Matt D Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, (BP) said: Maybe to us because we’d get to speculate on what that means, but I don’t think it would get that person over. At best I’d assume they needed another guy on Lee’s level to job to the Nese’s and Garcia’s in competitive Dark main events. Edit: I used possessive apostrophes when I shouldn’t. My brain is dying and it’s fine. I guess the question is who are we dealing with that's not us. I want to liken this to me as a kid feeling differently about someone beating Jim Powers relative to Barry Hardy. But kids? Eh. Let's look at our pal @JLowewho is not super familiar with the intricacies of the product. He may not get Kazarian's whole deal, but he knows that Kazarian is signed and that he has a history and that he has theme music and a tron. It registers differently beating him than just some guy who is already in the ring when the match starts. And there's probably some difference in beating him than beating a Wheeler Yuta sort who's obviously young and learning. Moreover, they can book a longer match, a more intricate one, for the crowd. If Adam Cole gives too much offense to some jobber on Elevation, it makes him look worse. If he gave half the match to Kazarian, no one's going to question that and you can have a real Adam Cole match vs a squash. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Matt D said: I guess the question is who are we dealing with that's not us. I want to liken this to me as a kid feeling differently about someone beating Jim Powers relative to Barry Hardy. But kids? Eh. Let's look at our pal @JLowewho is not super familiar with the intricacies of the product. He may not get Kazarian's whole deal, but he knows that Kazarian is signed and that he has a history and that he has theme music and a tron. It registers differently beating him than just some guy who is already in the ring when the match starts. And there's probably some difference in beating him than beating a Wheeler Yuta sort who's obviously young and learning. Moreover, they can book a longer match, a more intricate one, for the crowd. If Adam Cole gives too much offense to some jobber on Elevation, it makes him look worse. If he gave half the match to Kazarian, no one's going to question that and you can have a real Adam Cole match vs a squash. It does help that I remember hearing about Kazarian on RSPW and DVDVR back when he was a young up-and-comer with Chris Daniels 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Thanks to this board, Danhausen showed up as a "friend suggestion" when I logged onto FB. And apparently, we have one mutual friend. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryArchieGus Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) It makes little to no sense complaining about a low card workhorse/teacher not having crediblity. The point of the Kazarian signing isn't to ready him at his excelled age for a title run or even a one on one feud. Kazarian's there to continue to help out backstage with the younger talent and when the time is right in ring to 'pass the torch' regularly. On top of that, his 'credibility' is he has good matches with capable partners - see the aforementioned Christian match and the one with Hangman, etc. I love Kazarian's generous contribution. I'm glad to see him continue to receive gainful employment. Edited January 27, 2022 by HarryArchieGus 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriskbrown50 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, (BP) said: Being a great wrestler doesn’t always overlap with being a great gatekeeper. I think JTTSs have to be people who were once extremely over and have lifelong equity or someone with a gimmick that makes them bulletproof. Frankie has some name value - the mid-card face spots who can work a longer match? You have the Varsity Blondes but they are still green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 hours ago, JLowe said: Thanks to this board, Danhausen showed up as a "friend suggestion" when I logged onto FB. And apparently, we have one mutual friend. Not Conan O'Brian?!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordi the former AEW fan Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) I think it's interesting to navel-gaze about "Do wins and losses really matter (to me)?" In some cases, like say Danielson vs Kenny, for me personally, "Who's gonna win this one?" becomes a big part of my anticipation and excitement. I buy into the nearfalls and pop several times and it makes it all cooler and more exciting. That's the best. I love when I get fooled by a 2.999... But it's not like I think the guy who wins is a "better" wrestler because they won. In a case like "seasoned veteran mid-card stalwart vs young up and comer" I guess there's a sense of "wondering if they will put the young guy over" but for the most part I'm just hoping for a good match. If Frankie Kazarian is in the ring, I am generally really confident that I am getting a good match. I joke about wanting to see Legit Leyla, JD Drake, and Bear Country run wild, win every match, and hold all the belts. But in fact their lower-card striver status is a big part of what I love about them. And, with Tay Conti as an example, we know that it's legit possible to climb the ladder from the YouTube shows to the main event in AEW. So that's exciting, but for me personally they can lose every "big" match and I'll still be stoked to see them. And Jeff Jarrett in TNA or HHH in, I dunno, 2004 WWE or whomever can win every important match and it actually makes me like them less. if Cody never lost, people would genuinely f'n despise him. His willingness to put other wrestlers over big is one of the best things about him as a professional wrestler. It's cool and to interesting to have a variety of opinions and takes. I'm genuinely surprised that so many people (here and elsewhere) seem to actually give two craps about who wins and who loses in the mid-card. I'd kind of assumed that we all cared more about seeing lots of good exciting matches, and that a good worker doesn't need to go over to stay over. Edited January 28, 2022 by Gordlow stupid sexy Flanders 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JLowe Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 26 minutes ago, AxB said: I was just thinking that she hadn’t been on TV or mentioned since the Baker loss. All of the AEW joshi peeps have been absent from TV lately. I assume most of it is people going home for holidays or end of tours/visas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Pain. She just came back, damn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Oh man. 12 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordi the former AEW fan Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, DEAN said: Oh man. The Meme Team 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 So am I alone in thinking that, when Danhausen's broken leg is fully healed and he's ready to get back in the ring, the match to make is Austin Gunn & Colten Gunn vs Danhausen & Billy Gunn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 58 minutes ago, AxB said: So am I alone in thinking that, when Danhausen's broken leg is fully healed and he's ready to get back in the ring, the match to make is Austin Gunn & Colten Gunn vs Danhausen & Billy Gunn? Hell yes! Bring on Ass Boys vs Asshausen! But the three Gunns must first wreack havoc together for a bit more! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Me too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Bones Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 10 hours ago, Shartnado said: Hell yes! Bring on Ass Boys vs Asshausen! But the three Gunns must first wreack havoc together for a bit more! And so… it begins. 2 5 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 l wish someone would roast me by writing me an entrance song that fucking slaps. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Gwarsenio Hall is playing all the guitar and bass parts on that rack. But the Drummer is the guy from God's Hate. Brody King's band. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Great Justice Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 That absolutely must be their new theme What a gifthausen 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Yeah....that's fucking awesome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 59 minutes ago, (BP) said: l wish someone would roast me by writing me an entrance song that fucking slaps. I forgot which thread I was in and thought we had undercover UNCLE KRACKER stans in here. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 I realize this isn't the point, at all, but the Gunn Club theme is really good. Especially at 1.5x speed, not that I'd ever have any reason to hear it on 1.5x speed. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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