Coletti Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Uma, Oprah, Uma, Oprah... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I would rather see Biff Busick working NJPW Strong. He seems like a perfect fit there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 10 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: Why do we drive on a parkway and park in a driveway? Why are goods transported by land called a shipment while goods transported by sea are called cargo? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordi the former AEW fan Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 "Henny Youngman is an old man, but Gary Oldman is a young man!" - Norm MacDonald 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 18 hours ago, Casey said: Nyla Rose has COVID That really, really sucks. I was hoping to see her back in her hometown but hope it won't be too long before they hit that area again. Heck, there was even a sign in the front showing her love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Craig H said: I would rather see Biff Busick working NJPW Strong. He seems like a perfect fit there. Would rather see him and Thatcher tame all the wild demons of NJPW myself...but yeah, NJ Strong seems like a natural fit for them. Them "ordinary" would be best to stick together at this point. Same for Gulak if he ever comes out of E-land. I think Danielson should wait on these guys if he ever does start a stable. I can see adding young Garcia to the mix but Garcia's got Judas written all over him (NOT A FOZZY REFERENCE). On a different topic, I have been wanting to do a deep dive on Brian Pillman, jr. ... I keep hearing people say he's best he's ever been but then others saying he just doesn't fit. Can anyone single out what his best matches have been? I think I've only seen him in tags with DBS, jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gordlow said: "Henny Youngman is an old man, but Gary Oldman is a young man!" - Norm MacDonald Daredevil is blind and uses sonar like a bat and Batman is an adrenaline junkie that flies experimental aircraft and fast vehicles, like a daredevil! And father time eventually took care of your example there, Gordlow. Edited January 20, 2022 by Shartnado Oldman is an old man, now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, Horatio said: I can see adding young Garcia to the mix but Garcia's got Judas written all over him (NOT A FOZZY REFERENCE). He really feels like the heir apparent to the American Dragon throne and should absolutely do a longterm mentorship under Dragon until he doesn't feel like he needs Danielson anymore. He's so fucking good technically and in terms of psychology. Danielson took years to get the character stuff down and even longer to get the promos. Garcia has the character work nailed imo but could use a lot of help with promos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, Horatio said: On a different topic, I have been wanting to do a deep dive on Brian Pillman, jr. ... I keep hearing people say he's best he's ever been but then others saying he just doesn't fit. I think someone can both be “the best they’ve ever been” and yet still “not very good.” Brian Pillman Jr is one such person. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhock Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, EVA said: I think someone can both be “the best they’ve ever been” and yet still “not very good.” Brian Pillman Jr is one such person. I feel that he moves too slowly; it's as if he's practicing/training while running the ropes rather than hitting them at full speed, except that's really his full speed? Does that make any sense? Edited January 20, 2022 by Hamhock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 My concern with Brian Pillman Jr. is that he's Brian Pillman Jr. I think he's a fine young man. Good head on his shoulders. But he's also Brian Pillman's son. When he was finally given the chance to get the mic in AEW, he was kind of like a deer in the headlights. I think he did fine as a worker in his big matchups, but he seemed uncertain and unsure of himself in his promos. His go-to move was raising his voice when he sounded lost. I'm worried that Pillman won't be able to step out of his father's shadow and find his own identity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, TheVileOne said: My concern with Brian Pillman Jr. is that he's Brian Pillman Jr. I think he's a fine young man. Good head on his shoulders. Ehhhhhhhhhh his social media presence would suggest otherwise. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 8 hours ago, Jiji said: Garcia has the character work nailed imo but could use a lot of help with promos. I actually think the opposite, I think. Garcia’s promos remind me a lot of Eddie Kingston, in that they’re not pro wrestling promos but a guy who could legit fuck someone up just talking. I like that. But his character work? If this was EWR, he’d have No Gimmick Needed or something, because… well, he doesn’t really have one. The same way he cuts his promos is exactly how his character is presented. No frills, nothing extra presented or added. Just a guy who can do everything he talks about. So maybe not the opposite of what you said, but I think for his experience, he’s doing quite well. Putting him with Danielson would go a long ways, actually. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, L_W_P said: If Pillman Jnr wasn't Pillman Jnr would he still be there? Same guy but his name is Gunner McGillabuddy and I think he's quietly let ago/replaced. Possible. Griff Garrison is still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 47 minutes ago, Casey said: I actually think the opposite, I think. Garcia’s promos remind me a lot of Eddie Kingston, in that they’re not pro wrestling promos but a guy who could legit fuck someone up just talking. I like that. But his character work? If this was EWR, he’d have No Gimmick Needed or something, because… well, he doesn’t really have one. The same way he cuts his promos is exactly how his character is presented. No frills, nothing extra presented or added. Just a guy who can do everything he talks about. So maybe not the opposite of what you said, but I think for his experience, he’s doing quite well. Putting him with Danielson would go a long ways, actually. His character isn't easy to describe but it's that of a young, brash man that wants his now. He knows how good he is, that he's way ahead of where he's supposed to be, but doesn't want to work his way up the ladder, hence attacking guys way above his paygrade like Punk and Kingston. He's able to remain calm when things go his way but snaps when they don't, hence the red mist part of red death. Was it the Kingston or Punk match where he tried to meditate for a few seconds after he could feel the match start slipping away from him? That kind of dedication and understanding of character work and storytelling of character within a match is really special and hard to come by among stars, much less a 23 year old neophyte. Hot headed, brash young man to tl;dr it. I love it and I think he would mesh with Dickhead Danielson perfectly. As for the promos, I think it's his delivery I mostly have issue with. He's so confident in his understanding of who he is but he seems to me a little put off when cutting promos. Like he's rehearsed it in the mirror and doesn't have confidence in what he's saying. Doesn't seem natural and that's okay. He's 23 and only been working since 2017. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Andrew Zarian says a pro-AEW WarnerMedia sales executive was really pissed about the WWE statement about "self-mutilation" comments in Toronto Star, seeing it as an attack on AEW/WarnerMedia advertisers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawful Metal Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I have questions about Sammy Guevara’s G.T.H. Finisher: 1) what does the “H” stand for? G.T.S. Stands for “Go To Sleep” so what’s the H for? I’m gonna assume it’s “Go To Houston.” Or hell. Same thing. 2) is there a proper way to do it? I’ve seen him hit the knee to the face, the chest, the top of the head (Miro), the back of the head (Garcia). Looks brutal just about every time, but it’s hard to get a read on how it’s supposed to look. 3) I guess that’s just something about Sammy. He always looks like he’s just this amount of out of control, but because he’s not Emo goth that aspect doesn’t get played up much. His 630 is not tight like Ricochet’s and looks like he doesn’t have much control over how or where he lands, for example the one he used to beat Miro. He hit a dive on Garcia last week where it looked like he decided to add a twist at the last second that resulted in double knees to Garcia’s head. His dive on Dustin at Battle of the Belts looked like he added a flip at the last second and almost completely missed him. He’s out of control and seems a little dangerous, but I guess that’s part of the act, even if they don’t play it up in the commentary? 4) And I think Sammy’s great! H-Town! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I believe Excalibur said it stands for "Go To Hell". As for a proper way I've seen it done those ways also but assume it's supposed to hit the forehead like Punk's GTS is supposed to. And yeah he can be a bit chaotic in how he does his moves which can be concerning if it does some damage to himself or his opponents. But he's also said at times that he has little disregard for his body so who knows if that's part of the gimmick or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 17 hours ago, Hamhock said: I feel that he moves too slowly; it's as if he's practicing/training while running the ropes rather than hitting them at full speed, except that's really his full speed? Does that make any sense? Yep. It's Luchasaurus' speed as well. Dude just sort of floats gingerly out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Pillman Jr. is a case where he's been given his shot. The guys has had many opportunities to step up, and in all of those cases, he's not shown he's got "it", IMO. He's passable in the ring, but any time he's had to do any "acting", it's been awful. He totally missed the mark with MJF insulting his family, and I don't know what the hell he was trying to with "uncertainty" on Wednesday. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryArchieGus Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Pillman’s a lame baby face (kinda so was his legendary father) but the little I saw of his MLW work, as a heel (the role that made his father legendary) showed a lot of promise. I agree he’s had an inability to rise to the level of his opportunities thus far, but he’s young and still green. Luckily this isn’t a promotion that cuts the water off on a potential star for not being quite ready. I’m still interested to see where he is in a year or six months. But yeah, he needs to retool some things. So too Griff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Bones Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I’m seeing both sides of this. I complimented his Makakai Black promo a couple of weeks ago. Because as cringy as that promo started out to be. He pushed it through so hard to get it sold. I had to respect the effort. I don’t think anyone can discount Pillman’s investment. But he is going to need a bit more spring in his heavy step if expects to succeed at his tribute act to his father. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Great Justice Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 26 minutes ago, Brandon Bones said: I’m seeing both sides of this. I complimented his Makakai Black promo a couple of weeks ago. Because as cringy as that promo started out to be. He pushed it through so hard to get it sold. I had to respect the effort. I don’t think anyone can discount Pillman’s investment. But he is going to need a bit more spring in his heavy step if expects to succeed at his tribute act to his father. Man, I dunno. When MJF was berating his family and he came out and smiled for the fans on the ramp for what felt like 5 minutes instead of just beating the dude’s ass, that was a degree of “not getting pro wrestling” that just seems like one of those things you either have or don’t. Maybe (hopefully) it’s just “not getting being a babyface”. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Brian senior was a bland babyface (who wasn't very good at promos), right up until he turned heel when he was 30. Brian Pillman jr is 28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo-Yo's Roomie Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Brian was an excellent babyface worker though, with some of the best fire of the 90's. I thought Pillman Jr was fine in MLW, but still clearly a work in progress who doesn't seem to have progressed at all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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