SirSmUgly Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, KingM said: Not my job to spoonfeed you when several other websites reported it, it's your job to know it and you are living in the search your own info age. You also need to really tone down your gimmick, I find it extremely rude. Here bunch of the many links just for you though https://www.thesportster.com/news/lowest-drawing-wwe-champion-ever/#:~:text=An extensive study into live,drawing champions of all time. https://www.therichest.com/wrestling/the-15-wwe-champions-you-didnt-know-drew-low-ratings/ https://www.pwmania.com/forbes-picks-up-story-about-worst-drawing-wwe-champions Low in most of the metrics combined. Actually, the person who makes the claim has the responsibility of supporting it with evidence, but do you. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFistsJustFlips Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, KingM said: Not my job to spoonfeed you when several other websites reported it, it's your job to know it and you are living in the search your own info age. You also need to really tone down your gimmick, I find it extremely rude. Wow and you say I was rude? Well I apologize if you found my comment rude. I wasn't taking a shot at you personally or calling you inaccurate. I was, in a conversationalist tone, saying that's crazy I don't believe that without seeing it. Not calling you out. No gimmick here my man. I'm just a dude. Not a perfect dude or anyone special. Just a dude. Like everyone else here. (Except for the few women we have here lol). - As for the sources you provided... The first is based on a Twitter user's spreadsheet. It links to the user's post but it is now unavailable to view. So I couldn't verify any of his data. Source one essentially boils down to some guy on Twitter without being able to view the data. So let's chuck that one out. It very well could be super accurate data, but I want to view it myself. I'm sure you understand me no longer wanting to be spoon fed. The second link cites no sources. And doesn't even list them in any order specific. It's a generic Top 15 list without any data other than saying these guys drew lower than you thought. Eddie is 15 out of 15. Diesel is 1 out of 15. Is 15 the worst or is 1 the worst? No way to determine that through reading the article. No data to verify here either. So Chucking this one out. Source three is PWMania.com (via Forbes). This article is based on the same Twitter user's data from source one. So again can't use this to verify anything. No data to view. Very well could be accurate but I wish to no longer be spoon fed. - Have anything other than some guy named "nWoWolfPacTV" on Twitter who's data I can't even view for myself? It's especially confusing because source one uses the same data as source three, but source one says Kofi is breaking records as champion and source three says "Kofi Kingston and Seth Rollins are two of the most beloved stars in WWE, but they haven’t drawn well as world champions". So I'm confused by two polar opposite interpretations of the same data. According to my own Google search I've found varying answers depending on the site. None of them have any actual data sourced besides that user on Twitter. Sportskeeda says Diesel. What Culture says Diesel. Bleecher Report says Vince McMahon. Mandatory.com says Diesel. (Apologies if this came off rude to you as well. Not my intention.) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, NoFistsJustFlips said: Have anything other than some guy named "nWoWolfPacTV" on Twitter who's data I can't even view for myself? Name a more trustworthy source. I'll wait. 3 3 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 52 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said: Name a more trustworthy source. I'll wait. ATTITUDE69ERA420 is a fair and balanced source. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 i'm interested in what criteria would be used to mathematically prove "the worst". smallest houses (revenue or attendance)? lowest ratings? fewest ppv buys? least twitter/google searches? and how do you determine which factor overrules another? how does someone with a short reign correlate to a long run on top? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) And haven’t we seen lots of historical data, like attendances, is unreliable? do you trust promoters? Newspapers? Not with certainty. Edited April 25, 2022 by odessasteps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Not only that, WWE's business goes up and down seasonally. A 2 month world title reign during the NFL season is going to be handicapped compared to one between the Rumble and Mania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Listen to Beau I think on last weeks BTS talk about how his booking was determined by the known seasonal variations there. Weather, school, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFistsJustFlips Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 What's the protocol on posting DMs in the threads? Is it allowed? I'll like to post the convo I just had to save us all some time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, NoFistsJustFlips said: What's the protocol on posting DMs in the threads? Is it allowed? I'll like to post the convo I just had to save us all some time. Some will do it without really giving a shit one way or the other. Personally unless the person is kind of crazy I think its a bit unfair, especially if they were DMing to avoid spamming the thread with conflict. We only have 5 days left. Why risk getting the thread closed by annoying RIPPA and/or Dolfin? Edited April 26, 2022 by Eivion 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GuerrillaMonsoon Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Seeing as only one guy in history bodyslammed an actual giant so hard he died in front of 900,000 people at the Superdome, which lead to the place actually having to be shut down and the international dateline being re-evaluated, I don't think the numbers are going to be fair. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stefanie Without Stefanie Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 22 minutes ago, GuerrillaMonsoon said: Seeing as only one guy in history bodyslammed an actual giant so hard he died in front of 900,000 people at the Superdome, which lead to the place actually having to be shut down and the international dateline being re-evaluated, I don't think the numbers are going to be fair. Speaking in my official capacity as a statistical analyst... *clears throat* Numbers are bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Just now, Stefanie the Human said: Speaking in my official capacity as a statistical analyst... *clears throat* Numbers are bullshit. What’s really important is not dropping your selling of limbwork when it’s time to get your stuff in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stefanie Without Stefanie Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Matt D said: What’s really important is not dropping your selling of limbwork when it’s time to get your stuff in. That's very difficult to get into a graph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Which is why we've always used missile dropkicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stefanie Without Stefanie Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, GuerrillaMonsoon said: Which is why we've always used missile dropkicks. Gonna have to break out the exploding pie charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 I would consider it forced emotional labor if anyone asked me to provide supporting evidence for any of my dumbass posts. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, Matt D said: What’s really important is not dropping your selling of limbwork when it’s time to get your stuff in. How have Cody’s missile dropkick been since his return? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stefanie Without Stefanie Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Just now, (BP) said: I would consider it forced emotional labor if anyone asked me to provide supporting evidence for any of my dumbass posts. Have you considered invoicing at a freelancer rate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Just now, odessasteps said: How have Cody’s missile dropkick been since his return? Lucrative. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) Haven’t watched tonight’s match yet, but I believe Cody’s evolved beyond the missile dropkick. Unless we’re counting his kick off the ropes as a dropkick. Someone will remind me of something I’ve forgotten surely. Edited April 26, 2022 by John from Cincinnati Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted April 26, 2022 Author Share Posted April 26, 2022 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 A young Ricky Hatton watched that segment, and thought to himself "Hmmm...." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Good for him 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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