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5 hours ago, hobo joe said:

Word. Must've blocked that out. I wonder who the greenest worker on national TV would be if we exclude second generation talent.

There's THAT Jackie Gayda match, also most of the Diva search gals. Brakus comes to mind on the mens side

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With all the names you're throwing out I'm starting to think I was a little too hard on young Brock. He seemed lost in that first match and was mechanically going from spot to spot, but fuck, he didn't botch anything, nor was he even out of position. He did fine. Brock Anderson is fine everyone, and he's gotten better. He's a good kid.

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55 minutes ago, hobo joe said:

With all the names you're throwing out I'm starting to think I was a little too hard on young Brock. He seemed lost in that first match and was mechanically going from spot to spot, but fuck, he didn't botch anything, nor was he even out of position. He did fine. Brock Anderson is fine everyone, and he's gotten better. He's a good kid.

Blink twice if Arn is currently pointing a gun at your head making you type this.

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I always talk about that list TK has to have in his head of people to sign if they're available. Claudio is right at the top of it. 

At this point it's him, Island Joseph, Richard O'Shay, and Nikki Cross.

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Remember in 2014 when Cesaro won the Andre Battle Royal as part of WM 30 and it felt like we were getting a company that would be focusing on a new vanguard of stars?

Legit feels like more than eight years ago. Reigns is the only newer talent from that show that they've capitalized on, and I think capitalized is a stretch considering that he's sub-Nash as a draw or pop culture media presence. 

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2 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said:

Why would he fight the soon-to-be consigliere of Bryan's Grapple Boys Inc.?

Match first, then handshake, consigliereation after. Sorted. 

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1 minute ago, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said:

Remember in 2014 when Cesaro won the Andre Battle Royal as part of WM 30 and it felt like we were getting a company that would be focusing on a new vanguard of stars?

Like I said when I rewatched that, that Andre BR looked like it was supposed to be Sheamus winning but a botch with him and Del Rio accidentally eliminating each other caused Big Show to improv the finish with Cesaro going over.

 

I'm really surprised he lasted this long, especially since he was the infamous "brass ring" comment recipient.

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Just now, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said:

Reigns is the only newer talent from that show that they've capitalized on, and I think capitalized is a stretch considering that he's sub-Nash as a draw or pop culture media presence. 

I think that's a bit off the mark. Reigns is "the man" in the most profitable era in WWE history. And was also in a Fast & Furious movie with The Rock.

Nash was "the man" during the lowest money drawing era in the history of WWE. He was not in a Fast & Furious movie with The Rock.

While Nash was part of the nWo during the hottest period of the business, he was never really a pop culture guy at all. What media presence did Nash have? Regis & Kathy, just like every other WWE champion? I think Reigns has surpassed that. He does a lot of media and make a wish stuff. Definitely not Cena / Austin / Hogan / Rock pop culture level. But definitely bigger in pop culture than Bret Hart / Shawn Michaels / Kevin Nash. Those are big deals in the wrestling bubble. But hardly any pop culture presence at all.

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10 minutes ago, just drew said:

I always talk about that list TK has to have in his head of people to sign if they're available. Claudio is right at the top of it. 

At this point it's him, Island Joseph, Richard O'Shay, and Nikki Cross.

One of these things is not like the other.

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Just now, NoFistsJustFlips said:

I think that's a bit off the mark. Reigns is "the man" in the most profitable era in WWE history. And was also in a Fast & Furious movie with The Rock.

Nash was "the man" during the lowest money drawing era in the history of WWE. He was not in a Fast & Furious movie with The Rock.

While Nash was part of the nWo during the hottest period of the business, he was never really a pop culture guy at all. What media presence did Nash have? Regis & Kathy, just like every other WWE champion? I think Reigns has surpassed that. He does a lot of media and make a wish stuff. Definitely not Cena / Austin / Hogan / Rock pop culture level. But definitely bigger in pop culture than Bret Hart / Shawn Michaels / Kevin Nash. Those are big deals in the wrestling bubble. But hardly any pop culture presence at all.

Hard disagree. Reigns is almost totally disconnected from profitability. The KSA isn't bringing WWE over in a big-money deal for Reigns. They're bringing the WWE over in a big-money deal for...uh...Yokozuna. And, um...The Ultimate Warrior.

Nash, as a formative part of the nWo, should get more credit (though his popularity is diluted since he was part of a group). I don't get the sense that Reigns is well known from non-watchers, so I don't see how you'd place him anywhere but on that Hart/Michaels/Nash line, though I think it's hard to put him over Hart or Nash. 

Look at it from this angle: WWE's got more media reach and media connections than ever before, including the Rock 'n Wrestling Era, and Reigns is arguably not as popular as Bret Hart. 

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