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6/8/2022!- AEW DYNAMITE!


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3 minutes ago, Matt D said:

Why didn't they call this thing the International belt?

Wrestlers on the AEW roster I'd actually watch a match with Osprey against:

  • CM Punk
  • Samoa Joe
  • Powerhouse Hobbs
  • Satnam Singh
  • Serpentico
  • Danhausen
  • Hook
  • Anthony Bowens
  • Eddie Kingston
  • Dustin Rhodes
  • Christian Cage
  • Paul Wight

That's it. I'm sure a Drake or Bear Country match would just annoy me. Orange Cassidy almost made the cut but I'm sure he'd bring out Cassidy's worse tendencies instead of his best ones.

The Moxley match was about all I needed to see of Ospreay.  The fact that he is the conduit for Aussie Open to wrestle FTR is all that REALLY matters.

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I want an 8-man hair vs hair tournament next, with the loser of each match forced to undergo the ultimate humbling of having their head shaved.

Maybe: Dax, Scorp, Lethal, Alan 5 Angels, Luther, Silver, Blade, and Cutler? 

Also, Ospreay vs Archer from the 2019 New Japan Cup remains one of the very best matches I have ever seen live. He bumped like Darby in that one.

Jacked up Ospreay still freaks me out a little. I keep forgetting he hit the weights during plague times.

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7 minutes ago, Gordlow said:

I want an 8-man hair vs hair tournament next, with the loser of each match forced to undergo the ultimate humbling of having their head shaved.

Maybe: Dax, Scorp, Lethal, Alan 5 Angels, Luther, Silver, Blade, and Cutler? 

Reverse hair vs hair tournament where the losers have to grow their hair out, revealing their embarrassing hairlines

E: It's called the Christopher Daniels Cup,  of course.

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1 hour ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:

To have someeee positivity here I thought David Finlay looked great and his match with Hangman was good. O'Riley was a bad choice to face Moxley but the match was hard hitting and dope. Wardlow is going to squash Scorpio Sky eventually, that'll make the TNT Title seem important again. But is that now the TV Title (third in line) and the All-Atlantic would be The US Title (second in line)? Pac v Murphy was solid too, but they did not kick it into that extra special gear.

AEW is making some choices that are not my cup of tea here lately. I'm still very pro-AEW. But TK needs to start getting some input on these weird ideas. No one is going to have 100% good instincts. And some of his worst ones are starting to show through.

Agree with your entire post but I want to really put some shine on the Finlay/Page match. That was fantastic and a perfect match for those two. Finlay looked really crisp, hitting a beautiful dropkick early on. The lockup at the very start was beautiful and aggressive. I really enjoyed Pac/Omega Murphy but I'll take the hard hitting intensity of Page/Finlay over that. Murphy and Pac showed some restraint and didn't go into overkill mode despite those two being so great at it. Instead, the jaw dropping poison rana set up the finish as it should have. Really enjoyed both of these matches and they're perfectly worked for TV. No overkill, could run 100 matches like that without having to push the envelope.

The casino battle royal has got to fucking go. Brutal match with way too many talented guys in it to be that bad. Plus, Kevin Dunne invaded the production truck and they were cutting camera shots every 2 seconds.  I am probably the biggest KOR proponent on here (we went to high school together, though I have very little memory of it lol!) and is a friend of a friend, not to mention he's beyond great and works a style I love. Still, ain't nobody in the world thought he was beating Mox. So the booking decision sucked despite giving KOR some shine and the main event being probably a top 3 singles match of Moxley's career imo (I'd go Yuta II and either Ishii or Darby for the others). Stupendous match. Appreciated the hell out of the Regal/KOR interaction and the switch to serious O'Reilly mode. For somebody in the midcard, not quite established in the big leagues as a major player, the goofy (yet funny) act wasn't going to cut it if he has aspirations of being a major player. Hopefully this is the beginning of a more serious O'Reilly in AEW.

And agree that Khan is probably in his flop era to this point. Some questionable choices piling up.

Looking forward to Pac being a champ but interested in seeing how they handle Miro losing after coming back. Pac vs. Black for the belt will rule.

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Possibly the first Dynamite I couldn't wait to finish. Not enjoyable at all.

Battle Royale being scrubbed of anyone of remotely any importance was bad. KOR gets to be Ronnie Garvin. Should have just done a 4 way with the top contenders - I'm sure Jay Lethal taking the loss hurts nobody in particular. 

Someone made the point that the Owen tournament has killed the momentum of this show because everything lacks context and sits in this tiny vacuum. The NJPW stuff continues that, as does yet another tournament, and a battle royale/convoluted path to an interim champion. 

I have never seen anyone kill a crowd so easily quite like Shafir. No-one reacts to her at all. Admittedly that crowd was dead all night.

Interested to see where the Jungle Boy/Christian stuff goes. I hope the Kingston/Jericho stuff can get back on track.  

 

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This was a weirdly flat Dynamite to me. I think you should be allowed to leave the ring only once during a Battle Royale, mixes it up a little bit. I don't understand why it's All-Atlantic but if this is a belt that's only competed for by international wrestlers, that's a nice little niche and way to bring in rotating promotions. Pac/Buddy was a good match, but Will Ospreay brought the whole vibe of the show down for me, is he talented? I mean yeah, do I think he's good? no, please keep him away. Aussie Open barely makes up for Ospreay being here but I know I'm in a minority about this. Page/Finlay was a match? I haven't seen much of the young Finlay but I wasn't overly wowed. Smart call for Page to go for the IWGP title, don't know why I didn't think of that possibility when they didn't announce him for the interim shot last week post-Rampage. Another Sharif on Dynamite match, another match that tells me to keep her on Dark, it isn't that she's untalented, I like her matches on Dark but it's like if its on network television, she freezes. Wardlow vs 20 Guys is going to be awesome, that's the kind of thing I like to see. I'm good with O'Reilly winning the Royale and facing Mox, the main event really brought the heat that the show was lacking and it definitely is in part of having Regal on commentary. Fun Fact: This was a first time match-up.

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From what I saw:

I really liked Marina Shafir versus Thunder Rosa. When did Shafir start repping Moldova? Anyways, the match felt awkward in a really interesting way. Marina doesn't wrestle like your traditional pro wrestler. That makes her look really interesting in a clash-of-styles way and hard to overcome. Thunder Rosa was great at being fiery but also adjusting to Marina's style by not trying to make her run the ropes or anything like that. This felt very much like: "Here's what Marina Shafir does well, let me work around that as opposed to making her work with what I do well" from TR or whoever put the match together.

I really loved the final match. I like KOR well-enough. This was exactly what the match needed to be: Two professional wrestlers tagging the f out of each other, with KOR getting a few moments where I thought they might actually give him a shock win, until Moxley won decisively. Mox winning in a decisive fashion like that does a really good job at showing hierarchy. KOR is really good and won the battle royale and ReDragon is near the top of the tag heap... but Mox is a king. 

Also, this also puts over Yuta Wheeler in a way. Yuta took it much more to Mox than KOR did. And KOR put up a good fight until the end. 

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1 hour ago, Dog said:

Has Will Ospreay degenerated that much since 5 or so years ago? Because I thought he was pretty fucking good (or at least fun to watch) then.

If he didn't look in top condition it's because he had a serious kidney infection a week or so ago (and I think he had COVID but might be wrong on that). 

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BTW this is a random as hell takeaway but watching the Nyla Rose pride month commercial thing... I would blast WWE if they ran a pride month deal featuring someone then didn't bother to put them in a single televised match at all during said month. Don't fuck this up AEW.

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Aside from Tony's throwaway line about having plenty of belt designs that hadn't been revealed yet, is this the first time they made any mention about the AEW Southern States Mid-Atlantic Texarkana title or whatever it is? WWE had the European Title for a while and it had nothing to do with wrestlers actually from Europe so I don't really care about the nationalities of the participants, but they seemingly dropped this out of nowhere. Sure they have a big roster of people not doing much of anything, but seemingly inventing a new title out of nowhere just to give eight guys something to do is a bit out of left field. Tony Kahn seems bound and determined to go full Herb Abrams.

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I guess I just assumed that the battle royale would have maybe 8-10 of the top guys, people who had a realistic shot?  I was imagining a six-way worked as a battle royale.  I kinda figured Darby, Kingston, Jericho, maybe Hangman, etc.  Definitely wasn’t expecting Swerve, the Gunns, Bobby Fish.  I don’t mind KOR winning, but it also feels like the end of the match may be clipped for the Death of AEW doc 20 years from now.  And, In a vacuum, they’re making good decisions about which WWE castoffs to sign snd using them well, but the net effect feels like way too much WWE.  In 2022, I’m a lot more likely to tune in for a Page or Darby push than I am for Punk or Danielson.

 

 

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I thought the battle royal was a lot of fun. Didn't think it was a 'casino' battle until the show started. Nice mixture of talents in there even with obvious omissions, wanted to see more Archer & Takeshita but the stuff they did was fun. Thought this was a GREAT come back showing for Yuta, who was getting a pretty hot reaction in there and looked like a legit viable winner. Loved the unpredictability of it all as once it got down to the final 4, I could've seen any of the 4 winning it. A potential epic surprise comeback win for Andrade, Yuta getting a main event rematch with Moxley, etc. Didn't mind Kyle winning as he's been on fire in the ring and feels like he was on an upwards trajectory coming off the Darby win so this was a nice step up for him. I did laugh at the thought of people fearing Cole winning this, so they went with the next closest thing. Actual main event delivered the goods as would be expected. 

the All Atlantic title certainly came out of nowhere but I don't mind it. Nice pop for Ospreay showing up, when I think of Ospreay I still think of his great 2019 G1 stuff so I'd be intrigued by potential possibilities for him in AEW. Still want this to somehow turn in to FTR winning the IWGP tags at some point. 

Hangman/Finlay ruled. When I first heard of Hangman/Okada being a rumor, I wasn't sure about the idea of Hangman dropping back to back big time title matches but matches like this in between provide a much needed balance to offset that worry, so bring on Hangman/Okada. 

Wardlow coming for the TNT makes sense. Glad to see Smart Mark still killing it. Enjoyed Thunder/Shafir, always dig Marina getting more opportunity/chance. Liked the Toni Storm involvement as well. 

Much to look forward to, Rampage with the in ring AEW debuts of both Ospreay and Satnam Singh! Plus Road Rager next week, they keep going with Jungle Boy being confused by Christian's decision making but the ladder match should be suitably insane, surprised they didn't go tLc. Looking forward to it and I hope Jungle/Luchasaurus somehow retain again. That and I will be sad to see Jericho lose his hair. 

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I was thinking Wardlow's Jobber Invitational could become a recurring thing on Dark. Like the world's best version of "Beat the Clock." Each hoss gets an endless stream of jabrons, and whoever can pin the most in five minutes wins.

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Thanks @NikoBaltimore , I won't actually see the match until later tonight, but there's hardly a chance that I won't enjoy it a lot!

Some people say that the toughest battles are those you have with yourself, and watching my two avatars going head to head will definitely be worth it!

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I thought the Battle Royal was kind of dumb because it's for a shot at the World Title! And then (I imagine!) all the top guys are like "Pfft, if I'm not winning, I don't want to be in it." So you have a Battle Royal for a shot at the title that does not include #4 Adam Page (Previous champ), #3 Adam Cole (just won your big tournament), Scorpio Sky/Sammy Guevara (Two guys trading your secondary title which would put them near the top in a kayfabe sense), #2 Wardlow (at least they explained that), #5 Jay Lethal, Samoa Joe , Christian (former World champ outside AEW), Jeff Hardy (former World Champ outside AEW), Jungle Boy (supposed pillar of AEW), and your biggest, most well-known star Chris Jericho.  I mean, you have at least kayfabed it by saying something like having a Battle Royal to take on Jon Moxley (The #1 ranked guy) but only including wrestlers who have never wrestled for a singles title in AEW or something! But this is like having a Battle Royal to determine the opponent for Hulk Hogan and having the Bushwackers in it.  It just seemed very silly even if the right guy probably won (In terms of putting on a good, credible main event match for Moxley; Darby would have been good, too; Andrade might not match up well with Moxley style-wise)

Shafir-Rosa was kinda ugly and non-cooperative-looking. I thought someone was about to get Sexy Starr-ed or something there. Thunder Rosa getting jumped after the bell, being saved by Toni Storm, hitting one move and celebrating over Shafir was a weird look for a face champ. "I did it all by myself!" I kinda like Shafir because her style is so unorthodox and she gives off kind of a female Rusev-vibe with her theme music but she should have a reverse-Lana manager (Good looking American dude who talks for her). 

Loved the main event. I knew Moxley was going to win -since he's lost what 2 singles matches in AEW (3? Is it more than 3? Lost to Jericho once or twice and Omega once or twice and Danielson...once? Are there more?)- but still thought there was maybe a chance. I think KOR's wrestling style might be more effective as a face, but he plays such a good dweeb-y MMA jerk that I don't think he should be turned, either.

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