TheVileOne Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 To me the more egregious instance of Triple H trying to bury and hurt a man's career is CM Punk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Cobra Commander said: if anybody in the WWE Creative actually watched the Oscars, they might have Seth Rollins make some joke about Brandi somehow only for Cody Rhodes to make his debut to slap him. Best we can hope for is one liner from Corey Graves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) Given Vince’s pop culture time warp, we’re more likely to get a streaker or Winona Littleheart showing up as someone’s proxy. Edited March 28, 2022 by odessasteps 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 "What do you mean Morganna the Kissing Bandit is retired?" (somehow she was not a celebrity at Wrestlemania II) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Was Booker any more or less a credible contender and over with the crowd in a novelty tag team when Daniel Bryan main evented Summerslam against Cena from a similar position? The Pritchard argument of getting to Goldberg anyway makes no sense because the way things panned out is that you could still arrive at that point with minimal change to the storylines. The 6 man tag between Booker/Shawn/Nash vs Jericho/Flair/HHH still occurs with different title. You probably still do HHH/Nash main event while Booker defends on the undercard rather than being in the IC battle royal. Sure he gets injured and put onto he shelf not long after, but wouldn't Goldberg winning the Elimination Chamber keeps Booker strong and then builds to a HHH one on one match from there make more sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 On 3/26/2022 at 8:26 PM, Niners Fan in CT said: RVD for example was given the chance to main event WWE and usher in a new era of ECW and he would rather get pulled over with drugs in the car than to take his role seriously. 20 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said: 1. That doesn't matter, a lot of people don't mean to do something, we don't know what was going through his mind. You literally just assumed what was on his mind. Smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 7 hours ago, Cobra Commander said: if anybody in the WWE Creative actually watched the Oscars, they might have Seth Rollins make some joke about Brandi somehow only for Cody Rhodes to make his debut to slap him. God I hope not. #fuckwillsmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I’m thinking I watch too much pro wrestling because I swear that slap was worked. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) On 3/26/2022 at 10:28 AM, Kevin Wilson said: HHH of all people clearly had the power to refuse to do anything he didn't want to do.... Yes, but at the time HHH was firmly up his own ass in his "cosplay Race and Flair" phase. And those guys worked bigoted angles like that, so naturally he wanted to try it, too. 18 hours ago, Krone Meltzer said: I could be wrong on this, but if I remember correctly (and I could be off base on this) - but I seem to recall Prichard saying on his podcast years ago that they had initially penciled in the Steiner/HHH feud to be a 3 eventer (Rumble, No Way Out, Mania) but that Scott's in ring performance was so bad they had to pivot away from that and we ended up with Booker T. Oh Prichard. Sure, Scott's performance was bad. Awesome to see sycophants put the blame on the guy who most likely wasn't calling the match. See comment above about HHH's "old school worker" phase. It's not Steiner's fault HHH decided that a guy with a bad back and drop foot needed to be carried by superworker HHH to a 20 minute classic. Christ, it's the Rumble. The title match isn't even the star of the show. If the idea is to get to the next PPV, and with a limited opponent, get in and get out with a quick angle or something. Instead, HHH punched above his weight,work-wise, exposed Steiner, and blew the whole planned story. Edited March 28, 2022 by Technico Support 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, username said: I think this is why it didn't work and something they at times struggles with when talent moved from NXT to the main roster. Emma worked on NXT because she started off as a goof who no one should take seriously and gradually became someone worth believing in. The problem is that you can't then bring her onto the main show and act like that crowd is gonna take her seriously, but also if you just pretend that all that happened on NXT didn't happen then a portion of the audience is gonna grumble (for the main example see when Bayley got called up and how much they struggled to thread that needle). Also TBH Emma seemed embarrassed to be doing it on the big show so it was likely gonna die regardless, scrapping it and having her reload back down in NXT was probably the right move. I disagree. That audience will take almost anything seriously, if they present it seriously. Orange Cassidey, Danhausen, Santino, and countless others have been utterly ridiculous, but they kept putting it on television and treating it like it was serious and all of them got over. I'm not saying Emma would have turned into a huge star, but they didn't give her a chance to get over. @NoFistsJustFlipsOK, I see where you are coming from. I actually agree with that, and it is what I was talking about when I said I'd rather someone else paint the picture and let him fill in the blank spaces. He's not someone who I think has great ideas, but I think he's the kind of guy who can someone else's great idea work. I agree his best match is the Royal Rumble match with Foley. Foley is his best opponent, because Foley is someone who can come up with a bunch of crazy ideas and HHH can put the pieces together. It's HHH's greatest ability as a worker, but after he became an established main eventer he was too often put in the position to come up with the ideas and absolutely sucked at it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 His best match is the Foley match. Which isn't close to being Foley's best match. Might not even be in his top 10, if you're a top 10s guy. There really aren't that many wrestlers who had their career best match with Triple H. Which for a guy who was a perennial main eventer who worked with every big star they had (or tried to make), is pretty embarrassing. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_K Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Log said: I’m thinking I watch too much pro wrestling because I swear that slap was worked. Yeah, you watch too much wrestling. The guy made fun of his wife’s alopecia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_K Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, GuerrillaMonsoon said: Was Booker any more or less a credible contender and over with the crowd in a novelty tag team when Daniel Bryan main evented Summerslam against Cena from a similar position? Yes. Bryan had won the belt in the promotion already & held for a third of a year. Booker brought his belt over to the promotion, promptly dropped it, was chased around a grocery store and bingo hall, covered with food then kidded around with Golddust doing Star Wars and sex jokes. Not similar (& I liked WCW Booker .. but WWF Booker at that time wasn’t it). He was a placeholder at that point in time for a reason. Edited March 28, 2022 by A_K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 40 minutes ago, A_K said: Yeah, you watch too much wrestling. The guy made fun of his wife’s alopecia. It's kinda funny that he's ok with her cheating on him and causing him embarrassment, but so sensitive about a joke on an awards show. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, A_K said: Yeah, you watch too much wrestling. The guy made fun of his wife’s alopecia. I was joking. Jesus. Edited March 28, 2022 by Log 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 9 hours ago, Krone Meltzer said: I remember hearing this exact story on that exact podcast on a trip to South Carolina. Something like 90 a day. That just doesn't even seem real does it. Yeah it was unreal. How do you not overdose right then and there? I know the long-term damage has to be off the charts but I feel like if I took 90 pills in one day, my liver and kidneys would explode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, cwoy2j said: Yeah it was unreal. How do you not overdose right then and there? I know the long-term damage has to be off the charts but I feel like if I took 90 pills in one day, my liver and kidneys would explode. Read the book Dopesick. Opiod addiction is rough because you body turns against you to the point that you have to take an ungodly amount of pills just to stop yourself from being violently ill. Yes your liver and kidneys might explode from the pills, but everything else might shut down without the pills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_K Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 46 minutes ago, Infinit said: It's kinda funny that he's ok with her cheating on him and causing him embarrassment, but so sensitive about a joke on an awards show. Eh, you do you. She certainly didn't look very amused by the joke. Smith did what he did and he bears the consequences. You make your own decisions as to how you respond around interactions concerning your family. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarheel Moneghetti Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Infinit said: It's kinda funny that he's ok with her cheating on him and causing him embarrassment, but so sensitive about a joke on an awards show. Maybe that was in the past and they’re in a better place now? Reading a couple tabloid headlines seldom makes anyone an expert on another person’s relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 56 minutes ago, A_K said: Eh, you do you. She certainly didn't look very amused by the joke. Smith did what he did and he bears the consequences. You make your own decisions as to how you respond around interactions concerning your family. Well, he looked amused enough for the both of them, until she said something to him I'm sure. I'm personally convinced that Will Smith wasn't slapping Chris Rock, he was slapping August Alsina. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 hours ago, supremebve said: I disagree. That audience will take almost anything seriously, if they present it seriously. Orange Cassidey, Danhausen, Santino, and countless others have been utterly ridiculous, but they kept putting it on television and treating it like it was serious and all of them got over. I'm not saying Emma would have turned into a huge star, but they didn't give her a chance to get over. AEW has the luxury of a well-informed audience who has at least some familiarity with talents who are on the indies or in other promotions. This makes it so much easier to introduce new talents and get them over. From a movie or tv show perspective, you can forego the origin story and start with the sequel. WWE has a much different audience. Throwing someone out there to sink or swim in front of 10,000 fans who don't know who the person is is a recipe for failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_K Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, nate said: Well, he looked amused enough for the both of them, until she said something to him I'm sure. I'm personally convinced that Will Smith wasn't slapping Chris Rock, he was slapping August Alsina. It looked like he was laughing at the previous Bardem joke re him wanting Smith to win Oscar then didn’t quite get the Jada joke until he was off-screen (presumably saw her reaction). To be honest I didn’t understand the joke either until it was explained online: quite insidious & cowardly one. Edited March 28, 2022 by A_K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted March 28, 2022 Author Share Posted March 28, 2022 Fuck off, Ric Flair. 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Kinda makes sense that the guy who spent most of his career working in North Carolina is a big fan of the guy from Georgia who was likely a fan of his growing up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Natural said: Fuck off, Ric Flair. At least it's AJ Styles, I'd tell him to fuck off if it was Billy Gunn or Dolph Ziggler. AJ Styles is one of the best wrestlers of this generation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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