hammerva Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/4/2022 at 5:05 PM, zendragon said: Stu Grayson might really benefit of a change in scenery. Either in the ROH relaunce or NWA, probably better to be a big fish in a smaller pond than to be the DO version of Scott Norton I like Stu Grayson but everyone knows that John Silver is the Scott Norton of the entire company much less the group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Meltzer mentioned in the Observer that trios titles have been made, so it's only a matter of time now. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Allegedly they've been holding off for Omega. Don't care about Undisputed Elite Civil War. Would like BCC vs Omega/Bucks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Some think those belts won't be under trios rules but regular six man tag rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krone Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 39 minutes ago, Blue Dragon said: Some think those belts won't be under trios rules but regular six man tag rules. I actually didn't know there was a difference. I thought trios just meant all hell breaks lose and there's no rules basically. But upon googling it, you have to pin a teams captain or the other two members of a team under trios rules, is that correct? Very unique and cool stipulation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Also in Lucha Libre, when the legal person of a team touches the floor outside the ring, one of that person's partners can enter the ring to take his place as the legal dude. There can be Face and Heel refs in the same match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryArchieGus Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 I'm sorta down with... 17 minutes ago, Blue Dragon said: ...when the legal person of a team touches the floor outside the ring, one of that person's partners can enter the ring to take his place as the legal dude. Thankfully, I don't see them suddenly taking on 'heel/face refs' nor the kinda confusing Captain/Non-Captain pinning rules. 2/3 falls would be fine, but those other lucha rules, even 2/3 falls, can often be potential momentum killers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) The problem with "trios rules" in matches in the states is that it's purely an excuse for spots and completely overlooks the structure of pairings > beatdown > comeback, with control being implicit and almost indirect and momentum-based more than control-based (and with dives as a means to clear the ring and set up the final pairing as opposed to being ends unto themselves, but that's almost beside the point). There's not only one right way to do this, especially in 2/3 falls CMLL matches. You can have the rudos rush the tecnicos to start and bypass those first exchanges or have the exchanges towards the end after a reset, but if there aren't meaningful momentum shifts with build and payoff instead of frequent ones involving frequent counters, it's shitty lucha. Edited May 6, 2022 by Matt D 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Texas Tornado rules: all of the tag team men are allowed in the ring at the same time. So no tagging needed. I used the Texas Tornado rules for FPR, because I didn't want to waste time making tag edits back then, even if I did...the AI would stop tagging in at some point for regular tag matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 I'm vocally anti-Trios title. It's gonna get expensive quickly to keep the division fresh. Just use the damn Freebird rule 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Zakk_Sabbath said: I'm vocally anti-Trios title. It's gonna get expensive quickly to keep the division fresh. Just use the damn Freebird rule Not really? There’s already 17 six man combos/groups they can use, and that’s not counting things like multiple combos of the Dark Order, JAS, etc not to mention outside pairings from partnered promotions, Dark talent they like, etc. I could see your argument being true if it was for the women’s division, but they have a huge men’s roster and more than enough talent to keep it fresh for a good while. And you know a trios title tournament would only be like 4-8 teams anyway. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 I'm not saying they don't have enough three man units for it, it's just that nearly half of them if not more are just regular tag teams plus one. For me personally, that's going to be way too much overlap between divisions. We're seeing this right now with how they're struggling to get Jade good challengers in the TBS division. Its just going to dilute the existing tag title division IMO. 4 hours ago, Casey said: really? There’s already 17 six man combos/groups they can use, and that’s not counting things like multiple combos of the Dark Order, JAS, et Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Sure I guess, but most of these teams like Butcher/Blade, 2.0, Silver/Reynolds etc won’t get a whiff of the tag titles or anything so why not give them a new division to play around in? It’s telling that two of the top ranked teams are just singles guys who have been tagging for a few weeks/off and on for a few months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted May 7, 2022 Author Share Posted May 7, 2022 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Could be interesting if the used an expanded freebird rule for the trios title. Any three members of The Elite, DO, Best Friends ect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted May 7, 2022 Author Share Posted May 7, 2022 :(. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 7 hours ago, The Natural said: Pure class by Stu Grayson. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryArchieGus Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 15 hours ago, Zakk_Sabbath said: I'm vocally anti-Trios title. It's gonna get expensive quickly to keep the division fresh. Just use the damn Freebird rule I'm with you, I never saw a good enough reason to have more belts, but it's happening and I've loved more than a handful of six man tags. And I'm very much into the BCC, House, Elite and Death Triangle. No sense resisting the inevitable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.H. Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 (edited) On 5/2/2022 at 2:41 AM, DreamBroken said: Interesting/cool as that was the nickname of Robert "RD" Evans, who worked with Keith when he first started in 2006. I wish it was former Paramount studio head Robert Evans managing Keith Lee. A Robert Evans run wrestling promotion are the things coked out dreams are made of! James Edited May 7, 2022 by J.H. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Meet the stars of Evans Championship Wrestling (ECW, ECW, ECW) The 123 Kid Stays in the Picture Intergender Tag Team Champions: Rosemary Bay Bay Steinertown Dude Love Story and of course…The Godfather 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krone Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Saw this on Twitter and couldn't believe it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Krone Meltzer said: Saw this on Twitter and couldn't believe it. I’ve watched him win many a singles match on 1.75x speed 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Two things I believe to be true: AEW is lucky to have Kaz to work with young wrestlers. Kaz is lucky that he’s still on national television with the current loaded roster. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krone Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Matt D said: I’ve watched him win many a singles match on 1.75x speed Dark or Elevation tho, right? I think this is just for Dynamite and Rampage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Casey said: Sure I guess, but most of these teams like Butcher/Blade, 2.0, Silver/Reynolds etc won’t get a whiff of the tag titles or anything so why not give them a new division to play around in? It’s telling that two of the top ranked teams are just singles guys who have been tagging for a few weeks/off and on for a few months. Fair enough, that's a good point. I just feel like if a team isn't good enough for the tag titles, they're probably not getting a trios title push either if it's true that they're waiting for Omega to return to be in it. And a small confession: I like JX, and Jungleboy is obviously going to be a star for years, but their title run is falling a little flat with me - I'd be into any of those three teams you listed as champs. Maybe they should have just done a TNT tag title instead Edit: though I guess a six man title would kind of achieve the same thing. Honestly, you might have convinced me Edited May 7, 2022 by Zakk_Sabbath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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