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So Cody left his old company, spent years touring US territories developing a new persona, and returned as a huge star on their biggest show of the year. I take it this means his excursion was a success?

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1 hour ago, ThatTCGuy said:

WWE signed a guy who made his name elsewhere, didn't try to change or diminish anything about him and he felt like a big star as a result. There's a lesson Vince and Pritchard could take from this that I doubt they will.

It's WWE, they are convinced that if it doesn't happen in their Universe,  it doesn't count. He's just making his Triumphant return after 6 years is the narrative. Especially after this Week of Wrestlemania crowds is over with. 

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Rollins and Becky are examples of guys dressing and acting elaborately as a poor substitute for actual charisma (unlike Austin).

 

Cody returning was a cool moment, though them burning through all of his finishers in his first match back was less so.

Rousey vs Charlotte wasn't awful, but it certainly wasn't good. And that finish - yeesh. Ronda gets beat with a run of the mill boot?

 

Main event was realistically as good as it could have been. Props to Owens for busting his ass and hell that suplex to the floor Austin took was a surprise too. God bless Owens for getting this moment and glad for Austin that he got this closure on his career that he's happy with.

 

 

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Lesnar/Reigns has never come close to recapturing the magic of WrestleMania XXXI (*****) in all their rematches and Brock Lesnar's Suplex City formula is stale as shit. For those reasons my expectations are very low.

Night 2 doesn't look as good as Night 1. Night 2 last year was bad compared to Night 1.

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It is a shame Sasha Banks is stuck in the multi-tag this time around. I really wanted her in one of the two women's championship matches which she'd win, her first at a WrestleMania. I'd save that for next year.

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I can’t believe the Sheamus and friend vs New Day match got cut because “Video Package” went over his time. I don’t watch WWE TV any more, so I’ve never seen him wrestle, but Video Package sounds like the most overpushed worker ever! Multiple segments over every show! What happened to the brand split?

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It had probably been mentioned but seriously over 77K attendance for Night 1.  ?? That is so much BS that Bix is going to stop talking about WM 3 attendance finally and deal with this shit.  They easily hit 60K which given that most had it projected at 50 was very impressive but come on.

Speaking of delusional apparently Rousey is pissed she isn't in a main event.  Maybe they told her that 2 months but yeah Steve Austin changes shit quick

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5 minutes ago, hammerva said:

It had probably been mentioned but seriously over 77K attendance for Night 1.  ?? That is so much BS that Bix is going to stop talking about WM 3 attendance finally and deal with this shit.  They easily hit 60K which given that most had it projected at 50 was very impressive but come on.

Speaking of delusional apparently Rousey is pissed she isn't in a main event.  Maybe they told her that 2 months but yeah Steve Austin changes shit quick

Steve Austin vs. Kevin Owens had to go on last. Nothing was topping one of the biggest stars in wrestling history first match back in 19 years. Crowd will have shit on Charlotte Flair vs. Ronda Rousey either through apathy (Triple H vs. Randy Orton at WrestleMania XXV, Triple H vs. Roman Reigns from WrestleMania XXXII) or both unlikable (Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg, WrestleMania XX).

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Haven't had a chance to read the reactions here yet but I will say that Cody was always meant to go back to WWE.  Much like Drew he had to step away to find himself and for better or worse this is the version that he was always aiming for.  He helped a ton with AEW but somewhere along the way it was obvious to me he was getting things right so he could head back to WWE.  I'm honestly happy for him as he managed to create his own destiny even if AEW was unfortunately a stepping stone for him.  My hope is with how they tend to micromanage things it'll help to rein in some of his dumber tendencies.

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Why did drew almost kill Andrew Battle Royal? If the bloke hadn’t moved, that sword could have done some real damage. 

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I haven't read through yet. Want to get my real thoughts out of my head without being influenced by other's thoughts. Boy did Night 1 over deliver for me. Was not expecting that.

Now there were some typical boring WWE stuff for me. Love The Usos, and an injury changed how that match could have played out. But that was some filler ass shit that didn't belong on Mania in the first place. Same with Corbin v Drew.

The Mysterios vs Logan & Miz was fucking solid man. I don't give a shit about any of these guys but Rey and even still they were able to draw me in and impress me. Very very good match. Also pleasantly surprised by the post match. Was totally logical and surprising at the same time. Have no interest in Logan Paul vs Miz next month. But well fucking done.

Becky v Belair was match of the night for me. They fucking went in. Very good match and real surprised that Bianca was able to keep going after that top rope front flip missile coppo kick. Super tight match with a fast pace and absolutely delivered.

Cody's debut was about perfect. Presentation was perfect t lest. Still hate all the AR graphics, and Cody's neck tattoo graphic is up there with the worst. The match was a little sloppy. And a little too forced epic. But you can't deny Cody & Seth have chemistry together. It took 4 Crossroads to beat Seth. On night one of Cody's return. Idk if that was a well thought out idea lol.

Charlotte vs Ronda was a little underwhelming. I wonder how much of it being off was due to the wardrobe issues. Like in that falsey with the figure 8 that they had to go real tight because a titty was out I was looking at the audience. And they were all mouth opened shocked that they were working a hold with a tit out instead of breaking the hold and fixing the wardrobe issue.

Austin vs Owens was fine. It was a feel good moment having Austin get one last match. The match it's self wasn't important. I wasn't a fan of the setup here with the talk show BS lasting so long. But you can't deny it was the right call to end Night 1 with this one. Wrestle mania 19 was 19 years ago. Fuck did that realization make me feel old tho.

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After catching up noticing that no one else mentioned the wardrobe issue. Does that make me a settle down whatever guy now? lol

The back of the top for Charlotte came undone. I guess that made it loose or whatever because multiple times she was exposed. Peacock even blacked out the screen because of it. When she arched up in the Figure 8 near the end she was exposed the whole time. The camera zoomed into Ronda as to not show it but I had noticed and was looking at the audience reactions and it was wild.

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I’m not a Rollins guy at all, but I think he deserves a lot of credit for how the Cody debut came off (specifically, the crowd being wildly pro-Cody). Going in, I thought there was at least some chance of the crowd splitting, but Rollins worked his ass off to be as obnoxious and uncool as possible in the build-up. You might not like Cody, but Rollins made sure you weren’t going to cheer for HIM.

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You can't do anything with Cody other than slot him in the main event scene at this point. Roman Reigns has NO ONE, literally no one, to face and and to challenge him right now. Cody Rhodes is the only guy legitimately who can challenge and unseat Rhodes right now. It has to be Cody.

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1 hour ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:

Cody's debut was about perfect. Presentation was perfect t lest. Still hate all the AR graphics, and Cody's neck tattoo graphic is up there with the worst. The match was a little sloppy. And a little too forced epic. But you can't deny Cody & Seth have chemistry together. It took 4 Crossroads to beat Seth. On night one of Cody's return. Idk if that was a well thought out idea lol.

Re: some sloppiness in the match, it was noticeable but not crippling. There's some stuff they did in the Shield days almost a decade ago that didn't work as clean because time has passed and both guys' bodies are different. That disaster kick on the outside into the barricade bomb didn't miss like that back in the day. And I knew they didn't stand a chance at that bridge attempt with Cody on the bottom late in the match. But good recoveries on both. 

Re: the four Crossrhodes, I'm just happy Rollins didn't kick out of three. The last while, Cody's trended towards overkill with finishers rather than risking a kickout. See: vs Ethan Page for the TNT title. 

Re: other sentiment in the thread about Cody being a better fit for WWE, remains silly to me that "stuff I don't like = WWE stuff, stuff I like = something else" is a binary classification. At the end of the day, WWE's capable of putting on a first-class presentation like that for anyone's favourite. I'm happy Cody got that treatment. I was worried they'd go with Smoke & Mirrors or something new and change things up. Thankfully, they didn't. This was perfect, down to him having a kid at ringside to hand the belt off to. As with Punk and Hardy on the other channel, there's power to bringing in a big star and straight lifting much of what they were doing elsewhere. 

Not sure if their modern TV set-up can accommodate the Codyvator, and I can't see them changing things that dramatically for Cody, but I was happy it was there for night one. 

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22 minutes ago, EVA said:

I’m not a Rollins guy at all, but I think he deserves a lot of credit for how the Cody debut came off (specifically, the crowd being wildly pro-Cody). Going in, I thought there was at least some chance of the crowd splitting, but Rollins worked his ass off to be as obnoxious and uncool as possible in the build-up. You might not like Cody, but Rollins made sure you weren’t going to cheer for HIM.

In the end, Rollins is a guy who the fans turned on and ultimately made peace with that. Cody otoh.......yeah not so much. 

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