Leonidas Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 My new favourite game for Dark and Elevation is to count how many times: Jade Cargill flexes mid-match Red Velvet winks on her way to the ring Skye Blue sticks her tongue out on her way to the ring Don't turn it into a drinking game or you'll need your stomach pumped. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryArchieGus Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 How bout a new thread for these repetitive redundant Bucks criticisms? This guy has been working his unwanted hot takes for, what, 2 years now? Ha, I'm sick of having to sift thru this nonsense for my Dark recommendations/reviews. Or can we maybe get a monthly AEW Dark thread? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Leonidas said: Jade Cargill flexes mid-match She's filling up her Special bar so she can hit the Jaded and win the match. 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 10 hours ago, DEAN said: Tay Conti's German Suplex! The announcers winced at that, she dropped her on her head like this was All Japan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) AEW Dark (More like AEW Thunder) 1/11/22 Dean vs Cross: They can probably give Dean a mini push out of all of this. I like the idea that Dean can win a match with just a Superfly Splash in 2021. No tucked knees, no rotations, no nothing. Cross doesn't have a great look but I liked some small things he did in there like how he went down low to reverse the irish whip. They should use him more as an enhancement guy. Ogogo vs Black: Black's time to shine. I liked how thoroughly Ogogo paid for pulling him up and the diversity and imagination in the arm-based offense. It would have been nice for Ogogo to sell it a bit more when he got back on offense. Maybe struggle a bit more to get the Tower of London on. They need to figure out how to film that fireman's carry/chokeslam a bit better. Something seems off about it as it is. I like Ogogo picking up more moves while still not dropping the boxing thing. We're not entirely looking at Kurt Angle in 2000 never mat wrestling here. Red Velvet vs Royal: Too short. Needed more singing spots from Royal. That's the next step for her. It's not enough for her to have reaction moments where she does it but she needs to actively work it into spots. Like an abdominal stretch where she torques it more and keeps getting higher and higher with her notes or something. Final Slice remains the best version of the move ever, to the point where they didn't just not cut away from it but showed it from multiple angles afterwards. Gunn Club vs Kross, T.I.M., Scott: I'm annoyed I wrote the periods out for TIM. This was a minute of antics with Boomer Billy Gunn seemingly loving the nickname for his kids way more than they do. I'm kind of curious if this is going somewhere or just to get some heat. I don't love the Billy stuff with Audrey. I know they work closely together and have fun but it stands out when no one else messes with her like that (she's presented as a referee first and whatever else second as she should be) and it's the 58 year old that does so. Garcia's promos are good for the same reason his wrestling is good, because he presents himself clearly and directly as his character. Tay/Jay vs Renegades: I feel like there was a crazy German I forgot to mention on Elevation too, with that same sort of angled side drop. It didn't look all that great, but I liked the idea of the stereo stuff from Tay/Jay. They'll get there with a few more reps of it and it'll be fun and very over. Cassidy vs Drake: Very good match. Drake is a guy who can both give in to Cassidy's mind games without losing everything but also put him down with one big shot. The lucha ninjas were weird but we'll see where that goes during the year. They were used well to set up moments of vulnerability for Cassidy. I love how much mileage they got out of a bodyslam. I'm on the verge of telling Eric that he and I should just C+A Drake's last couple of years for Segunda Caida. Martin vs Solo: This ended a little abruptly with me. I sort of agree that the nosedive shouldn't be his finish, but less because he hits it too spectacularly and more because it's just a standing moonsault and there's probably something more impressive and impactful seeming that he and only he on the roster can hit (safely). We'll see what happens in 2022, if he's used more as a tag guy with his brother or Lio. In that setting it's fine, but if he's getting a singles push, I feel like he needs something else. Match itself was fine. Solo is there to base and make the other guy look good and he was fine at that here. Kingston vs Janela: Battered Eddie is probably the best Eddie and Janela knew what he had here. Which isn't to say he didn't take some big stuff from Eddie as you might expect. I like how Kingston can basically use any move from 90s Japan wrestling as a finisher: Kong's backfist, Kawada's Stretch Plum, Hokuto's Northern Lights Bomb. Etc. Nice use of Rossi throughout. I'll have to rewatch this for Monday. Rosa vs Fox: Not a lot to say here but Rosa's dropkick to someone's gut while they're in the ropes is one of those moves that I'm not sure how she can get to look so good without killing the person. Hobbs vs Moss: Moss? Mud is more like it. Garcia vs Fuego: A your move/my move type match that actually worked. Some of that was because Garcia was constantly pressing forward and they worked in smart counters by Fuego. Quick switches but always in reaction to something so that it never quite felt like just "spots." Great presence and being in the moment by Garcia in the post match where he could see Sammy rushing in (upside-down) because of how he was wrenching the sharpshooter and he reacted accordingly. Of all of the "Toss into the corner/ropes suplexes, Garcia's double underhook is up there. I don't necessarily think these are being done too much because it's more of a technique thing. Someone found something that worked and everyone's trying it, but I still don't want to see it every match. Cargill vs Blue: Good showing. These two have wrestled before. Probably the lowest gap in days between real matches for Cargill. The early strength stuff worked well. The finish was very good and quite smooth. These are the sort of matches that Jade needs. More two minute matches than one minute ones, I guess? Work her way up to those four minute ones? I don't know. Express vs Factory: Wasn't really feeling this one. I didn't love the structure where they treated Comoroto vs Luchasaurus as something special at the end but they had given away too much of it during the match and hadn't protected Comoroto enough. The heat on Jungle Boy was ok. I like how he tries to sneak shots in to fight back. The tag during the dive was pretty spectacular but the match had already broken down by then and once that happens, it's hard to pull it back and probably not even worth trying. I wouldn't say this bodes well for their title run being much better than the Lucha Bros'. HF(Serpentic)O vs Dark Order/Page: Serpentico is maybe my favorite guy on the roster. So many entertaining moments in this one. the poetry in motion goof, the leaping off the top rope with everyone walking away at the end. The chop goofs on Vance and then Page. The slam of him onto Kassidy as he was getting back that just looked nuts. Him making Vance look better than I've ever seen him on those early suplexes. The big transition when he gave the middle finger and ran around the ring. I didn't think they maximized the moments all the time on things like the hot tag. The fans were clapping up. Angels should have waited another second or two. I would have liked a slightly longer second FIP on Vance too, even if I liked the comeback a lot. Most of what Page does is good and he carries himself like a star relatively, but some things, like having a guy up in power bomb position and flipping him over to hit a forearm (where it's obvious he's in control and it's not a counter being blocked) is dumb. Otherwise, this was an enjoyable six man that got time without having to worry about a commercial break. The heel side did a great job of just really always being at the right place at the right time. I enjoyed this. Edited January 12, 2022 by Matt D 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 28 minutes ago, HarryArchieGus said: How bout a new thread for these repetitive redundant Bucks criticisms? This guy has been working his unwanted hot takes for, what, 2 years now? Ha, I'm sick of having to sift thru this nonsense for my Dark recommendations/reviews. Or can we maybe get a monthly AEW Dark thread? I've been considering a similar topic for the Youtube shows. It could cover Dark, Elevation and the vlogs like BTE. Not sure if that's worth doing but if there's enough interest I can create one. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, NikoBaltimore said: I've been considering a similar topic for the Youtube shows. It could cover Dark, Elevation and the vlogs like BTE. Not sure if that's worth doing but if there's enough interest I can create one. We have topics for Dynamite, Rampage so sounds good to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Watched Elevation and Dark through the JE/Factory match last night. It was cool to get double doses of Dante Martin (and yeah, he needs to start hitting that finisher farther from the ropes), Skye Blue, and then Hobbs squashing fools (the first guy who looked and posed like he was a 1940s babyface was awesome). The JD Drake/OC match was a highlight for sure, but I didn't actually think that was Avalon and Bononi under the masks and was expecting a SWERVE, probably because I have been reading Dolfan's Wrestlemania lockdown thread. The announcers were really putting over Bowens, and I'm ready for The Acclaimed to get their title run (as was said earlier, this was also probably Caster's best rap not just lyrically but he also really hit a flow). Finally, Kingston and Janela was a stiff brawl. At this point, Elevation is like a really good WCW Worldwide (my favorite syndicated show) and the last couple of Darks have been excellent WCWSN shows. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 15 hours ago, Octopus said: Also, Geese. They looks like dorky birds but are honestly one of the most terrifying animals there is. 15 hours ago, Stefanie the Human said: Yes! This! A goose once hissed at me while I was walking back to my car, and I was baffled because I had no idea geese could hiss. I sure sped up how fast I was walking though, because I wasn't about to trifle with a hissing goose. 11 hours ago, Craig H said: Geese are assholes. Yeah, some geese once hissed at my Dad and our first family dog, Tess. Geese suck. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Regarding Tay, I don't know, I thought that cutter looked worse than that suplex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, NikoBaltimore said: I've been considering a similar topic for the Youtube shows. It could cover Dark, Elevation and the vlogs like BTE. Not sure if that's worth doing but if there's enough interest I can create one. Yeah going forward I would love a weekly thread for the YT shows. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Found it funny how Taz on commentary took great delight in saying CM Punk is now the second biggest merchandise seller and he can say what he wants because JR was coming back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 I just think we need a thread called Wrestling Personalities You Just Don't Like. In this thread, we can air our grievances, get it off our chests, and nobody is allowed to disagree. @The Naturalcan talk about Hulk Hogan, I can bring up Jim Ross and Cody, @just drew can say his piece about the Bucks, etc. etc. and then we can move on. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Well done, Peter. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 34 minutes ago, JLowe said: The announcers winced at that, she dropped her on her head like this was All Japan. Tay and WWE were the worst possible fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Here ya go. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 22 minutes ago, alstein said: Tay and WWE were the worst possible fit. I don't watch WWE/NXT and haven't for 15 years or more, so my guess would be they had her dress like a Carnaval dancer and giving people the Stinkface. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 idbuythatforadollar.gif 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) Thankfully that wasn't what happened (thought the thought of it made me have to settle down) She started out wearing a gi and lost more times than she won. Towards the end she went heel and showed lots more personality so who knows what would have happened if she was there longer. Edited January 12, 2022 by NikoBaltimore 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krone Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, NikoBaltimore said: I've been considering a similar topic for the Youtube shows. It could cover Dark, Elevation and the vlogs like BTE. Not sure if that's worth doing but if there's enough interest I can create one. I personally like that and think it's a great idea. They have enough content spread throughout YouTube that I think a topic of its own is viable. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Krone Meltzer said: I personally like that and think it's a great idea. They have enough content spread throughout YouTube that I think a topic of its own is viable. That's a great point that I was about to make as well - we could make it a YouTube catch all and cover Road To... and BTE there too Edited January 12, 2022 by Zakk_Sabbath Also things like the women's tag tournament from Japan if they ever do anything like that again 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, NikoBaltimore said: Thankfully that wasn't what happened (thought the though of it made me have to settle down) She started out wearing a gi and lost more times than she won. Towards the end she went heel and showed lots more personality so who knows what would have happened if she was there longer. I think Anna Jay's pants are actually tinier. Also, I just can't visualize Tay as a heel, she's not bubbly but she exudes a positive vibe. TayJay to me are one of the biggest arguments for having a Women's tag title. I like them both as singles wrestlers but I think right now they get over best as a tag team (and the street fight sealed that). Them doing dual QueenSlayers on the twins was a nice touch. Which reminds me that Nyla and Emi were also awesome as a tag team this week. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 In other news: Tony Schiavone signed an extension to stay until 2024. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Technico Support said: We have a park with a big lake about a block away and those geese hiss at us like a motherfucker. All I can do is think about escape plans or whether I could just punt those fuckers if they decide to attack. The neighborhood where I grew up as a kid had a section with a bunch of ponds where all the rich folks lived. Canadian Geese migrated there every year and they shit EVERYWHERE. The roads were covered in green. Ironic, you ask me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Casey said: In other news: Tony Schiavone signed an extension to stay until 2024. One of the best things to come from AEW's creation. I underappreciated Tony Schiavone. I think that came from the repetitive "Greatest night in the sport's history" and near the end of WCW. Edited January 12, 2022 by The Natural 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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