Cobra Commander Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Walter's new gimmick is that he will refer to himself with a new Austrian first name every week before he officially becomes Viele Namen ("Many Names" in German) (checks the internet to make sure no Nazis were named Viele Namen) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 WWE does not plan to grant Ali's release. Ali hasn't been on TV since Nov, and Nick Khan or Ace could cut him later and slap on the 90 days no compete. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.K.o.S. Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) edit: DZ beat me to it Edited January 20, 2022 by S.K.o.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said: Walter's new gimmick is that he will refer to himself with a new Austrian first name every week before he officially becomes Viele Namen ("Many Names" in German) (checks the internet to make sure no Nazis were named Viele Namen) if that doesn't stick, then Gunther becomes Billy Gunther. Then they bring in another German speaker to be Bart Gunther in a German Cowboy team They probably can't go with the German translation of "Mr. Ass" since the name "Herr Ass" might displease some people in 2022 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 hours ago, D.Z said: His name is just Gunther. How the fuck is this better than WALTER? They could at least stylize it. GUNTHER. Not much better, but it's something. Or go with G.U.N.T.H.E.R. (German Underground Nazi That's Hitler's Existing Relative?) 3 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 43 minutes ago, Eivion said: Wonder if he got ridiculous money like Owens. I initially read that as "wonder if he will be ridiculed like Owens." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said: if that doesn't stick, then Gunther becomes Billy Gunther. Then they bring in another German speaker to be Bart Gunther in a German Cowboy team They probably can't go with the German translation of "Mr. Ass" since the name "Herr Ass" might displease some people in 2022 Just google Gunt and then look at Walter's waist on NXT 2.0. The Gunt flabs his way to Raw soon like Keith Lee did. The he will be getting a dancing gimmick while wearing a dress like Vito, then get released. Von Wagner takes over imperium. The end. Gtg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said: if that doesn't stick, then Gunther becomes Billy Gunther. Then they bring in another German speaker to be Bart Gunther in a German Cowboy team They probably can't go with the German translation of "Mr. Ass" since the name "Herr Ass" might displease some people in 2022 Or they could go with Gunther Gabel and have him dress like a circus performer and use the Liontamer for a finish. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said: How the fuck is this better than WALTER? They could at least stylize it. GUNTHER. Not much better, but it's something. Or go with G.U.N.T.H.E.R. (German Underground Nazi That's Hitler's Existing Relative?) Because its something they can own? I mean its not a better name, but I don't think its a much worse a name either. Its just feels so stupid because they have been calling him WALTER already for 3 years now, and there is no real change happening to the character that makes a name change sensible at this point. Edited January 20, 2022 by Eivion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Just now, JLowe said: Or they could go with Gunther Gabel and have him dress like a circus performer and use the Liontamer for a finish. the Barrel Roll senton seems like a solid finisher if they're gonna eventually push him as a fat boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Just now, Eivion said: Because its something they can own? I mean its not a better name, but I don't think its a much worse a name either. Its just feels because they have been calling him WALTER already for 3 years now, and there is no real change happening to the character that makes a name change sensible at this point. Great, that means that they can own a name better than Gunther, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said: Great, that means that they can own a name better than Gunther, too. Why do you hate the name Gunther? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 When I heard Gunther I thought of the Ding Dong Song guy. It isn't a tough name and this isn't some Boy Named Sue type shenanigans. It's a lame name so they can own the rights. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Eivion said: Why do you hate the name Gunther? Who said that I hate the name Gunther? I am at best ambivalent to it. But how lazy is this name change? That's rhetorical. It's super-lazy. I ended up watching a huge chunk of SummerSlam '90 last night because of the DRILL Sargent Slaughter promos posted here and a) it's not like a GREAT card or anything, but it's fun as hell and b) Kerry Von Erich is called the Texas Tornado, which is a lame name change that at least has some alliteration and gives you an idea of what the guy's personality and fighting style is like, theoretically. He wrestled Mr. Perfect, which is again dumb in the best pro wrestling ways. See how these names have at least a bit of thought and effort put into them? See how they support the gimmick? See how they're not just a non-descript first or last name, but a name that casual fans might actually remember? I can't believe that I wasted this many words on your question, but here we are because I'm avoiding work. Edited January 20, 2022 by SirSmellingtonofCascadia 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 When I think "Gunther", I think barista from Friends. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo Necro Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 If they make it all caps then it might work. Walter is a silly name but WALTER is awesome. Gunther silly. GUNTHER might work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Mister TV said: Also, the reason Sarge came back to the WWF was due to his GI JOE contract ending and Vince wanting to once again steal a headliner from Verne Gagne. also the heel ranks in the WWF were a bit thin for the Warrior run, Rick Rude was out of the WWF shortly after Slaughter came back. But yeah, we were denied a world where Slaughter reminded us that Hulk Hogan wore red and yellow, just like the commies, and that's why he's standing up for commie pinkos like Nikolai Volkoff. As for Gunther vs GUNTHER... if any company would insist that the all-caps spelling only be acknowledged if he was currently holding a title, it would be the WWE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 They held off on Warrior/Savage until after Warrior dropped the belt, which led to that awesome WM match which is the best example of catharsis that I can think of in pro wrestling, but which didn't help Warrior's run at all. I'm not sure that there were many good options, but Rude just was not at that level in 1990 and that feud had been done already. I don't think you can save the title reign of such a limited worker like Warrior, but Savage and Earthquake as opponents instead of Rude and being like, "feud with Demolition, I guess" might have made his run less of a flop. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarheel Moneghetti Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 This is funny. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Vince becoming more Mr. Burns like by the day. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) He must’ve saw that picture with Shawn, Hunter, and Road Dogg looking old as shit. If that’s the case, then please stop putting the staff on camera. Or better yet, put them on a strict dress code. The reason they look so bad is that they dress like they are out fishing on a boat in the Key’s. Edited January 20, 2022 by LoneWolf&Subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail Sabin Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, Swift said: Vince becoming more Mr. Burns like by the day. I can Imagine Vince building a Wrestlemania lineup like Mr Burns did his dream company softball team. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said: I'm not sure that there were many good options, but Rude just was not at that level in 1990 and that feud had been done already. here are the heels who were on the card at Wrestlemania 6 Rick Martel, Andre the Giant, Haku, Earthquake, Mr. Perfect, Bad News Brown, Nikolai Volkoff, Boris Zhukov, The Barbarian, Randy Savage, Sato, Pat Tanaka, Dino Bravo, Ted DiBiase, Akeem, and Rick Rude Or to sum up how they spent the rest of their 1990s: Moving up and feuded with Jake to begin 91, Finished in the WWF, Floundered for most of his remaining time in the WWF, Summer feud with Hogan, IC Champion after Warrior vacated the belt, Gone after Summerslam, Turned face, Shitty abandoned Russian gimmick, Inched up the ladder slightly, Feuded with Dusty Rhodes for his summer, Was mostly out of the WWF by the end of the year, Tag team guy, On his way towards the exit, Kinda floundered until he got a feud with Dusty to set up his feud with Virgil, Gone by October, and de-facto Summer program for the Warrior DiBiase got a match with Warrior in Japan early in the reign, which allegedly went over poorly with Japanese fans. But with that group of heels, you can figure out how new arrivals, returns, and turns caused some guys to soar up the ranks By Wrestlemania 7, the heels were: Haku, Barbarian, Dino Bravo, Warlord, Jerry Sags, Brian Knobbs, Rick Martel, The Undertaker, Randy Savage, Demolition Smash, Demolition Crush, Mr. Perfect, Earthquake, Paul Roma, Hercules, Ted DiBiase, The Mountie, and Sgt. Slaughter So the world wasn't really hungering for Ultimate Warrior vs Warlord matches, or a reprise of Warrior vs Hercules, and it took giving him Savage and Undertaker to give him some compelling programs, and then Jake turned too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 The truth is Vince has finally seen Charlie and The Chocolate Factory 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Wow he must’ve known. I joked about it, but I do believe he’ll get a weird chocolate loving German gimmick, and then carted off to Main Event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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