Thomas Bugg Posted March 3, 2022 Posted March 3, 2022 When I was doing ring crew at a Lucha show in Phoenix not too long ago, in the main event a guy named Perrush-K wound up winning the match and the title, but in the process bled buckets. Yeah, it was real fun cleaning up the ring afterwards So we started talking about Muta scale matches, and the usual suspects came up (Heavenly Bodies vs Thrillseekers, Eddie Guerrero vs JBL, etc). But this young 20-year-old kid told me about this match that I'm posting here Maybe I'm way late to the party, but I never knew that Luchadores could get downright violent like this! I mean, I read a lot of history and all, but I've never seen it until now. And I gotta say, the selling in this match is Valentine levels of believable. So now I wanna see more, dammit! DVDVR, please help me to find more good stuff like this. 1
Curt McGirt Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 Well you should probably start with the best. 2
Phil Schneider Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 I mean I wrote a book https://www.amazon.com/dp/173494594X?&linkCode=shr&tag=hybridshoot-20&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_shr&creativeASIN=173494594X&camp=213733&creative=393177&linkId=1333786b5c004c6428b89748a01a79ae 16 of the 100 were lucha matches https://hybridshoot.substack.com/p/way-of-the-blade-viewers-guide?s=r 2 1
Phil Schneider Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 Best match anywhere in the world in 2021 was a bloody violent lucha match 1
Hector Posted March 6, 2022 Posted March 6, 2022 It's not a bloody one, but Santo vs Casas from 97 was a wildly stiff and violent match. But yes, there's a ton of awesome lucha bloodbaths that span the decades from Pirata Morgan/Satanico to Black Terry/Wotan from a few years ago. 1
matwarz Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 On 3/4/2022 at 2:20 PM, Curt McGirt said: Well you should probably start with the best. Anyone know the source for this version as I’m still a physical media person. I’d never actually seen this version, the one I have from Barnett years ago is dark and washed out. Thanks!
onelegbrynn Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 @Curt McGirtI've never seen the MS1 vs. Sangre Chicana match so thanks for sharing the link! @Thomas BuggThat Blue Demon Jr vs. Dr. Wagner Jr is such a bloodbath but it's very, very good! The legendary Atlantis vs. Villano III mascara vs mascara from March, 17 2000 match is one of my favorite matches ever. It's bloody. It tells a great story and the action itself is just so, so awesome! 5 1
Curt McGirt Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 ^^^The Greatest^^^ What a match. Easy top five of all time. 2
onelegbrynn Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 On the topic of the Villano III vs Atlantis mask vs mask match…I shared the match with a friend of mine and they liked it but they also asked about the context of match and the history of the feud, especially the singles matches the two had in 1999 against each other over the CMLL World Light Heavyweight title. I don’t know much about the whole history between them as my knowledge of Lucha history is pretty bad. But just was is the context of the match and exactly how heated was their feud? And I’m guessing Villano hoisting Atlantis on his shoulders at the end of the match was a respect thing? 1
grilledcheese Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 I don't think anything tops MS-1 / Sangre Chicana, and Villano III / Atlantis is another really good shout, but I am pretty partial to this Santito / LA Park match as well. Santo hits a goddamn GUSHER, but both of them end up just absolutely covered in blood. All white outfit on Park is a dead giveaway of what we are getting, and man oh man do they deliver. 4
Pete Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 On 6/12/2022 at 12:17 PM, onelegbrynn said: On the topic of the Villano III vs Atlantis mask vs mask match…I shared the match with a friend of mine and they liked it but they also asked about the context of match and the history of the feud, especially the singles matches the two had in 1999 against each other over the CMLL World Light Heavyweight title. I don’t know much about the whole history between them as my knowledge of Lucha history is pretty bad. But just was is the context of the match and exactly how heated was their feud? And I’m guessing Villano hoisting Atlantis on his shoulders at the end of the match was a respect thing? V3 and Atlantis had been feuding for years. The previous year's Anniversary show had a parejas increibles match with Niebla/Shocker vs Atlantis/V3 where the losing team would have an apuestas match... everyone "knew" Atlantis/V3 would lose and have their battle for the masks, but a funny thing happened on the way to the Forum and they kept the feud hot for a whole year longer until 2000.
onelegbrynn Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Pete said: V3 and Atlantis had been feuding for years. The previous year's Anniversary show had a parejas increibles match with Niebla/Shocker vs Atlantis/V3 where the losing team would have an apuestas match... everyone "knew" Atlantis/V3 would lose and have their battle for the masks, but a funny thing happened on the way to the Forum and they kept the feud hot for a whole year longer until 2000. Thanks for the info and for the match link! Now I have something new to check out tonight!
mysterious_w Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 8:49 AM, Pete said: V3 and Atlantis had been feuding for years. The previous year's Anniversary show had a parejas increibles match with Niebla/Shocker vs Atlantis/V3 where the losing team would have an apuestas match... everyone "knew" Atlantis/V3 would lose and have their battle for the masks, but a funny thing happened on the way to the Forum and they kept the feud hot for a whole year longer until 2000. What's the story you allude to, behind switching up the apuestas?
SirFozzie Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 I think it was one of those "We don't want the fans to come in, knowing who's going to win the big matches, because, why would they come?" Kinda like what WWE did one time, when they had basically telegraphed Shawn Michaels winning the Royal Rumble to get the Undertaker, only to pull a swerve and get there through another method.
paul sosnowski Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 How has no one mentioned this??? So violent, you have to prove that you're an adult to be able to watch it!!! Trauma I vs Canis Lupus. IWRG September 4, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko2wNEo4k60 1 1
Curt McGirt Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 There was an awesome mano a mano match (I think) between two younger guys in IWRG a year or two back that had a total of six moves but was a gorefest and jaw-dropping good. It's in the BLOODSUCKING FREAKS thread somewhere. I can't remember the participants at all, and if you put "IWRG mano a mano" into Youtube you get literally a thousand matches, all of which are probably just as gory.
Ultimo The Great Posted December 22, 2023 Posted December 22, 2023 Not a lot of mat work here. Bloody, crazy bumps.....all a bit insane really 2
Mike Campbell Posted February 17, 2024 Posted February 17, 2024 https://youtu.be/n3yd6JgX18k?si=SVk6hQV_TLvKilxK 1
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