RIPPA Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 It might have been mentioned elsewhere already but since it is directly related to this show Apparently the reason for the angle with Lashley is that Lashley suffered a shoulder injury and is having the dreaded visit with Dr. James Andrews this week. (Reports are that he injured the shoulder at Royal Rumble) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_K Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Hogan was also booked that way in WWF for maybe .. 10 years tops? Brock is going on 20 years now with this presentation. Its certainly .. something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedbynumbers Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Hogan didn't eliminate 15+ people in a rumble. He took a few pinfalls but for the most part wasn't considered a part timer either. You can't fault Brock. Anyone would take that deal. All that money for such little work. And he seems to be having fun now too. Vince has his favorites and he rams them down our throats for years at a time. Say what you want about HBK and his attitude but he really only had 2 years at the top in the mid 90's. Bret had about 4-5 years at the top in WWF. Diesel/Nash 2 or so. Roman has had roughly 7 yrs, Brock has had 6 or so recently Hogan had the 85-88 run, and then the 89-92 era. Even when Warrior was champ Hogan was getting top billing minus Summer Slam 90. It's a pattern for the most part. But with Hogan you had other stars being elevated and made. You had your Savages, Dibiases, Rude's, Perfect, Bossman, Jake, Model, you had a hell of a tag team division. At some point Vince said 'fuck tag teams" "fuck making new stars" and that is where we are today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Didn’t watch, won’t watch, but the clip I saw of Brock murdering Theory had me zooted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 53 minutes ago, RIPPA said: It might have been mentioned elsewhere already but since it is directly related to this show Apparently the reason for the angle with Lashley is that Lashley suffered a shoulder injury and is having the dreaded visit with Dr. James Andrews this week. (Reports are that he injured the shoulder at Royal Rumble) Probably from the way Bobby Lashley landed on his shoulder during the tedious Suplex City shit at the Royal Rumble. Shame he's injured as he's one of the few WWE bright spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Roman has held the belt for close to 600 days. All to put over.... Lesnar? No way... Please no lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 I wonder what the small children demo is like for them now. If someone was a zygote when Brock first came back to WWE then all of this is probably pretty fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Niners Fan in CT said: Roman has held the belt for close to 600 days. All to put over.... Lesnar? No way... Please no lol Roman winning and Cody get an over the top, tone-deaf, patriotic Lex Express style push towards Summerslam is what we all want right? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Only if they bring in Lex to be hid manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Matt D said: Roman winning and Cody get an over the top, tone-deaf, patriotic Lex Express style push towards Summerslam is what we all want right? Cody reforms Legacy and they do yet ANOTHER Four Horsemen wannabe act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, paintedbynumbers said: Hulk Hogan himself wasn't even booked as dominant as Brock. Hell with Hogan at least you thought he had a shot of losing. Very true. As much as people bitched about the Hulk-up, at least you were allowed to get heat on Hogan. He even used to lose house show matches by DQ sometimes to keep a program interesting. Now Brock wasn't always booked like this. Even at the beginning of his comeback. It was that damn SummerSlam match that birthed "Suplex City" where he squashed Cena. The fans went crazy because it was something new at the time, and they were tired of "LOL Cena wins". And Vince basically said right then and there, "This is how we book a standard Lesnar match from now on." Edited February 20, 2022 by The Comedian redundancy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: Cody reforms Legacy and they do yet ANOTHER Four Horsemen wannabe act. The fourth member is really going to bum TK out. Spoiler 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: Cody reforms Legacy and they do yet ANOTHER Four Horsemen wannabe act. With all the 2nd and 3rd gen guys, you could have an nwo-level number of people in the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 2 hours ago, A_K said: Hogan was also booked that way in WWF for maybe .. 10 years tops? Brock is going on 20 years now with this presentation. Its certainly .. something. It's really only about 6 in his current form (which is still way too long). In Brock's first run, he was presented as a monster, but still occasionally vulnerable. It's why his matches with Benoit, Rey, and Eddie all worked. His insecure heel run in 2003-04 was the best stretch of his career. Most importantly, back then he actually wrestled instead of just doing the same 3 spots every match. His second run, he was much more protected, but still worked a unique enough style and showed enough vulnerability to top guys that he was a bright spot through the first Roman match. Since the Taker program, though, yeah... Nothing inspiring or must-see about him and nobody has come out of a feud looking better, even if they got a win over him. The only interesting moment was him losing to Goldberg in under 2 minutes, and well, that only put over Goldberg in like 2017 or 18 (?) so that wasn't terribly useful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 I have to push back slightly on the Brock and Hogan comparison. Hogan would take some Beatdowns for sure and there were a few instances of controversy surrounding his title reigns but he also gave us a ton of bullshit. Completely no selling a dude's finisher and going straight into the Hulk Up. Etc. Brock doesn't typically no sell, he's a fantastic bumper actually. Also, Brock has taken several clean pin falls for whoever the flavor of the month was. He took a clean pin to old ass Goldberg 5 years ago. He took a clean pin to Seth Freakin Rollins at the WM I was at WM35 in New York.. The problem is Goldberg is old, there was nowhere to go with the story. The problem is Seth Rollins for as popular as he's become is still in many ways a cut below a true main eventer despite the constant push. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Most tolerable Seth Rollins was Shield Seth by far. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedbynumbers Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 2 hours ago, The Comedian said: Very true. As much as people bitched about the Hulk-up, at least you were allowed to get heat on Hogan. He even used to lose house show matches by DQ sometimes to keep a program interesting. Now Brock wasn't always booked like this. Even at the beginning of his comeback. It was that damn SummerSlam match that birthed "Suplex City" where he squashed Cena. The fans went crazy because it was something new at the time, and they were tired of "LOL Cena wins". And Vince basically said right then and there, "This is how we book a standard Lesnar match from now on." The thing about Hogan was he was smart to the business. Say what you want about the guy but he knew how to make money. If he lost a house show match by DQ or countout he knew that meant more heat for the return to that town. He knew people would pay to see him get the pin on Dibiase, Savage, Slaughter, etc. It worked. Vince had the Network pre covid. He could have aired house shows on there so that everyone could watch. Build new stars/try new things. They failed at doing the simplest of things. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 This is stupid on so many levels that I can only quote John Zandig: Jesus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Matt D said: Roman winning and Cody get an over the top, tone-deaf, patriotic Lex Express style push towards Summerslam is what we all want right? I sense you're joking, but my response to this is an unironic "yes." Sorry... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuntmanCrowley Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 I'll be honest, Cody being the one to finally beat Roman would make me genuinely happy as hell and excited to watch WWE. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 7 hours ago, StuntmanCrowley said: I'll be honest, Cody being the one to finally beat Roman would make me genuinely happy as hell and excited to watch WWE. You'll get Cody as 1 of 7 entrants in the Wrestlemania TLC Intercontinental Championship match and like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 On 2/19/2022 at 1:45 PM, Eivion said: I feel like that is a distinction most don't make and kind of comes across as cheap in this case. Some people feel that the World Heavyweight Championship was a the secondary title. and not the face of the company although I would disagree with this as it always felt to me that HHH was holding the top belt during his reign of terror compared to JBL holding the WWE title is a similar timeframe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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