odessasteps Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Niners Fan in CT said: She can call the Meteora "The Hollywood Press" and call the Bank Statement "The Hollywood Ending" The Happy Ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, odessasteps said: The Happy Ending. That's too 90's ECW/WWF for me.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 So I think we've got this worked out. Lots of possibilities for Sasha in AEW with some minor tweaks and Naomi can be IMPACT tag champs with Ariane Andrew. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) I don't think that AEW is any good as a product and I wonder if the company still has post-merger support at its network; I think if Sasha really has an out that can get her into some other aspect of the entertainment business, and if she doesn't want to wrestle anymore (or wants to do something else for awhile and come back to wrestling later), she should take that out. Naomi probably should take any AEW deal that comes her way and probably could (also?) do some combination of Impact! and nu-NWA and other stuff and make pretty solid money. Edited May 23, 2022 by SirSmellingtonofCascadia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said: I don't think that AEW is any good as a product and I wonder if the company still has post-merger support at its network; It does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFistsJustFlips Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said: I don't think that AEW is any good as a product Everyone is entitled to their opinions, even when their opinions are wrong lol 3 minutes ago, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said: I wonder if the company still has post-merger support at its network Time will tell on this one, but I believe it to be an overblown talking point. AEW was displayed in the premium package for the cream of the crop to advertisers. So even tho they didn't go out of their way to hype AEW up as a big part of the future they also didn't no sell them. They were shown alongside The NBA, The NHL, & the top Food Network cooking shows under the Discovery umbrella. Hardly a snub. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I don't think that's necessarily true. They didn't have AEW all over up-fronts the other week. Compared to Fox and NBCU having WWE wrestlers at their up-fronts, I think that's interesting. Believe me, I'm not a pro-WWE AEW doomer or anything. The only thing that actually interests me about either company is their business moves, is what it is. 1 minute ago, NoFistsJustFlips said: Everyone is entitled to their opinions, even when their opinions are wrong lol I agree, which is why I encourage you to keep arguing that AEW puts on good shows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Just now, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said: The only thing that actually interests me about either company is their business moves, is what it is. Have you ever heard of this wrestler called Serpentico? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said: I don't think that's necessarily true. They didn't have AEW all over up-fronts the other week. Compared to Fox and NBCU having WWE wrestlers at their up-fronts, I think that's interesting. DiscoveryWarner’s upfront presentation was the day of a Dynamite taping. AEW didn’t have anyone of consequence they could send. And upfronts are all about razzle dazzle for potential advertisers. If you don’t have stars to put on stage, you’re not going to be featured on the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Arguably, is it more important to have, say, Phil or Brian, on a regular episode of your TV show or at the network upfront repping your brand? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Just now, odessasteps said: Arguably, is it more important to have, say, Phil or Brian, on a regular episode of your TV show or at the network upfront repping your brand? When you’re two weeks out from a PPV, probably the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, odessasteps said: Arguably, is it more important to have, say, Phil or Brian, on a regular episode of your TV show or at the network upfront repping your brand? Rippa or Schneider? 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Tony probably could have had Shaq be part of a panel or walkout with Jade Cargill (who looks like a star) and shown highlights from that match or something. That's the kind of thing advertisers gush over. On the Naomi front, I don't see her doing anything outside of WWE wrestling wise unless she got a nice deal from AEW. She's been around forever in WWE and married to Jimmy Uso, she's always going to have a connection there, I just don't see her doing an indy tour or signing to iMPACT or something of that nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I mean, they also didn't get much of the sizzle reel, and I don't buy "there was a Dynamite" as an excuse because Discovery/WB could have solicited a video or AEW could have done a pre-taped segment to free up one of their stars. I don't think Dynamite and a PPV in two weeks is stopping AEW from sending anyone to up-fronts if Discovery/WB wants them there. But eh, you know, I will agree to disagree about how ominous or not the up-fronts were for AEW. I will say that even if AEW is beloved by the new leadership, it probably behooves Sasha to focus less on wrestling if she can and if that's what she wants to do for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 It seems like you’ve kind of just made your mind up that AEW has a problem with their network, which is fine, but there is literally no solid evidence to support it. The notion that AEW has any kind of TV issues is purely an invention of the wrestling bubble. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, EVA said: It seems like you’ve kind of just made your mind up that AEW has a problem with their network, which is fine, but there is literally no solid evidence to support it. The notion that AEW has any kind of TV issues is purely an invention of the wrestling bubble. And it seems like you've made up your mind that AEW is perfectly fine with the network, which is fine, but there's just as much solid evidence. We'll see when the new TV contract comes up. I know that some people in the wrestling bubble are desperate for a legitimate stateside competitor to WWE, so they get very territorial about that. Edited May 23, 2022 by SirSmellingtonofCascadia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I'm going to tread lightly because this could be misconstrued as an anti-AEW post and it really is my favorite promotion despite some concerns I have but.. I did think it was noteworthy how quiet Warner/Discovery were on AEW at upfront. Now this is a promotion that usually either wins Wednesday night for them or comes close to it week in and week out, you'd think they'd want to hype that more instead of it being a secret that they have tucked away in its own universe. I hope the new executives aren't "embarrassed" to have wrestling as one of their entertainment leaders. HBO and the like have built up their reputation on prestige. But then there's Discovery who have built their most recent model on the backs of reality show trash so you'd want to believe that aren't going to pretend to be above it all when it comes to wrestling. Just an odd thing, it did bother me that AEW didn't have much of a presence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I mean, it's Discovery. I remember when they showed docs on humpback whales and the Amazon rainforest. Now it's all HGTV reality shows and Food Network reality shows (OK, I love me some Cutthroat Kitchen, I admit) and really low-brow reality crap beneath that. I can't imagine being embarrassed about wrestling if I'm a Discovery/WB exec based on the utter garbage that is flooding Discovery+. I had a free few months of it and never used it because I already saw all the Cutthroat Kitchen and Chopped that I could want to watch on Hulu, and everything else on it is trash. I mean, again, Chopped and Cutthroat Kitchen are also trash, but I like those. So yeah, it's weird to me that they have a cable show that sits at 800-950K viewers a week in the mid-week and they're not excited about it openly, especially because they need streaming material for Discovery+ on top of having a show that performs well in its slot. That's not a product of being in the wrestling bubble. That's just like, paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Great Justice Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 You ain’t lying about Discovery’s image. They run Texas enough that they should have Joanna do a run in to hit Britt with loaded shiplap to crown new Magnolia Home Tag Champs 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said: And it seems like you've made up your mind that AEW is perfectly fine with the network, which is fine, but there's just as much solid evidence. We'll see when the new TV contract comes up. Except there actually is evidence to support it, if you know how the TV industry works. Discovery would not have put Dynamite in their Premiere ad package (which is the lynchpin of Discovery’s efforts to charge broadcast ad rates on cable) if they didn’t view Dynamite as A) valuable and attractive to advertisers, and B) something they were committed to long-term. Edited May 23, 2022 by EVA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, EVA said: Except there actually is evidence to support it, if you know how the TV industry works. Discovery would not have put Dynamite in their Premier ad package (which is the lynchpin of Discovery’s efforts to charge broadcast ad rates on cable) if they didn’t view Dynamite as A) valuable and attractive to advertisers, and B) something they were committed to long-term. Do you work in the TV industry? I'm always glad to learn from an expert. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFistsJustFlips Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 More worrisome than the upfronts non-story is that the new head of programming is all about slashing the budget. So in context 6 months ago AEW may have been banking on a rights fee increase due to over performance. But now they might only get an offer of keeping the current rate. While they perform well above what the deal pays, if slashing the budget is the name of the game it's very unlikely even a well performing show will get MORE money in that market. So even if Discovery is content or happy with them, they still might be shopping the shows around come negotiation time. From how Meltzer reports on it, AEW is needing a rights fee increase to keep growing. Just agreeing to the same deal again for a new term would stagnate them. That's way more likely than Discovery being outrigt unhappy and wanting to openly dump them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 59 minutes ago, JLowe said: Rippa or Schneider? Given that TK was on his pod, I'd guess the latter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted May 23, 2022 Author Share Posted May 23, 2022 Dynamite is probably fine, but Rampage looks like it may be booted off to TBS on a new day or some other lower even more niche WBD channel, where ratings don't really matter. The ratings for the Rampage show has greatly plummeted over time. It could even be axed. Warner Bros. Discovery or Warner Bros. Discovery, Inc. (WBD) was founded on April 8, 2022; so it's really a new company. While the older companies WBD owns are subsidiaries. HBO Max and Discovery Plus are expected to merge into a single platform. To cut costs. https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/hbo-max-discovery-plus-combined-streaming-service-bundle-1235204060/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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