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1 minute ago, Kevin Wilson said:

Credit to the Raiders for going for the win but man I would have just let the game end.

I’m not sure I would.  Raiders run out the clock and that’s the story in the press all week.  I think I’d go for the decisive win if I trust my team.  Ends the distractions and makes a statement to my players about how much faith I have in them.

Then again….

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5 minutes ago, Kevin Wilson said:

Credit to the Raiders for going for the win but man I would have just let the game end.

well, they were on the edge of FG range so they couldn't plausibly just sit on it without at least trying for the winning score.

If they'd been stuck deep in their own end with time almost up (like that SEA @ SF monday night game a couple years ago) then making sure you don't lose and thus miss the playoffs would absolutely become the "winning" strategy.

I appreciate Collinsworth trying to craft the narrative that the Charger timeout was interpreted as a double cross but I'm pretty sure if they didn't use one the Raiders would have.

Our best hope for a tie was Carlson finally missing one at home

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The time-out storyline from Collinsworth was bogus, they called it because the Raiders came out in a passing formation and they probably wanted to change their defensive package. They still knew that stopping the Raiders from getting the first down was critical either way, it had nothing to do with 'gamesmanship' or whatever else.

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If the Raiders don't get that final first down, I don't think they try the long field goal, and let the clock run out.

Ben has to go get the crap beat out of him one more time next week. Good for him, I guess, but they aren't winning that game unless Mahomes goes on COVID reserve and can't play.

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now, the Chargers would have been the 6 seed with either a win OR a tie, so maybe they might have been a tad more conservative were roles reversed.

The Raiders went from 7 (and getting their shit kicked in by KC again) on a tie to 5 with a win, so it did actually make a difference to them.

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6 minutes ago, Dewar said:

If the Raiders don't get that final first down, I don't think they try the long field goal, and let the clock run out.

Ben has to go get the crap beat out of him one more time next week. Good for him, I guess, but they aren't winning that game unless Mahomes goes on COVID reserve and can't play.

Yeah, I doubt the Raiders wouldn’t have attempted any kick further than 50 yards. 
 

Al and Chris really dropped the ball in not talking about the seeding with a Vegas win compared to a tie game, that was a big factor in why the Raiders did what they did. 

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3 minutes ago, Mister TV said:

Yeah, I doubt the Raiders wouldn’t have attempted any kick further than 50 yards. 
 

Al and Chris really dropped the ball in not talking about the seeding with a Vegas win compared to a tie game, that was a big factor in why the Raiders did what they did. 

it's weird because they did keep showing the graphics that illustrated the seeding difference, but never remarked on the significance of it (i.e. definitely getting blasted by the Chiefs again vs only probably getting blasted the Bengals again)

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15 minutes ago, Mister TV said:

Could this be the reason the Raiders went for the win! Apparently people bet on a tie with the thinking/hope both teams would take a knee for 70 minutes.

https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/33033082/sportsbooks-avoid-historic-loss-los-angeles-chargers-las-vegas-raiders-narrowly-dodge-tie-finale

We were talking about this in the office this morning.  Both coaches should've just said, "Yeah, let's end this thing in a tie so we can both get to the playoffs."  I'd have hated it, but it would've made logical sense.

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