Dolfan in NYC Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 If you haven't seen it yet, be sure to check out today's Google Doodle 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 17 hours ago, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said: Who did, "Hey, that black guy has blonde hair" as a gimmick better: "The Natural" Butch Reed, or "The Gold Standard" Shelton Benjamin? Sweet Daddy Siki 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted May 22, 2022 Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 [Sad news]: No real news today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Dolfan in NYC said: If you haven't seen it yet, be sure to check out today's Google Doodle I was one of the uninitiated - very good Wiki read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Library Dude said: Miro posted a laughing emoji in response to Punk's comments on the Naomi/Sasha thing. People will read that different ways but I took it to mean that he thought Punk was full of shit to be pushing a "solidarity with workers" angle given the way Punk has talked about him and Lana in the past. You know Punk tells this story to show how we was trying to help a new guy but I'm guessing "that fucking Rusev guy" and "fucking scared of me" didn't win him a ton of goodwill. I know Punk comes across as a prick in his delivery but I never saw it as an attack on Rusev personally as much as it was an example of how on eggshells the new guys are in that company. He was brand new to the main roster and you can really blame the guy for not wanting to step on any toes. It was really good of Punk to give him that advice knowing the environment. And the situation with he and Lana has to be the most obvious example or at least top 2 or 3 blantantly obvious examples of them fucking with a couple just because they could long before the angle with Lashley. So I can see Punk being genuinely bothered by them not standing up for themselves especially by the time the Lashley angle came around Plus Rusev had been around long enough any had no delusions about where they saw him in the company by then. I agree with Mark Henry 100% about how unnecessary WWE burying Naomi and Sasha on TV. I do believe he is genuinely upset about it but up until he wasn't under contract with WWE he seemed to be very pro company over the talent in other instances. His response to the situation really makes me hope Uce really voiced his displeasure about the situation. If he walked out over it , it probably would have hurt company more than Sasha and Naomi given how the Usos are directly tied to Roman on TV. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 3 hours ago, cwoy2j said: Sweet Daddy Siki Not that he did it better, but Jobbo B. Ware also had the blond hair (and blue/multi-colored sideburns) from lateish '89 to '91(?) in WWF. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Yeah It is hard for Punk to support your fellow man whether you believe in it or not when you have ghosted your best friend for close to a decade based on what happened with Punk leaving the WWE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 4 hours ago, cwoy2j said: Sweet Daddy Siki Would also accept Koko as an answer. George Wells, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 56 minutes ago, Ziggy said: I know Punk comes across as a prick in his delivery but I never saw it as an attack on Rusev personally as much as it was an example of how on eggshells the new guys are in that company. He was brand new to the main roster and you can really blame the guy for not wanting to step on any toes. It was really good of Punk to give him that advice knowing the environment. And the situation with he and Lana has to be the most obvious example or at least top 2 or 3 blantantly obvious examples of them fucking with a couple just because they could long before the angle with Lashley. So I can see Punk being genuinely bothered by them not standing up for themselves especially by the time the Lashley angle came around Plus Rusev had been around long enough any had no delusions about where they saw him in the company by then. I agree with Mark Henry 100% about how unnecessary WWE burying Naomi and Sasha on TV. I do believe he is genuinely upset about it but up until he wasn't under contract with WWE he seemed to be very pro company over the talent in other instances. His response to the situation really makes me hope Uce really voiced his displeasure about the situation. If he walked out over it , it probably would have hurt company more than Sasha and Naomi given how the Usos are directly tied to Roman on TV. Where would standing up to WWE at that point would've gotten Rusev and Lana? At the very least, Rusev was able to get a body of work and managed to get over with the fans, so he could have something going on when he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 21 hours ago, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said: Who did, "Hey, that black guy has blonde hair" as a gimmick better: "The Natural" Butch Reed, or "The Gold Standard" Shelton Benjamin? the answer is Dusty Rhodes 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Ziggy said: I know Punk comes across as a prick You could have stopped there. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFistsJustFlips Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 1 hour ago, hammerva said: Yeah It is hard for Punk to support your fellow man whether you believe in it or not when you have ghosted your best friend for close to a decade based on what happened with Punk leaving the WWE He didn't just wake up one day and say fuck my best friend. There are mitigating circumstances here and money issues and promises that may have been made / lied about. We don't know all the details. For all we know Colt could have done something shitty in this situation that hasn't gotten out to the public. Not really fair to use interpersonal dynamics of a friendship we don't know all the details of to damn one side. 16 minutes ago, TheVileOne said: Where would standing up to WWE at that point would've gotten Rusev and Lana? At the very least, Rusev was able to get a body of work and managed to get over with the fans, so he could have something going on when he left. He did manage to get over with the fans. Big time actually with that Rusev Day stuff. Did that matter? He was slotted where he was slotted by the office. No amount of being a good soldier and getting over and delivering his best could change that. It's been proven that McMahon respects the people that stand up to him more than the people who just go with the flow. Not saying walking out back then would have made him a mega star. But keeping quiet sure didn't either. I personally respect the guys & girls more who will put their foot down and have some integrity and say I don't think this is very good, we should be doing better. And I think the positioning and power the wrestlers would be able to wield would be better off if they rallied behind each other in circumstances like this. Not expecting others to walk over it. Just showing support online. Posting about not agreeing with WWE being petty. Putting it out there that it's not right. You don't have to quit. But staying silent doesn't help anyone. It just hurts yourself when and if they decide to treat you like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Just now, NoFistsJustFlips said: He didn't just wake up one day and say fuck my best friend. There are mitigating circumstances here and money issues and promises that may have been made / lied about. We don't know all the details. For all we know Colt could have done something shitty in this situation that hasn't gotten out to the public. Not really fair to use interpersonal dynamics of a friendship we don't know all the details of to damn one side. He did manage to get over with the fans. Big time actually with that Rusev Day stuff. Did that matter? He was slotted where he was slotted by the office. No amount of being a good soldier and getting over and delivering his best could change that. It's been proven that McMahon respects the people that stand up to him more than the people who just go with the flow. Not saying walking out back then would have made him a mega star. But keeping quiet sure didn't either. I personally respect the guys & girls more who will put their foot down and have some integrity and say I don't think this is very good, we should be doing better. And I think the positioning and power the wrestlers would be able to wield would be better off if they rallied behind each other in circumstances like this. Not expecting others to walk over it. Just showing support online. Posting about not agreeing with WWE being petty. Putting it out there that it's not right. You don't have to quit. But staying silent doesn't help anyone. It just hurts yourself when and if they decide to treat you like that. Yes it did matter in the sense he was able to sign a contract somewhere else after he got released. It helped him move merchandise and make money. The problem is the people it didn't matter to are WWE and Vince McMahon who basically punished Rusev for not getting over when they weren't pushing him and didn't want to get over that way. It matters to Rusev because it helped him build a fanbase and a following so he can make a living. If a guy like Cardona is willing to put his career on the line and stand up for himself, I say go for it. But it's really not going to matter unless bigger stars start doing it en masse, people at a Roman Reigns, Ronda Rousey, Randy Orton level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 45 minutes ago, Trebor said: the answer is Dusty Rhodes Superstar Billy Graham. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Bones Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Well sign me up for Champion Punk vs. Miro feud. Where they shoot deep cut promos at each other and bleed to death at 5:30 pm on the west coast! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_K Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ziggy said: I agree with Mark Henry 100% about how unnecessary WWE burying Naomi and Sasha on TV. I do believe he is genuinely upset about it but up until he wasn't under contract with WWE he seemed to be very pro company over the talent in other instances. His response to the situation really makes me hope Uce really voiced his displeasure about the situation. If he walked out over it , it probably would have hurt company more than Sasha and Naomi given how the Usos are directly tied to Roman on TV. Yeah .. I'd heartily recommend you listen back to Mark Henry/Bubba Ray Dudley podcast where they merrily discuss their antics about "educating someone in the physical manner because they're not getting it verbally .. there is nothing wrong with that, if you can't understand verbally, you need to be educated in a physical way", and castigate any talent (or rather - as Mark elegantly puts it - "soft ass people") who would report assault to management or the agents ("which ha ha .. is really fucking dumb .. because the agents are just one of the boys anyway"). Ironically one story is where one of the La Resistance guys asks Bubba why he is 'shooting' on him in the ring, so Bubba of course smacks him around the face until Laurinaitis (of all people) had to step in to stop Bubba from - in his own words - "beating on the young boys". These are company men, full of shit nasty pieces of work who will take whichever side of the argument enriches them most in the moment they are in. Complete and utter hypocrites on this subject. Edited May 22, 2022 by A_K 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Not sure if this is true, but Meltzer stated on WOR that WWE froze Sasha and Naomi's contracts, and they will be kept on ice as long as possible. He said if they really wanted to leave, they should not have walked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, TheVileOne said: Not sure if this is true, but Meltzer stated on WOR that WWE froze Sasha and Naomi's contracts, and they will be kept on ice as long as possible. He said if they really wanted to leave, they should not have walked out. I don't think Vince was letting either of them leave anyway. Meltzer's point is moot mute myoote. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Sasha should give the Disney lawyers a call. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 I genuinely am curious if the radio silence equates to a preparation of legal action on either of their parts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 28 minutes ago, Matt D said: Sasha should give the Disney lawyers a call. or Scar Jo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted May 22, 2022 Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 Mercedes Varnado and Trinity Fatu should go to the other WWE...... WSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Oh my GOD, this child is going to be a shooter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 They should be able to challenge it, if true. You can't suspend someone without pay forever. Unless they want to suspend them with pay which sounds like a good deal. Plenty of concerts this Summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFistsJustFlips Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: They should be able to challenge it, if true. You can't suspend someone without pay forever. Unless they want to suspend them with pay which sounds like a good deal. Plenty of concerts this Summer. I don't think it's without pay. The only way they can freeze the amount of time passing on a contract (which is what they mean when they say freeze it), is if they're still paying the wrestler their downside guarantee. So they would get paid whatever their base salary is. But if say Sasha had 5 months left on her deal when she walked out, in 5 months she'll still have 5 months left assuming she doesn't come back. She'll be at 5 months indefinitely until they "unfreeze" it. I know they used the word suspended. But I don't think they can suspend her without pay AND freeze her contract. It's gotta be one or the other. She can do whatever she wants during that time, except wrestling for a non WWE entity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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