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We are months away from the draft and weeks away from knowing the full order but I am starting the thread because there is draft related news

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32998827/nfl-teams-lose-draft-pick-face-fines-unprofessional-conduct-draft-prospect-interviews

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The NFL has issued a warning to teams that they could lose a draft pick and face significant fines if club representatives conduct themselves unprofessionally in interviews with draft prospects.

In a memo obtained by ESPN that was sent to clubs Wednesday, the league said a team would forfeit a draft pick between the first and fourth rounds and be fined a minimum of $150,000 if it's determined a club representative displayed conduct that is "disrespectful, inappropriate, or unprofessional" during an interview. Fines and/or suspensions of individual club employees also could be imposed, according to the memo.

Basically teams can't keep asking players about their sexuality or if their mother is a prostitute

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Also in that story - the NFL made changes to the combine

They have finally eliminated the Wonderlic and tweaked drills to be more benefiting of a players position

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The league also plans to eliminate the Wonderlic test for prospective players, and it is revising some of its scouting combine drills to better simulate game-related movement. Wide receivers and tight ends will run crossing routes instead of wheel routes, and running backs will run option routes instead of corner and post-corner routes.

Some drills for offensive linemen and defensive players also were revised to better assess in-game player movements.

 

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A recap of some of the things that have happened over the years

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Over the past several years, there have been occasional reports of inappropriate questions being asked of draft prospects.

In 2010, then-Miami Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland apologized to Dallas Cowboys first-round draft pick Dez Bryant for asking during a pre-draft visit whether his mother was a prostitute.

In 2016, then-Atlanta Falcons coach Dan Quinn apologized to Eli Apple because one of his coaches asked the cornerback his sexual preference.

In 2018, former LSU running back Derrius Guice said one team at the combine asked about his sexuality and another inquired if his mother was a prostitute.

Former NFL tight end Benjamin Watson, who played 16 seasons between 2004 and 2020, compared the interview process to an interrogation.

"I can remember sitting in a dark room with a huge spotlight," Watson told the AP last year. "There's a seat there like you're being interrogated for a crime and all the front-office staff is in the back in the shadows and you can't see them. The guy grabbed my wrist and he's like: 'I can feel your pulse, so I know if you're lying to me. Have you ever smoked marijuana?' I said: 'No.' I really hadn't. I've never smoked. He said: 'I think you're lying. I can feel your pulse. Are you lying to us?' I said: 'No, I'm not.'

"So for a minute, I thought I actually did smoke marijuana, and maybe I need to confess to a crime that I didn't commit. But these sorts of tactics that are happening at the combine and that are not being monitored definitely need to be done away with."

 

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Unsurprisingly, Michigan's pass rushers both have declared for the draft. Hutchinson was a senior but could have called 2020 a redshirt season but why would he?

Ojabo was a junior, but he's projected as a first or at worst high second round pick, as risking either injury or just a down year when he doesn't have Hutchinson taking so much of the attention of the blocking scheme seems much bigger than the odds he could improve his stock much.

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On 1/5/2022 at 9:47 PM, Brian Fowler said:

Unsurprisingly, Michigan's pass rushers both have declared for the draft. Hutchinson was a senior but could have called 2020 a redshirt season but why would he?

Ojabo was a junior, but he's projected as a first or at worst high second round pick, as risking either injury or just a down year when he doesn't have Hutchinson taking so much of the attention of the blocking scheme seems much bigger than the odds he could improve his stock much.

Yeah, that's about as no-brainer as the decisions come.  

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Here's how everything stacks up, with record and strength of schedule tiebreaker.

  1. Jacksonville Jaguars (3-14, .512)
  2. Detroit Lions (3-13-1, .528)
  3. Houston Texans (4-13, .498)
  4. New York Jets (4-13, .512)
  5. New York Giants (4-13, .536)
  6. Carolina Panthers (5-12, .509)
  7. New York Giants (from Chicago Bears, 6-11, .524)
  8. Atlanta Falcons (7-10, .472)
  9. Seattle Seahawks (from Denver Broncos, 7-10, .484)
  10. New York Jets (from Seattle Seahawks, 7-10, .519)
  11. Washington Commanders (7-10, .529)
  12. Minnesota Vikings (8-9, .507)
  13. Houston Texans (from Cleveland Browns, 8-9, .514)
  14. Baltimore Ravens (8-9, .531)
  15. Philadelphia Eagles (from Miami Dolphins, 9-8, .464)
  16. New Orleans Saints (from Indianapolis Colts, 9-8, .495, through the Philadelphia Eagles)
  17. Los Angeles Chargers (9-8, .510)
  18. Philadelphia Eagles (from New Orleans Saints, 9-8, .512)
  19. New Orleans Saints (from Philadelphia Eagles, 9-8, .469)
  20. Pittsburgh Steelers (9-7-1, .521)
  21. New England Patriots (10-7, .481)
  22. Green Bay Packers (from Las Vegas Raiders, 10-7, .510)
  23. Arizona Cardinals (11-6, .490)
  24. Dallas Cowboys (12-5, .488)
  25. Buffalo Bills (11-6, .472)
  26. Tennessee Titans (12-5, .472)
  27. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (13-4, .467)
  28. Green Bay Packers (13-4, .479)
  29. Kansas City Chiefs (from San Francisco 49ers, 10-7, .500, through the Miami Dolphins)
  30. Kansas City Chiefs (12-5, .538)
  31. Cincinnati Bengals (10-7, .472)
  32. Detroit Lions (from Los Angeles Rams, 12-5, .483)

Teams that have traded their first-round picks:

  • Chicago Bears (sent to New York Giants in last year's draft)
  • Seattle Seahawks (sent to New York Jets in Jamal Adams trade)
  • Miami Dolphins (sent to Philadelphia Eagles in last year's draft)
  • Indianapolis Colts (sent to Philadelphia Eagles in Carson Wentz trade)
  • San Francisco 49ers (sent to Miami Dolphins in last year's draft) (pick subsequently traded to Kansas City Chiefs in Tyreek Hill trade)
  • Los Angeles Rams (sent to Detroit Lions in Stafford/Goff trade)
  • Denver Broncos (sent to Seattle Seahawks in Russell Wilson trade)
  • Las Vegas Raiders (sent to Green Bay in Davante Adams trade)
  • Cleveland Browns (sent to Houston in DeShaun Watson trade)

Teams with no first-round pick:

  • Chicago Bears
  • Indianapolis Colts
  • San Francisco 49ers
  • Los Angeles Rams
  • Denver Broncos
  • Las Vegas Raiders
  • Cleveland Browns
  • Miami Dolphins

Teams with multiple first-round picks:

  • Philadelphia Eagles (2)
  • Detroit Lions (2)
  • Green Bay Packers (2)
  • Houston Texans (2)
  • Kansas City Chiefs (2)
  • New Orleans Saints (2)
  • New York Giants (2)
  • New York Jets (2)

Day 2 draft picks that have been traded:

Round 2

  • Carolina Panthers --> New York Jets (Sam Darnold trade)
  • Denver Broncos --> Seattle Seahawks (Russell Wilson trade)
  • Washington Commanders --> Indianapolis Colts (Carson Wentz trade)
  • Indianapolis Colts --> Washington Commanders (Carson Wentz trade)
  • Los Angeles Chargers --> Chicago Bears (Khalil Mack trade)
  • Las Vegas Raiders --> Green Bay Packers (Davante Adams trade)
  • Tennessee Titans --> Atlanta Falcons (Julio Jones trade)
  • Los Angeles Rams --> Denver Broncos (Von Miller trade)
  • Miami Dolphins --> Kansas City Chiefs (Tyreek Hill trade)

Round 3

  • Carolina Panthers --> Jacksonville Jaguars (C.J. Henderson trade)
  • Washington Commanders --> Indianapolis Colts (Carson Wentz trade)
  • New Orleans Saints --> Houston Texans (Bradley Roby trade)
  • Miami Dolphins --> New York Giants (2021 draft weekend trade)
  • Los Angeles Rams --> Denver Broncos (Von Miller trade)
  • Indianapolis Colts --> Atlanta Falcons (Matt Ryan trade)
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If they don't win their playoff game - the Eagles pick 19th, so they have the potential to pick 3 times within 5 picks which I don't think has ever happened (of course it probably has)

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13 hours ago, RIPPA said:

If they don't win their playoff game - the Eagles pick 19th, so they have the potential to pick 3 times within 5 picks which I don't think has ever happened (of course it probably has)

Jets came close in 2000 (the year they managed to get four first rounders). They picked at 12, 13, and 18 (and then again at 27).

The Vikings had picks at 23, 25, and 29 back in 2013, too.

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The picks have been updated through the Wild Card round. All those picks have been determined thus far except #23, which will go to the loser of tonight's playoff game (and, in the case of the Rams, which pick they'll be giving to Detroit).

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Kiper's first mock is up (behind a paywall).  Spoilered for size:

Spoiler

1 JAX - Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan

2 DET - Kayvon Thibodeaux, DE, Oregon

3 HOU - Evan Neal, OT, Alabama

4 NYJ - Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame

5 NYG - Ikem Ekwonu, OT, NC State

6 CAR - Charles Cross, OT, Mississippi State

7 NYG (via CHI) - David Ojabo, OLB, Michigan

8 ATL - Derek Stingley Jr., CB, LSU

9 DEN - Nakobe Dean, ILB, Georgia

10 NYJ (via SEA) - Drake London, WR, USC

11 WAS - Malik Willis, QB, Liberty

12 MIN - Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner, CB, Cincinnati

13 CLE - Garrett Wilson, WR, Ohio State

14 BAL - Tyler Linderbaum, C, Iowa

15 PHI (via MIA) - Devin Lloyd, ILB, Utah

16 PHI (via IND) - Arnold Ebiketie, DE, Penn State

17 LAC - Jordan Davis, DT, Georgia

18 NO - Kenny Pickett, QB, Pitt

19 PHI - Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State

20 PIT - Matt Corral, QB, Ole Miss

21 NE - Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama

22 LV - Andrew Booth Jr., CB, Clemson

23 ARI - George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue

24 DAL - Travon Walker, DE, Georgia

25 CIN - Trevor Penning, OT, Northern Iowa

26 MIA (via SF) - Jahan Dotson, WR, Penn State

27 BUF - Trent McDuffie, CB, Washington

28 DET (via LAR) - Sam Howell, QB, North Carolina

29 KC - Cameron Thomas, DE, San Diego State

30 TB - DeMarvin Leal, DL, Texas A&M

31 TEN - Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington

32 GB - Trey McBride, TE, Colorado State

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33 minutes ago, Dolfan in NYC said:

Kiper's first mock is up (behind a paywall).  Spoilered for size:

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1 JAX - Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan

2 DET - Kayvon Thibodeaux, DE, Oregon

3 HOU - Evan Neal, OT, Alabama

4 NYJ - Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame

5 NYG - Ikem Ekwonu, OT, NC State

6 CAR - Charles Cross, OT, Mississippi State

7 NYG (via CHI) - David Ojabo, OLB, Michigan

8 ATL - Derek Stingley Jr., CB, LSU

9 DEN - Nakobe Dean, ILB, Georgia

10 NYJ (via SEA) - Drake London, WR, USC

11 WAS - Malik Willis, QB, Liberty

12 MIN - Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner, CB, Cincinnati

13 CLE - Garrett Wilson, WR, Ohio State

14 BAL - Tyler Linderbaum, C, Iowa

15 PHI (via MIA) - Devin Lloyd, ILB, Utah

16 PHI (via IND) - Arnold Ebiketie, DE, Penn State

17 LAC - Jordan Davis, DT, Georgia

18 NO - Kenny Pickett, QB, Pitt

19 PHI - Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State

20 PIT - Matt Corral, QB, Ole Miss

21 NE - Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama

22 LV - Andrew Booth Jr., CB, Clemson

23 ARI - George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue

24 DAL - Travon Walker, DE, Georgia

25 CIN - Trevor Penning, OT, Northern Iowa

26 MIA (via SF) - Jahan Dotson, WR, Penn State

27 BUF - Trent McDuffie, CB, Washington

28 DET (via LAR) - Sam Howell, QB, North Carolina

29 KC - Cameron Thomas, DE, San Diego State

30 TB - DeMarvin Leal, DL, Texas A&M

31 TEN - Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington

32 GB - Trey McBride, TE, Colorado State

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Wonder if the Steelers would try and trade up a spot or two to get Pickett?

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You'd have to go back to 2013 for the last time a QB wasn't drafted in the first ten picks (Manuel to Buffalo at 16... it didn't work out). 2013 actively sucked for QBs, not a single one that made it in the league as a starter past a few years. Although a handful hung around as backups (Mike Glennon!). Wonder if 2022 will be the same. Teams are so QB happy I just can't see a team in the Top 10 resisting.

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10 hours ago, Kevin Wilson said:

You'd have to go back to 2013 for the last time a QB wasn't drafted in the first ten picks (Manuel to Buffalo at 16... it didn't work out). 2013 actively sucked for QBs, not a single one that made it in the league as a starter past a few years. Although a handful hung around as backups (Mike Glennon!). Wonder if 2022 will be the same. Teams are so QB happy I just can't see a team in the Top 10 resisting.

Especially if you get to like pick 8 or 9 and no one has taken one yet - then a team is clearly thinking they could jump up and have the pick of (questionable) litter

 

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12 hours ago, Kevin Wilson said:

You'd have to go back to 2013 for the last time a QB wasn't drafted in the first ten picks (Manuel to Buffalo at 16... it didn't work out). 2013 actively sucked for QBs, not a single one that made it in the league as a starter past a few years. Although a handful hung around as backups (Mike Glennon!). Wonder if 2022 will be the same. Teams are so QB happy I just can't see a team in the Top 10 resisting.

I was at a sports bar/wing joint for a live draft event and there was a collective "WTF" followed by laughter after that pick. NO ONE was defending it, and the few Bills fans were depressed. I was worried about the tables.

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1 hour ago, Brian Fowler said:

Somebody is going to talk themselves into Pickett or Corral in the top ten. Whether one of the teams that have a pick one somebody who trades up. Rookie scale QBs are just too valuable.

Of the final 8 teams in the playoffs, you have Burrow on the rookie scale, Allen and Mahomes who both already got huge contract extensions, and then 5 veterans. For the full playoffs, you add Mac Jones, Kyler Murray, and Jalen Hurts on the rookie scale.

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