jericho Appreciation Society! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 I want to say that I need to see Kingston/K. Lee. Just wanted to put that out there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryArchieGus Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 10 hours ago, Dog said: I'm actually really impressed with how Gresham carries himself on the mic. He has an air of earned confidence. Absolutely. I hadn't heard him speak a whole lot before this current run, but from what I did hear he's come some ways in the last while. Weak to bury the guy for falling into the World Title position. Nobody's gonna argue he's the Main Event guy or promotion leader going into the future. That said, he will certainly find his place on the card, likely somewhere in the hunt for the Pure Title, and be a nice contributor for the new ROH. Also, I get the impression he'd be a solid hand backstage for the development of new talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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