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6 hours ago, Death From Above said:

Such a shame they let Peter Avalon go because The American Nightmare Peter Avalon would instantly be the best thing on TV.

Then Cody comes back and we have a Taker vs. Taker-like build?

Fuch yaeh

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1 hour ago, RIPPA said:

Okay - that WON report that talked about the vignettes was from an SI.com report

And the most interesting thing from that was

Also Brandi will not be signing with WWE (at least not right away)

This is something I don't buy just like I don't buy "No one liked BrandI" from Wade Keller. But if it is true, that's pretty dumb and petty on Cody's part. Dusty Rhodes had just as many booking clunkers as he had winners. 

Second of all, you can be the top wrestling star or the head booker. IMO you can't be both. But like if Cody really let this idea of him no being booker like his dad get into his head, that's some really dumb nonsense. 

 

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The news that Cody quit because TK wouldn’t give him the book, because he desperately needed the book to live up to some bullshit he put on himself because of Dusty, is equal parts sad and fascinating.  Contrasting both Rhodes boys, how they grew up (one with Dusty, and one without) and how that affected them and who they are today is interesting to consider.

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6 hours ago, John from Cincinnati said:

He'd never agree to it, but the other solution: Total Bryan. 

Bryan dating and marrying a hard partying woman and then giving her shit for being hung over was often my favorite part of Total Divas.

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1 hour ago, Technico Support said:

The news that Cody quit because TK wouldn’t give him the book, because he desperately needed the book to live up to some bullshit he put on himself because of Dusty, is equal parts sad and fascinating.  Contrasting both Rhodes boys, how they grew up (one with Dusty, and one without) and how that affected them and who they are today is interesting to consider.

If Crockett would've had the good sense of TK and made the much needed call to cut Dusty loose we may never have needed this Elitist promotion.  

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I love the take that Vince has to book Cody well as a sign to future AEW free agents. Like bitch yeah right. Lol. This fucker has zero patience or willingness to see anything through. MJF is signed for another two years iirc. You think Vince isn't gonna fuck around with Cody before that? He will be another guy by May. If you're making the jump from aew to wwe at this point it is for the money. 

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23 minutes ago, Jiji said:

I love the take that Vince has to book Cody well as a sign to future AEW free agents. Like bitch yeah right. Lol. This fucker has zero patience or willingness to see anything through. MJF is signed for another two years iirc. You think Vince isn't gonna fuck around with Cody before that? He will be another guy by May. If you're making the jump from aew to wwe at this point it is for the money. 

Yep.

This is a straight up mean thing to say, and I legitimately hope Cody gets paid well and used well if he jumps to WWE, but...

There is definitely an element of this that feels like somebody getting back together with a life partner who was unkind or neglectful in the past (but promises that they have changed and things will be different this time), in order to spite the perfectly nice new life partner who didn't buy you all the expensive baubles you'd asked for. 

It's unlikely to end well, and there are likely to be some regrets, is what I'm trying to say.

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6 hours ago, RIPPA said:

Okay - that WON report that talked about the vignettes was from an SI.com report

 

This is interesting. At what point did Cody stop booking his own segments? We often slam the performers of bad segments (Brandi) because the lack of writers, but I feel TK doesn’t get the same criticism as Head of Creative. I’d be shocked if the awkward Brandi/ Lambert and other Rhodes family missteps weren’t approved by Tony. 
If Cody was more hands on in his early AEW angles, that’s when he was at his best. Cody vs Dustin, Cody vs the Inner Circle, Cody vs MJF, the TNT title open challenge. 

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I mean we could also look at it like the territory days when guys would travel from one to another when it was time to freshen the card up. AEW has a loaded roster and many folks have said Cody felt lost in the shuffle. So let him go to another territory, get over and get paid. Maybe he'll make some money there, and if he signs a short term deal he can be back at a time where he'll fit in.

I think a lot of folks want to spin this as something really dramatic, but if Cody believes he's the "Forbidden Door Builder" and Tony says it's always open, then they may both be looking at this as a chance to put their money where their mouth is. Now it's not just about being disgruntled with WWE and showing up on AEW TV. Or being on an indy/Japanese company and doing a guest spot on Rampage. It really means freedom to go leave and work for Vince, and maybe come back again without awkward petty bullshit.  Wanna go make money? Go. The door is open BOTH ways.

You guys, Cody really is changing the game. He's beyond borders. He's The Meta Nightmare now. He's like the Lawnmower Man of Wrestling.

Or..... it's all just booboo face lemme book some shit on TV for Punk money. You pick which reality you want to live in.

I know where I'll be.

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Wooooooaaahhh YOU'RE ONLY SMOKE AND MIRRORS

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1 hour ago, Octopus said:

This is interesting. At what point did Cody stop booking his own segments? We often slam the performers of bad segments (Brandi) because the lack of writers, but I feel TK doesn’t get the same criticism as Head of Creative. I’d be shocked if the awkward Brandi/ Lambert and other Rhodes family missteps weren’t approved by Tony. 
If Cody was more hands on in his early AEW angles, that’s when he was at his best. Cody vs Dustin, Cody vs the Inner Circle, Cody vs MJF, the TNT title open challenge. 

having a lot of ambiguity about what you actually do is a good move for a Head of Creative.

"Hey, I don't micromanage and I listen to ideas!"

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Meltzer spent another 20 minutes at the start of the radio show answering questions because his (and by proxy my) life is hell

Dave and Bryan both confirm they have spoken with Cody. Dave says that besides the statements that both TK and Cody released - those will be the only public statements either makes on the matter

Someone asked "which was more of a factor? Money or Booking Power" Dave said he couldn't give a specific answer to that but did say that "Money will always be factor with Cody". Alvarez did chime in with the point that many here have made in that, if Cody is looking to regain booking power, he isn't gonna get it in the WWE. Later Dave says it really is only the top top WWE people (Brock, Roman, Ronda) who have sway over booking. There are a few at a slightly lower level (say like Randy Orton) who have a little. (This is when Dave went off on a tangent about Brock on Pat McAfee's show which included randomly slandering Orton which I was totally here for.)

Another question asked was Cody about to announce running for the 2022 Senate seat in Georgia. Dave said he has heard nothing "no hints" about that. (In regards to 2022 - not Cody eventually running for office)

Per Dave - it is plausible that Cody could use his theme song in WWE (assuming AEW doesn't own it)

They waste time over an email where someone claimed that "he has friends who said they won't watch AEW anymore" because Cody left. Dave and Bryan both think the email is fake. I clearly hate my life

I know some of you already disagree with this but Dave and Bryan again push that Cody in the WWE "can't be a failure" if they have any hope of signing future AEW guys (again MJF is the one specific name mentioned). Dave "If you are interested in the long game, the most obvious thing is to push Cody to the moon and make him a superstar" (Side note - in mid sentence Dave just blurts out "If you are Darby Allin - you should never go"). 

The last thing on the subject is that it is possible that Cody will affect AEW and WarnerMedia's relationship. Dave was very all about "to the network - Cody Rhodes was the biggest star". That being said - Meltzer says the obvious "if the ratings stay high, everything will be fine"

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Whoever pointed out that they won’t bury Cody on purpose but just as a consequence of how they book 98% of the roster was spot on. Unless he gets a schedule where he only has to wrestle about as much as he does in AEW, I don’t see how he isn’t exchanging roll up pin victories with the same five wrestlers by the end of the year. 

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7 minutes ago, RIPPA said:

The last thing on the subject is that it is possible that Cody will affect AEW and WarnerMedia's relationship. Dave was very all about "to the network - Cody Rhodes was the biggest star". That being said - Meltzer says the obvious "if the ratings stay high, everything will be fine"

The idea TBS might panic if the ratings dip and they think it's because Cody left is deceptively horrifying.

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Time to bring up another topic. This weird rehabilitation of Dusty as a booking genius that Cody yearns to follow is some some interesting historical spin. I mean, Dusty did great stuff developing the early NXT kids and he certainly had Hall of Fame level runs as a booker for short periods but didn't he also help destroy JCP and run territories into the ground and was also on and off the WCW booking committee during its many years of darkness? Not to slander the great name of the American Dream but it seemed that before his death he was more widely mocked as a booker than anything else. I mean, one of the most territory destroying finishes is named after him. 

For some of the grey beards here, what do y'all think? 

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